Novak Djokovic not to win another grand slam

[shadymcgrady]

How would Agassi have fared against the big 3 in their primes?

[Thrilla]

Everytime Djokovic is trailing he gets saved by a fukking rain delay. So lucky

[homie1975]

How would Agassi have fared against the big 3 in their primes?

Not very well imo. He had a nice overall game off both wings but not a great server but a great returner. I think the big 3 are all a little bit like agassi except better servers and better off both wings. They all do everything better than he did.

[navyblue81]

Nadal going to have big advantage in terms of fresh legs. As if Nadal needs any more advantage.

This is a great match, though. Could truly go either way.

[MrSink]

great match

[homie1975]

can't wait djokovic to smoke nadul in final

Umm no. Joker sit the phukk down.

Slam counts:

Fed 20
Rafa 17 and counting

Joker 15

[gaebiskon]

You could argue Nadal has a better record vs Federer in non-clay results when both players were in their prime including that classic win at Wimbledon when I thought both players were at their absolute highest.

Federer won a lot of early matches against Nadal when Rafa was young and in the last few years when Nadal has lost it more. But in those middle years, Nadal had the upper hand.

Like I’ve said before, in their primes, I think Nadal was the better player. However career-wise, Fed still has the edge. Nadal needs a few more non-French majors.

Exactly, also consider the fact nadal had to play 3 days straight prior to 2007 wimbledon final.
He very well could have won that match if not for a fukked up schedule.

[homie1975]

Exactly, also consider the fact nadal had to play 3 days straight prior to 2007 wimbledon final.
He very well could have won that match if not for a fukked up schedule.

everyone on this site knows by now that I love RAFA. he should have been able to regroup mentally and physically for that 07 final vs Fed despite the scheduling. He was only 21 and if you recall in the 2009 aussie open he played a 5 setter v Verdasco deep into the melbourne night and then only 1.5 days later came back and beat Fed in the final.

in 07, i think Fed was simply the superior player on grass as Rafa had not honed his non-clay game well enough at that point. it was still a 5 setter though, that 07 wimby final. man those were the days.

[europe_baller]

Umm no. Joker sit the phukk down.

Slam counts:

Fed 20
Rafa 17 and counting

Joker 15

Joker 15 and counting.... Rafa did his part on RG.. lets see what Joker has for the end of the season...still very impressed with all 3 of them..insane..we should enjoy while they play...

[navyblue81]

Joker 15 and counting.... Rafa did his part on RG.. lets see what Joker has for the end of the season...still very impressed with all 3 of them..insane..we should enjoy while they play...

I think Joker will win last two. At least I hope so. That will set some drama for next year with the numbers at 20-18-17. Tsitsipas could be the spoiler in it all, though. He’s on the verge of breaking out and think he will next season.

[homie1975]

Joker 15 and counting.... Rafa did his part on RG.. lets see what Joker has for the end of the season...still very impressed with all 3 of them..insane..we should enjoy while they play...

Yes. enjoy every slam match at the very least because the end will get here and it will happen very fast, just like a boxer, they will wake up one day and it will be gone.

[navyblue81]

Yes. enjoy every slam match at the very least because the end will get here and it will happen very fast, just like a boxer, they will wake up one day and it will be gone.

Yup, and we will never see anything like it again. We're lucky these guys have lasted as long as they have. They're going longer than most generations do. To have a rivalry last like this for over 10 years with guys staying pretty close to their prime for so long is incredible. And they still probably have 2-3 good years left in them, most likely. After that, it's going to be hard to be as into tennis.

[homie1975]

Yup, and we will never see anything like it again. We're lucky these guys have lasted as long as they have. They're going longer than most generations do. To have a rivalry last like this for over 10 years with guys staying pretty close to their prime for so long is incredible. And they still probably have 2-3 good years left in them, most likely. After that, it's going to be hard to be as into tennis.

maybe in 100 years but not in our lifetime. very true. let's enjoy every moment. Wimbledon starts in 20 days on Monday 7/1. Look forward to talking to you about the matches!!

[homie1975]

Hubert Hurkacz takes set 2 off Joker

[sunshineSpecial]

Hubert Hurkacz takes set 2 off Joker

In spectacular fashion.

[homie1975]

In spectacular fashion.

he probably woke Joker up now LOL

[navyblue81]

Djokovic turned on the switch. That's the thing with the greats like Novak, Roger, and Rafa. They can just turn it up a notch when they want. Little harder for Roger now past his prime. Anxious to see Novak and Auger-Aliassame next round should Auger win.

[homie1975]

Auger getting run out right now

[navyblue81]

Auger getting run out right now

I watched him against Feliciano Lopez a couple weeks ago because I heard a lot of hype on him. I didn't come away that impressed. He's talented for sure for an 18-year old, but still has a long way to go to get to the elite level. I remember watching Fed and Rafa when they were 19 and you saw greatness coming. I don't get that vibe yet from this kid. But I stress "yet".

[Grivas_Digeni]

I watched him against Feliciano Lopez a couple weeks ago because I heard a lot of hype on him. I didn't come away that impressed. He's talented for sure for an 18-year old, but still has a long way to go to get to the elite level. I remember watching Fed and Rafa when they were 19 and you saw greatness coming. I don't get that vibe yet from this kid. But I stress "yet".

You are pretty good talking about matches/players after the fact. Would make a solid TV talking head host.

[navyblue81]

You are pretty good talking about matches/players after the fact. Would make a solid TV talking head host.

Huh? Didn’t say anything about betting him. Just said I watched him and he’s got a ways to go yet. What’s wrong with saying that?

[homie1975]

Joker is going to flatten Goffin like a pancake in the quarters

[homie1975]

Fed 20
Rafa 18
Nola 16

I was wrong. Nola came back stronger than i thought he could from injury plus my expectation of some of the young guns making a big move up to challenge him was dead wrong.

[pavyracer]

Best thread ever.

[2daBank]

Joker is gonna go down as one of if not the best when it all said and done. He walking down Rafa and feds slams!!

[SamsNCharge99]

Best thread ever.

Agreed

[homie1975]

Joker is gonna go down as one of if not the best when it all said and done. He walking down Rafa and feds slams!!

He's already top 3 ever in slams and ability and only gaining on fed and rafa

I was wrong. I thought he'd finish lower than 16. He's too good. And outside the
Top 3 it's really bad

[shadymcgrady]

Nole alrdy better than Rafa

[navyblue81]

Today was a big match. And Federer had two match points to supplant himself as the greatest ever. Instead the door is open now. Gotta figure Djoker will get to 18 with the next two being on hardcourt, his best surface. Then going to French it could be 20-18-18.

That’s why you heard McEnroe say when Fed was serving for match this is the biggest game of his life. Because it was to truly establish himself as GOAT

[homie1975]

Nole alrdy better than Rafa

Opinion.

[lonegambler23]

Opinion.

youre delusional and a huge rafa homer if u think hes better than nole. im sure u didnt even turn on the match today since your boyfriend didnt play

[Mike Huntertz]

Amazing final.

[Cuse0323]

Today was a big match. And Federer had two match points to supplant himself as the greatest ever. Instead the door is open now. Gotta figure Djoker will get to 18 with the next two being on hardcourt, his best surface. Then going to French it could be 20-18-18.

That’s why you heard McEnroe say when Fed was serving for match this is the biggest game of his life. Because it was to truly establish himself as GOAT

Just crazy that he blows that. Gotta figure 90 percent of the time, he wins it there. Just that 1 out of 10 happened to occur. As a Fed fan, this one hurts. He really did need this to be GOAT. He will always be the GOAT to me, but for people not so fond of him, this gives them more ammo. Golden opportunity burnt to pieces.

[homie1975]

youre delusional and a huge rafa homer if u think hes better than nole. im sure u didnt even turn on the match today since your boyfriend didnt play

i watched. Joker a tremendous player. the only real measurement you can use is H2H and grand slams titles, IMO

Joker holds a 28-26 advantage H2H

Rafa hold a 18-16 advantage in Grand Slam titles.

to say definitively that Joker is a better player, is opinion. RIGHT NOW he is better, but Rafa hit his prime at a much earlier age than Joker did.

history will tell us who was/is better, but to say either way right now, is shortsighted.

anyhow.......

tremendous match played yday and Joker is one heckuva tough competitor and talented player.

[2daBank]

i watched. Joker a tremendous player. the only real measurement you can use is H2H and grand slams titles, IMO

Joker holds a 28-26 advantage H2H

Rafa hold a 18-16 advantage in Grand Slam titles.

to say definitively that Joker is a better player, is opinion. RIGHT NOW he is better, but Rafa hit his prime at a much earlier age than Joker did.

history will tell us who was/is better, but to say either way right now, is shortsighted.

anyhow.......

tremendous match played yday and Joker is one heckuva tough competitor and talented player.

Take away clay (as I tend to do) and it not even close.