Novak Djokovic not to win another grand slam

homie1975 · 02-18-21, 12:12 AM

Originally posted by Conqueror

Muchova did something similar to Barty. Took a 10-minute break for no specific injury or pain and came back to win the match.

Gamesmanship.

When Tito Trinidad was in trouble in a fight back in the day, he'd hit a dude in the nuts to buy some time.

Novak does this figuratively when he takes injury tineouts.

It changes momentum.

Conqueror · 02-18-21, 12:20 AM

Originally posted by homie1975

Gamesmanship.

When Tito Trinidad was in trouble in a fight back in the day, he'd hit a dude in the nuts to buy some time.

Novak does this figuratively when he takes injury tineouts.

It changes momentum.

Exactly!

homie1975 · 02-18-21, 01:37 AM

Originally posted by Conqueror

Exactly!

Novak is a prikk. But he's a helluva tennis player. I'll give him that.

SamsNCharge99 · 02-18-21, 08:04 AM

rooting for med or tsitsipas to beat Joker, but won't be mad if he wins

beefcake · 02-18-21, 08:07 AM

Joker seems to try really too hard to be liked but it backfires and hes a prick.Nadal just grinds and is respectful and then waits for the results.Fed is just all class plain and simple.

SamsNCharge99 · 02-18-21, 08:12 AM

joker mad he's not respected as much as nadal/fed 100%

jjgold · 02-18-21, 08:24 AM

It will be tough whoever he plays

The young guys are real good and ready

Joker much more of a killer than Fed why some do not like him

homie1975 · 02-18-21, 12:16 PM

Originally posted by beefcake

Joker seems to try really too hard to be liked but it backfires and hes a prick.Nadal just grinds and is respectful and then waits for the results.Fed is just all class plain and simple.

agree 1000% with what you said about all three.

homie1975 · 02-18-21, 12:16 PM

Originally posted by SamsNCharge99

joker mad he's not respected as much as nadal/fed 100%

very true.

UncleChael · 02-18-21, 01:11 PM

When does the Joker play?

Thrilla · 02-18-21, 02:05 PM

Nadal out. Huge setback for homie. Djokovic closing in.

Thrilla · 02-18-21, 02:07 PM

Nadal comforting homie1975

It's OK homie...It's OK.

homie1975 · 02-18-21, 02:07 PM

Originally posted by UncleChael

When does the Joker play?

Sun at 1230 am PT / 330 am ET USA

which is 730 pm Sunday evening in Melbourne

homie1975 · 02-18-21, 02:08 PM

Originally posted by Thrilla

Nadal out. Huge setback for homie. Djokovic closing in.

Yup The Joker will be at #18 after Sunday unless The Russian or The Greek can step up big.

homie1975 · 02-18-21, 02:08 PM

Originally posted by Thrilla

Nadal comforting homie1975

It's OK homie...It's OK.

WireWire · 02-18-21, 03:25 PM

Originally posted by homie1975

Yup The Joker will be at #18 after Sunday unless The Russian or The Greek can step up big.

You really think Joker can walk thru Med? I don't, in fact i think Med is the best player in the world as of right now, going to be a good finals either way.

slayer14 · 02-18-21, 05:07 PM

Djokovic ruined homie life

slayer14 · 02-18-21, 05:08 PM

I would not trust Med in a final Russians are known for choking in sporting events

homie1975 · 02-18-21, 05:51 PM

Originally posted by WireWire

You really think Joker can walk thru Med? I don't, in fact i think Med is the best player in the world as of right now, going to be a good finals either way.

I didn't say he'd walk through Med or Tsit but either guy will have to step up big to win a best of 5 at this venue as Joker. The court is playing very fast which plays right into Jokers strength. He'll also have one full day of extra rest on his finals opponent.

WireWire · 02-19-21, 01:42 AM

Either way going to be a good finals, i truly believe Med has passed Joker as the best player in the world and we are going to see that in tournament if he gets by Tsit, I think were going to see Med win 3 or 4 majors over the next 3 years, I think we got a glimps in the Finals last year when Med won handily over Joker 2-0, Now the French Open is Nadals for at least the next few years, though i think his game has fallen of quite a bit on hard court obv he is still a top 4 player on earth still.

msutter · 02-19-21, 02:29 AM

Originally posted by WireWire

Either way going to be a good finals, i truly believe Med has passed Joker as the best player in the world and we are going to see that in tournament if he gets by Tsit, I think were going to see Med win 3 or 4 majors over the next 3 years, I think we got a glimps in the Finals last year when Med won handily over Joker 2-0, Now the French Open is Nadals for at least the next few years, though i think his game has fallen of quite a bit on hard court obv he is still a top 4 player on earth still.

I love Med as well, but you're definitely jumping the gun here. Med doesn't even have a Grand Slam title yet. Djoker just recently put on some muscle and is getting way more aces than he ever used to. Going to have over 100 aces just in this tournament

WireWire · 02-19-21, 02:38 AM

Originally posted by msutter

I love Med as well, but you're definitely jumping the gun here. Med doesn't even have a Grand Slam title yet. Djoker just recently put on some muscle and is getting way more aces than he ever used to. Going to have over 100 aces just in this tournament

Gotta start somewhere, I don't think i am, we will be seeing Med in more finals in majors than Nadal moving forward, besides on clay obv. Med style is a problem for anyone to deal with, now the extra mph on jokers serve is good there are a ton of huge servers, Med is long and rangy and covers the court as well as anyone. I think we will be seeing a ton of Med vs Joker finals in the future, the head and shoulders top 2 players in the world as of right now. Could i be wrong of course.

msutter · 02-19-21, 02:45 AM

Originally posted by WireWire

Gotta start somewhere, I don't think i am, we will be seeing Med in more finals in majors than Nadal moving forward, besides on clay obv. Med style is a problem for anyone to deal with, now the extra mph on jokers serve is good there are a ton of huge servers, Med is long and rangy and covers the court as well as anyone. I think we will be seeing a ton of Med vs Joker finals in the future, the head and shoulders top 2 players in the world as of right now. Could i be wrong of course.

I agree that they're the top two players in the world right now. Just think it's going to be another couple years before Med overtakes Djoker. Like you said it will be great matchups between these two for years to come. Djoker is going to surpass Fed and Rafa in Slams eventually

WireWire · 02-19-21, 02:50 AM

Originally posted by msutter

I agree that they're the top two players in the world right now. Just think it's going to be another couple years before Med overtakes Djoker. Like you said it will be great matchups between these two for years to come. Djoker is going to surpass Fed and Rafa in Slams eventually

I agree, Joker will eventually pass them, Don't think Fed can ever win another one, Nadal may have 1 or 2 more French Opens titles left in him. Joker is just another level above both of them now can't see that changing....father time has only lost once to Tom Brady.

msutter · 02-19-21, 02:54 AM

Originally posted by WireWire

I agree, Joker will eventually pass them, Don't think Fed can ever win another one, Nadal may have 1 or 2 more French Opens titles left in him. Joker is just another level above both of them now can't see that changing....father time has only lost once to Tom Brady.

There's always an exception to the rule

Steamroller · 02-19-21, 05:48 AM

Djokovic is the GOAT for sure. Winning record against both Fed and Nadal. I think his career achievements are more impressive. More masters titles, Nadal has 0 atp world tour finals titles while Djokovic has 5. Djokovic 307 weeks as #1, Nadal 209 weeks. Djokovic 6 times year-end #1, Nadal 5 times.

Djokovic–Nadal rivalry - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Djokovic%E2%80%93Nadal_rivalry

beefcake · 02-19-21, 06:47 AM

Joker and Med is going to be good!!

jjgold · 02-19-21, 06:55 AM

A win tomorrow could make Joker the greatest player of all times

He is playing a big time stud

slayer14 · 02-19-21, 07:24 AM

I don't know if Medevev can pull off this final win

slayer14 · 02-19-21, 07:37 AM

It's even money the pair kind of shocked by the odds you would think Novak would be fav

homie1975 · 02-19-21, 09:11 AM

Originally posted by slayer14

It's even money the pair kind of shocked by the odds you would think Novak would be fav

cannot be. please post the odds from sportsbook screengrab if you can. no odds that i can find here on SBR.

even odds would be shocking. JOKER has to be the fave here, even if only -120.

homie1975 · 02-19-21, 09:34 AM

i tried to copy in odds but it did not format properly.

Joker ranges from -108 up to -120 at different books.

slayer14 · 02-19-21, 09:56 AM

Betfair 10/11 the pair

SamsNCharge99 · 02-19-21, 10:46 AM

2 years ago everyone though nadal would beat joker in aussie finals. Joker won 3-0

this time around people think Medvedev will take out Joker.....myself included

we shall see

homie1975 · 02-19-21, 11:59 AM

Originally posted by SamsNCharge99

2 years ago everyone though nadal would beat joker in aussie finals. Joker won 3-0

this time around people think Medvedev will take out Joker.....myself included

we shall see

sammy who is everyone? not me. i don't recall the last time i picked Rafa over The Joker on a grass or hardcourt. i know better. French? i have CRUSHED my bets on Rafa v Fed and Rafa v Joker. UNDEFEATED over the years, something like 8-0 or 9-0 on my bets.

Aussie, Wimby, US Open -- i am VERY careful picking against The Joker even when it is my boy Rafa playing him.

it's about being objective. I am not touching this Final but if I did i would BET JOKER.