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    jjgold
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    Is Pinnacle Mainly An Arbing/Layoff Book????

    To fill rollover requirements and of course Arb???

    Are they actually one sided players there????

    Other books to dump money into to balance books??

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    Gold go ask your bushes/shrubs for winners pal.

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    Nah pinny was made on decisions and astronomical volume from asian clientele

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    Pinnacle is the only book you need. Instant payments. High limits.

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    Is it safe to say they are the best? just looking at the sbr ranking's thats what I'm gathering. someone convince me why

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    No.

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    put aside all of the mystery & magic attributed to Pinny they would be my ONLY book if I was reduced to just one

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    Agreed... Everyone says how hard it is to beat Pinny -- Yes, because it has the highest liquidity. But that also means the highest limits and lowest juice possible.

    It's very useful for arbing, hedging, completing rollover, etc. but it would also be my only book if I had to choose one.

    If you rely solely on bonus whoring, scalping, slow line movements, middling, hedging, arbing, reverse line movements, sniping, etc. then you will eventually run out of places to play and ways to win.

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    If I had to choose one book I'd pick SIA, if I could chose two SIA + Bodog. If three SIA + Bodog + Bet365, if 4 SIA + Bodog + Bet365 + William Hill... somewhere around choosing just 30 I'd go with Pinnacle. Now of course because in imaginary land (because no one need to choose just one book) I'd say I'd decide to have them all give me massive limits, but while conjuring something up I'll just take the genie with unlimited wishes instead and at that point would just stop betting.
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    Pinnacle doesn't have as many betting options. That's what I don't like about it. Great book tho.

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    I can only imagine what it would be like to have Pinnacle in my arsenal of books. Gold, you think Pinnacle would ever bring back U.S. clients?

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    I can't recall making a significant gameday pinny wager on a high liquidity american sport. Pinny is for openers.

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    Stevenx never

    Laws to strict

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    Quote Originally Posted by prop View Post
    If I had to choose one book I'd pick SIA, if I could chose two SIA + Bodog. If three SIA + Bodog + Bet365, if 4 SIA + Bodog + Bet365 + William Hill... somewhere around choosing just 30 I'd go with Pinnacle. Now of course because in imaginary land (because no one need to choose just one book) I'd say I'd decide to have them all give me massive limits, but while conjuring something up I'll just take the genie with unlimited wishes instead and at that point would just stop betting.


    lol, you get the best price and greater limits at Pinny.... but they wouldn't even be in your top 10?


    yeah, let me get down at a different book where it costs more and I'll get less back.. and I can bet less.


    gimme a break

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    80% of the time pinny was the best price so 80% of the time i make my business there.
    They are getting bigger and better every year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prop View Post
    If I had to choose one book I'd pick SIA, if I could chose two SIA + Bodog. If three SIA + Bodog + Bet365, if 4 SIA + Bodog + Bet365 + William Hill... somewhere around choosing just 30 I'd go with Pinnacle. Now of course because in imaginary land (because no one need to choose just one book) I'd say I'd decide to have them all give me massive limits, but while conjuring something up I'll just take the genie with unlimited wishes instead and at that point would just stop betting.
    if you had to chose two bookies you chose SIA and Bodog , dont mean to ofend but are you on drugs

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    SIA is good for Dogs that is why guys like them

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    they are also good at stealing peoples money (sia that is)

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    I would tend to believe that tennis guy. Can't remember his name. Always playing poker. Used to say he takes out 6k, 4k, 3k a month from Pinny.

    He was believable. Can't remember his name.

    Hewitt?

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    I know very few guys betting one side at Pinny and beating them

    Talk to me

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    fukk, JJ, can't remember his name

    Hewitt? Hewlen? Hawson?

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    I never find the best odds on the sides I bet at Pinnacle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardedTaco View Post
    I can't recall making a significant gameday pinny wager on a high liquidity american sport. Pinny is for openers.
    On "anti-steam" type plays, Pinnacle is good too, because of their low margin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    I know very few guys betting one side at Pinny and beating them

    Talk to me

    I did it for a long while... hit an evenly long patch of breaking even though... but I'm definitely up lifetime at Pinny -- maybe 4 or 5k.

    I'm done with that though, I'm learning how the big boys do it now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    SIA is good for Dogs that is why guys like them
    May 1, 20121:31 PM Single Bet
    • Philadelphia at Chicago (Moneyline)Philadelphia+260Open
    100.00
    Possible Payout: 360.00
    May 1, 20121:31 PM Single Bet
    • Philadelphia at ChicagoPhiladelphia +7-110Open
    100.00
    Possible Payout: 190.91
    May 1, 20121:31 PM Single Bet
    • Boston at Atlanta (Moneyline)Boston+190Open
    150.00
    Possible Payout: 435.00
    May 1, 20121:39 PM Single Bet
    • Boston at AtlantaBoston +5-110Open
    50.00
    Possible Payout: 95.45
    May 1, 20121:32 PM Single Bet
    • Denver at LA Lakers (Moneyline)Denver+220Open
    100.00
    Possible Payout: 320.00
    May 1, 20121:32 PM Single Bet
    • Denver at LA LakersDenver +6-110Open
    100.00
    Possible Payout: 190.91

    5-1 for +$672 on basketball edges...

    All these plays beat Pinnys true odds by a few cents or more when I checked them.

    A dogs day at SIA is a fukking good day!
    Last edited by dj_destroyer; 05-02-12 at 01:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardedTaco View Post
    I can't recall making a significant gameday pinny wager on a high liquidity american sport. Pinny is for openers.
    That, answers it all. Pinny gets as close as it can be to the true odds just minutes before game time. Not to mention, they get as close as it can be to which side is going to cover the spread. To those of you who might think that pinnacle moves their lines according to volume SOLELY, you are dead wrong...

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    Quote Originally Posted by goblue12 View Post
    I never find the best odds on the sides I bet at Pinnacle.
    That tells you how pinny makes money, and why they more than welcome arbs action. I mean, they are not idiots to hang +113 or +115 lines by giving you the ability to sell half a point even on 2nd. half NBA spreads. They must be doing it for a reason.

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    You cannot arb much off Pinnacle because most books have low limts to make any money and the ones that do you get limited real fast

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    Quote Originally Posted by rowand13 View Post
    That, answers it all. Pinny gets as close as it can be to the true odds just minutes before game time. Not to mention, they get as close as it can be to which side is going to cover the spread. To those of you who might think that pinnacle moves their lines according to volume SOLELY, you are dead wrong...

    yet another guy who makes 30k month gambling.


    yawn

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    You cannot arb much off Pinnacle because most books have low limts to make any money and the ones that do you get limited real fast
    if that were true, there wouldn't be so many people doing it for a living

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    Superjeff????????????? Its peanuts

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    To fill rollover requirements and of course Arb???

    Are they actually one sided players there????

    Other books to dump money into to balance books??
    no. other books use betfair. and as for arbing, it would require the absolute best price on the market, which pinny seldom delivers.

    the main thing why pinny is good is that you can be sure you are getting good price, close to the best in the market, no matter what bet you make.

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    HeeHaw

    that's the guy


    speak up, HeeHaw

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    Do you think NBA lines changes of 5% or more are caused by locals hedging their positions most of the time? NBA openers are pretty efficient, so such drops should result into EV- bets.

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    Betfair for some reason seems not to have a ton of Arbs vs other books

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