Is Pinnacle Mainly An Arbing/Layoff Book????

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  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #1
    Is Pinnacle Mainly An Arbing/Layoff Book????
    To fill rollover requirements and of course Arb???

    Are they actually one sided players there????

    Other books to dump money into to balance books??
  • ApricotSinner32
    Restricted User
    • 11-28-10
    • 10648

    #2
    Gold go ask your bushes/shrubs for winners pal.
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    • taxer
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 05-31-11
      • 630

      #3
      Nah pinny was made on decisions and astronomical volume from asian clientele
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      • as99
        SBR MVP
        • 03-25-10
        • 1585

        #4
        Pinnacle is the only book you need. Instant payments. High limits.
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        • over9000bets
          Restricted User
          • 05-01-12
          • 3

          #5
          Is it safe to say they are the best? just looking at the sbr ranking's thats what I'm gathering. someone convince me why
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          • mathdotcom
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 03-24-08
            • 11689

            #6
            No.
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            • Sam Odom
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 10-30-05
              • 58063

              #7
              put aside all of the mystery & magic attributed to Pinny they would be my ONLY book if I was reduced to just one
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              • dj_destroyer
                SBR MVP
                • 07-28-10
                • 3856

                #8
                Agreed... Everyone says how hard it is to beat Pinny -- Yes, because it has the highest liquidity. But that also means the highest limits and lowest juice possible.

                It's very useful for arbing, hedging, completing rollover, etc. but it would also be my only book if I had to choose one.

                If you rely solely on bonus whoring, scalping, slow line movements, middling, hedging, arbing, reverse line movements, sniping, etc. then you will eventually run out of places to play and ways to win.
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                • prop
                  SBR MVP
                  • 09-04-07
                  • 1073

                  #9
                  If I had to choose one book I'd pick SIA, if I could chose two SIA + Bodog. If three SIA + Bodog + Bet365, if 4 SIA + Bodog + Bet365 + William Hill... somewhere around choosing just 30 I'd go with Pinnacle. Now of course because in imaginary land (because no one need to choose just one book) I'd say I'd decide to have them all give me massive limits, but while conjuring something up I'll just take the genie with unlimited wishes instead and at that point would just stop betting.
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                  • MUHerd37
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 10-23-09
                    • 12816

                    #10
                    Pinnacle doesn't have as many betting options. That's what I don't like about it. Great book tho.
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                    • stevex
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 05-02-10
                      • 5122

                      #11
                      I can only imagine what it would be like to have Pinnacle in my arsenal of books. Gold, you think Pinnacle would ever bring back U.S. clients?
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                      • BeardedTaco
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 10-18-11
                        • 647

                        #12
                        I can't recall making a significant gameday pinny wager on a high liquidity american sport. Pinny is for openers.
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                        • jjgold
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 07-20-05
                          • 388179

                          #13
                          Stevenx never

                          Laws to strict
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                          • baskets
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 11-24-11
                            • 11691

                            #14
                            Originally posted by prop
                            If I had to choose one book I'd pick SIA, if I could chose two SIA + Bodog. If three SIA + Bodog + Bet365, if 4 SIA + Bodog + Bet365 + William Hill... somewhere around choosing just 30 I'd go with Pinnacle. Now of course because in imaginary land (because no one need to choose just one book) I'd say I'd decide to have them all give me massive limits, but while conjuring something up I'll just take the genie with unlimited wishes instead and at that point would just stop betting.


                            lol, you get the best price and greater limits at Pinny.... but they wouldn't even be in your top 10?


                            yeah, let me get down at a different book where it costs more and I'll get less back.. and I can bet less.


                            gimme a break
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                            • Ruifgalmeida
                              SBR MVP
                              • 04-23-08
                              • 2024

                              #15
                              80% of the time pinny was the best price so 80% of the time i make my business there.
                              They are getting bigger and better every year.
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                              • Ruifgalmeida
                                SBR MVP
                                • 04-23-08
                                • 2024

                                #16
                                Originally posted by prop
                                If I had to choose one book I'd pick SIA, if I could chose two SIA + Bodog. If three SIA + Bodog + Bet365, if 4 SIA + Bodog + Bet365 + William Hill... somewhere around choosing just 30 I'd go with Pinnacle. Now of course because in imaginary land (because no one need to choose just one book) I'd say I'd decide to have them all give me massive limits, but while conjuring something up I'll just take the genie with unlimited wishes instead and at that point would just stop betting.
                                if you had to chose two bookies you chose SIA and Bodog , dont mean to ofend but are you on drugs
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                                • jjgold
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 07-20-05
                                  • 388179

                                  #17
                                  SIA is good for Dogs that is why guys like them
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                                  • durito
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 07-03-06
                                    • 13173

                                    #18
                                    they are also good at stealing peoples money (sia that is)
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                                    • baskets
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 11-24-11
                                      • 11691

                                      #19
                                      I would tend to believe that tennis guy. Can't remember his name. Always playing poker. Used to say he takes out 6k, 4k, 3k a month from Pinny.

                                      He was believable. Can't remember his name.

                                      Hewitt?
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                                      • jjgold
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 07-20-05
                                        • 388179

                                        #20
                                        I know very few guys betting one side at Pinny and beating them

                                        Talk to me
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                                        • baskets
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 11-24-11
                                          • 11691

                                          #21
                                          fukk, JJ, can't remember his name

                                          Hewitt? Hewlen? Hawson?
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                                          • goblue12
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 02-08-09
                                            • 1316

                                            #22
                                            I never find the best odds on the sides I bet at Pinnacle.
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                                            • skrtelfan
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 10-09-08
                                              • 1913

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by BeardedTaco
                                              I can't recall making a significant gameday pinny wager on a high liquidity american sport. Pinny is for openers.
                                              On "anti-steam" type plays, Pinnacle is good too, because of their low margin.
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                                              • dj_destroyer
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 07-28-10
                                                • 3856

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by jjgold
                                                I know very few guys betting one side at Pinny and beating them

                                                Talk to me

                                                I did it for a long while... hit an evenly long patch of breaking even though... but I'm definitely up lifetime at Pinny -- maybe 4 or 5k.

                                                I'm done with that though, I'm learning how the big boys do it now.
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                                                • dj_destroyer
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 07-28-10
                                                  • 3856

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by jjgold
                                                  SIA is good for Dogs that is why guys like them
                                                  May 1, 20121:31 PM Single Bet
                                                  • Philadelphia at Chicago (Moneyline)Philadelphia+260Open
                                                  100.00
                                                  Possible Payout: 360.00
                                                  May 1, 20121:31 PM Single Bet
                                                  • Philadelphia at ChicagoPhiladelphia +7-110Open
                                                  100.00
                                                  Possible Payout: 190.91
                                                  May 1, 20121:31 PM Single Bet
                                                  • Boston at Atlanta (Moneyline)Boston+190Open
                                                  150.00
                                                  Possible Payout: 435.00
                                                  May 1, 20121:39 PM Single Bet
                                                  • Boston at AtlantaBoston +5-110Open
                                                  50.00
                                                  Possible Payout: 95.45
                                                  May 1, 20121:32 PM Single Bet
                                                  • Denver at LA Lakers (Moneyline)Denver+220Open
                                                  100.00
                                                  Possible Payout: 320.00
                                                  May 1, 20121:32 PM Single Bet
                                                  • Denver at LA LakersDenver +6-110Open
                                                  100.00
                                                  Possible Payout: 190.91
                                                  5-1 for +$672 on basketball edges...

                                                  All these plays beat Pinnys true odds by a few cents or more when I checked them.

                                                  A dogs day at SIA is a fukking good day!
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                                                  • rowand13
                                                    SBR Hustler
                                                    • 10-25-11
                                                    • 53

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by BeardedTaco
                                                    I can't recall making a significant gameday pinny wager on a high liquidity american sport. Pinny is for openers.
                                                    That, answers it all. Pinny gets as close as it can be to the true odds just minutes before game time. Not to mention, they get as close as it can be to which side is going to cover the spread. To those of you who might think that pinnacle moves their lines according to volume SOLELY, you are dead wrong...
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                                                    • rowand13
                                                      SBR Hustler
                                                      • 10-25-11
                                                      • 53

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by goblue12
                                                      I never find the best odds on the sides I bet at Pinnacle.
                                                      That tells you how pinny makes money, and why they more than welcome arbs action. I mean, they are not idiots to hang +113 or +115 lines by giving you the ability to sell half a point even on 2nd. half NBA spreads. They must be doing it for a reason.
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                                                      • jjgold
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 07-20-05
                                                        • 388179

                                                        #28
                                                        You cannot arb much off Pinnacle because most books have low limts to make any money and the ones that do you get limited real fast
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                                                        • baskets
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 11-24-11
                                                          • 11691

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by rowand13
                                                          That, answers it all. Pinny gets as close as it can be to the true odds just minutes before game time. Not to mention, they get as close as it can be to which side is going to cover the spread. To those of you who might think that pinnacle moves their lines according to volume SOLELY, you are dead wrong...

                                                          yet another guy who makes 30k month gambling.


                                                          yawn
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                                                          • superjeff24
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 03-17-10
                                                            • 1078

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by jjgold
                                                            You cannot arb much off Pinnacle because most books have low limts to make any money and the ones that do you get limited real fast
                                                            if that were true, there wouldn't be so many people doing it for a living
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                                                            • jjgold
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 07-20-05
                                                              • 388179

                                                              #31
                                                              Superjeff????????????? Its peanuts
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                                                              • lukahh
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 04-08-10
                                                                • 941

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                To fill rollover requirements and of course Arb???

                                                                Are they actually one sided players there????

                                                                Other books to dump money into to balance books??
                                                                no. other books use betfair. and as for arbing, it would require the absolute best price on the market, which pinny seldom delivers.

                                                                the main thing why pinny is good is that you can be sure you are getting good price, close to the best in the market, no matter what bet you make.
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                                                                • baskets
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 11-24-11
                                                                  • 11691

                                                                  #33
                                                                  HeeHaw

                                                                  that's the guy


                                                                  speak up, HeeHaw
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                                                                  • strixee
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 05-31-10
                                                                    • 432

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Do you think NBA lines changes of 5% or more are caused by locals hedging their positions most of the time? NBA openers are pretty efficient, so such drops should result into EV- bets.
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                                                                    • jjgold
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 07-20-05
                                                                      • 388179

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Betfair for some reason seems not to have a ton of Arbs vs other books
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