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  • shocka1212
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 10-06-12
    • 16788

    #6441
    Originally posted by 2wayOhtani
    the recent surge was done to do a massive dump in the coming days. all lower media channels are pimping hard for bitcoin and other coins....expect a big sell off in the coming days if the price goes anywhere close to 10k and the next dip will touch down 5k.
    this thread had a good run...later guys.
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    • PSD999
      SBR Sharp
      • 07-28-10
      • 486

      #6442
      Originally posted by grease lightnin
      Most cryptocurrencies are likely to fail with their value falling to zero, Goldman Sachs said in a note, comparing the current market to the "internet bubble of the late 1990s."
      https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/07/most...achs-says.html
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      • grease lightnin
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 10-01-12
        • 16015

        #6443

        Investment banks are wrong all the time.

        But that doesn’t mean they are wrong more than they’re right. Or that you should just throw out whatever they say.

        The thing in that article that jumped out at me was his comment that all cryptos are highly correlated, and this is cause for concern.

        I should have known it would tank when I saw the show shine boy indicator flashing red a few weeks back.
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        • raiders72001
          Senior Member
          • 08-10-05
          • 11065

          #6444
          Originally posted by grease lightnin
          Investment banks are wrong all the time.

          But that doesn’t mean they are wrong more than they’re right. Or that you should just throw out whatever they say.

          The thing in that article that jumped out at me was his comment that all cryptos are highly correlated, and this is cause for concern.
          I go a lot further than you do in discrediting the banking industry. You can throw out the opinions of those involved with banks. Bitcoin is a direct threat to banks.

          Sports
          gambling, stocks and cryptos are three totally different gambling markets with the exception of the regulated bitcoin futures market although the futures market isn't affecting the price.
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          • Arky
            SBR MVP
            • 12-09-11
            • 1095

            #6445
            I only caught about the last half on the senate hearings yesterday but I got the feeling most in the room were pro-crypto and pro-cryptotech. It was really good to see. It only makes sense that the United States would take this position - we're a nation of capitalists and tech lovers.

            "Give me your tired, your poor, your s**t coins....."

            If all these other countries want to get out or prevent their citizens from investing, let 'em go. The US, Western Europe and Japan will pick up the slack, IMO....it might keep the market depressed for a long time but you have to think the block-chain technology is here to stay....

            It's a market where unsubstantiated rumors can send the market rising or plunging on a whim. The gambler in me loves the volatility but even I am hoping for a little stability to ground things for a while..... Whether that's at 8k, 10k, 12k or whatever - just a little stability so some of these alt-coins have a chance to grow on their own....
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            • horja1
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 01-13-11
              • 5646

              #6446
              Binance is down
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              • SnakesPicks
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 10-05-13
                • 685

                #6447
                Originally posted by ibetyouadollar
                hey quick question,if i had $100 in my btc wallet,and i wanna load my bitpay card,how much would i be able to load to bitpay?the other week i couldnt even load $50 and i had $80 in my btc wallet.
                I have been checking BTC credit card options and have yet to find one that is currently usable for residents of the USA. If you are in the USA Bitpay is NOT an option at the moment.
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                • SnakesPicks
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 10-05-13
                  • 685

                  #6448
                  Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                  tired of getting kicked in the nuts every day

                  when will this downswing end?
                  Think long term... like May or December 2018. he he he...
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                  • SnakesPicks
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 10-05-13
                    • 685

                    #6449
                    Originally posted by Plaza23
                    Ripple's gone from 3.31 to .84 in a month
                    Ripple was crazy overvalued at 3 bucks plus though. Made a little shorting that shit and I had a lousy base price of 13,700 Satoshi. If you shorted it when it hit 20,000+ Satoshi, you coulda made a killing. I wouldn't be surprised if it went back to 4,000 Satoshi or less even.
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                    • horja1
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 01-13-11
                      • 5646

                      #6450
                      Originally posted by horja1
                      Binance is down
                      Wow

                      Still waiting on data copy, it will take a while, another 10 hrs at the current estimate. Due to the unexpected length of time, we will allow 30 mins for people to withdraw orders before trading resumes when system is back.
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                      • firekillex
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 09-18-13
                        • 6420

                        #6451
                        got a big winner from the group im in coming this week...
                        it just dropped on exchanges and could be a BIG winner , long term hold
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                        • horja1
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 01-13-11
                          • 5646

                          #6452
                          Originally posted by horja1
                          Wow
                          At least 15 more hours of Binance downtime
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                          • ByeShea
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 06-30-08
                            • 8065

                            #6453
                            Originally posted by raiders72001
                            Bitcoin is a direct threat to banks.
                            I closed on a property yesterday morning. It was all good, but the process was a pain in the ass since mid-December. Someday blockchain is going to speed and cheapen transactions up. I have no doubt banks are on full disruption alert.
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                            • ByeShea
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 06-30-08
                              • 8065

                              #6454
                              Originally posted by Arky
                              I only caught about the last half on the senate hearings yesterday but I got the feeling most in the room were pro-crypto and pro-cryptotech. It was really good to see. It only makes sense that the United States would take this position - we're a nation of capitalists and tech lovers.

                              "Give me your tired, your poor, your s**t coins....."
                              And not a hub of oppressive regulation!

                              I should know, that's my field. We watch financial regulatory agencies very closely - instinctively waiting for shoes to drop (across all of finance, btw, not just crypts) ... but it's not happening. Yet.
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                              • grease lightnin
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 10-01-12
                                • 16015

                                #6455
                                Do you guys think the Lightning Network will be up this year and should that run up btc value?
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                                • grease lightnin
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 10-01-12
                                  • 16015

                                  #6456
                                  Originally posted by ByeShea
                                  I closed on a property yesterday morning. It was all good, but the process was a pain in the ass since mid-December. Someday blockchain is going to speed and cheapen transactions up. I have no doubt banks are on full disruption alert.

                                  The mortgage process? That doesn’t have anything to do with the speed of a money transfer.

                                  That is because they have to cross all their t’s and dot their l’s to underwrite your loan.

                                  Blockchain will not help this.
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                                  • PaperTrail07
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 08-29-08
                                    • 20423

                                    #6457
                                    whenever people say binance is down I get right in lol
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                                    • hotcross
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 08-04-17
                                      • 7934

                                      #6458
                                      Grease, there is some controversy about the true meaning of the Lightning Network, more than some here will care to admit or even realize. Sorry but I'll leave it at that.

                                      And as for your post in reply to the mortgage paperwork efficiency, you clearly do not understand anything about the difference between "blockchain" technology, vs. the cryptocurrencies.

                                      Nothing personal. You just should stop posting in this thread until you become knowledgeable.
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                                      • horja1
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 01-13-11
                                        • 5646

                                        #6459
                                        Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                        whenever people say binance is down I get right in lol
                                        There is no trading on Binance
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                                        • reigle9
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 10-25-07
                                          • 17879

                                          #6460
                                          Originally posted by ByeShea
                                          I closed on a property yesterday morning. It was all good, but the process was a pain in the ass since mid-December. Someday blockchain is going to speed and cheapen transactions up. I have no doubt banks are on full disruption alert.
                                          there's also a deed check in there that takes a ridiculous amount of time (or maybe that varies per state idk)
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                                          • Bluehorseshoe
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 07-13-06
                                            • 14985

                                            #6461
                                            Today is the first day I've seen BCH move in the opposite direction of Bitcoin since they got on Coinbase. BCH made a decent move up.
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                                            • ByeShea
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 06-30-08
                                              • 8065

                                              #6462
                                              I wrote "Someday blockchain is going to speed and cheapen transactions up".

                                              Originally posted by grease lightnin
                                              The mortgage process? That doesn’t have anything to do with the speed of a money transfer.

                                              That is because they have to cross all their t’s and dot their l’s to underwrite your loan.

                                              Blockchain will not help this.
                                              I think you just prefer to argue. Top 3 results in Google.

                                              3 ways blockchain could transform real estate in 2018

                                              Blockchain in commercial real estate

                                              Blockchain technology threatens the middleman in real estate transactions

                                              There are a number of real estate centric blockchain applications ... the one I'm most familiar is Propy (token: PRO)... Propy integrates blockchain ledger for the governments to make title deeds issuance for your property instantly online, secure and cost-effective.

                                              I know some people, smart people, who are evangelical about PRO. I don't know if they have an official relationship with Propy. That said, they shill so hard I'd say they're more passionate about its price than the product, which to me is off putting.
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                                              • mngambler
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 08-01-11
                                                • 2890

                                                #6463
                                                Originally posted by grease lightnin
                                                Do you guys think the Lightning Network will be up this year and should that run up btc value?
                                                Absolutely, assuming all goes as planned I think "faster & cheaper" is obviously a good thing, hopefully it helps create more use cases for Bitcoin other than being a stored value, ie 'more transactions' whether they are for purchasing goods or just sending money back and forth.

                                                I truly believe we are still in the "toddler" stages of all this crypto and the guys who hold on for dear life are going to come out in MUCH higher income brackets, will the road to riches be paved smooth? hell no, but if you watch the market closesly you can see almost daily/weekly progress, they are overcoming obstacles, more businesses/retailers are coming on board, more chatter from celebs, and other media personalities, and the list goes on and on...much more good to come in the next 1-2 years imo
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                                                • grease lightnin
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 10-01-12
                                                  • 16015

                                                  #6464
                                                  Originally posted by ByeShea
                                                  I wrote "Someday blockchain is going to speed and cheapen transactions up".



                                                  I think you just prefer to argue. Top 3 results in Google.

                                                  3 ways blockchain could transform real estate in 2018

                                                  Blockchain in commercial real estate

                                                  Blockchain technology threatens the middleman in real estate transactions

                                                  There are a number of real estate centric blockchain applications ... the one I'm most familiar is Propy (token: PRO)... Propy integrates blockchain ledger for the governments to make title deeds issuance for your property instantly online, secure and cost-effective.

                                                  I know some people, smart people, who are evangelical about PRO. I don't know if they have an official relationship with Propy. That said, they shill so hard I'd say they're more passionate about its price than the product, which to me is off putting.


                                                  Someday, yes, I can see where it could make things more efficient, and speed things up some. But as long as the govt is involved and everything is getting bought up by Fannie Mae it will be fraught with red tape.

                                                  I am not in the mortgage business, but I have a lot of experience in holding people’s hands through the process and it seems like there are always hurdles that come up and prolong the process because the underwriters need some stupid verification to fit the loan within Fannie/Freddie guidelines. Fuk even portfolioed loans with big banks have similar guidelines and dumb shit comes up.

                                                  And these hurdles are always after you think the loan is good to go and on time to close, and the jndwrwriter is like “hold up, I need proof of a $63 deposit the IRS made into your bank account two years ago for your refund, to prove you filed. Normally we only need the signed tax return to prove it, but since you filed an extension we need proof of the $63 deposit”. Like whaaa?

                                                  Seriously, it is dumb shit like that all the time and it is always something different. There seem to be countless “one-off” hurdles that you have never seen before and will probably never see again. Always something different.

                                                  Blockchain may help, though, one day. I am not an expert on Blockchain and I am literally the most negative person on the planet when it comes to mortgage underwriting. I fukking hate it.
                                                  Last edited by grease lightnin; 02-08-18, 03:23 PM.
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                                                  • raiders72001
                                                    Senior Member
                                                    • 08-10-05
                                                    • 11065

                                                    #6465
                                                    Originally posted by ByeShea
                                                    I closed on a property yesterday morning. It was all good, but the process was a pain in the ass since mid-December. Someday blockchain is going to speed and cheapen transactions up. I have no doubt banks are on full disruption alert.
                                                    Technologies like blockchain have the potential to change the game in the financial services industry by not only speeding up and providing complete visibility into financial transactions, but also significantly reducing costs.
                                                    https://www.housingwire.com/blogs/1-...ckchain-primer
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                                                    • shocka1212
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 10-06-12
                                                      • 16788

                                                      #6466
                                                      Originally posted by ByeShea
                                                      I closed on a property yesterday morning. It was all good, but the process was a pain in the ass since mid-December. Someday blockchain is going to speed and cheapen transactions up. I have no doubt banks are on full disruption alert.
                                                      which state? I work out of NJ and NY.
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                                                      • The Giant
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 01-21-12
                                                        • 21480

                                                        #6467
                                                        With everyone expecting another BTC dip, is now a good time to sell? And then buy back in a couple of days/weeks?
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                                                        • BeatTheJerk
                                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                          • 08-19-07
                                                          • 31794

                                                          #6468
                                                          Originally posted by The Giant
                                                          With everyone expecting another BTC dip, is now a good time to sell? And then buy back in a couple of days/weeks?
                                                          It hasn’t re-dipped yet pal, wait. Under 7k then buy. You should be holding it in USD when it’s steady like this. Yeah so in your case sell.
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                                                          • The Giant
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 01-21-12
                                                            • 21480

                                                            #6469
                                                            Originally posted by BeatTheJerk
                                                            It hasn’t re-dipped yet pal, wait. Under 7k then buy. You should be holding it in USD when it’s steady like this. Yeah so in your case sell.
                                                            The steadiness usually means a dip is coming?
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                                                            • jjgold
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 07-20-05
                                                              • 388189

                                                              #6470
                                                              Don’t try to trade his thing you’ll go broke
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                                                              • bonzaii
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 07-07-17
                                                                • 5000

                                                                #6471
                                                                You should invest all your money in bitcoin and ethereum and you can retire in Costa Rica in a few years.
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                                                                • bonzaii
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 07-07-17
                                                                  • 5000

                                                                  #6472
                                                                  Can we get a line for when this thread will hit a million views
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                                                                  • BeatTheJerk
                                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                    • 08-19-07
                                                                    • 31794

                                                                    #6473
                                                                    Originally posted by The Giant
                                                                    The steadiness usually means a dip is coming?
                                                                    I have no bleeping clue, but I’m watching it closely Giant.
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                                                                    • Chi_archie
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 07-22-08
                                                                      • 63165

                                                                      #6474
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                                                                      • The Giant
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 01-21-12
                                                                        • 21480

                                                                        #6475
                                                                        Originally posted by BeatTheJerk
                                                                        I have no bleeping clue, but I’m watching it closely Giant.
                                                                        Appreciate the honesty.

                                                                        I've been holding it (and gambling with it) for what seems like forever. I've never really thought about selling it before, but everyone seems to think another dip is coming. I would hate to sell and see it skyrocket. That would hurt.
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