But what if the cop says that guy was not cooperating, acting hostile and when the driver said he had a gun, the officer told him not to reach for it and keep his hands on the steering wheel and the guy reached anyway?
Because I can tell you that is what he will say and if there is no other evidence, he will not go to jail. That doesn't make it true, and it doesn't make it right, but that is the law and that is what will happen.
The guy pulled over, he had his seat belt on. The officer asks for his ID. The guy tells him that he's going to reach for his wallet and to be aware that he has a firearm and the cop starts shooting. The cop then points the gun at the girlfriend and spouts off expletives at her as if shes a criminal. For a fukking tail light.
If this guy was intent on shooting the cop, he would have unbuckled his seat belt and started shooting the cop as soon as he walked up to the car. NO ONE in their right mind would wait for the officer to come to the door and ask for ID. No one in their right mind is going to start a gun fight with the girlfriend and baby daughter in the car. The cop can say all he wants but it will not change the facts in this case. The guy was sitting in the car with his seat belt on. He did not have a gun in his hands at the time of the shooting. Do you really think the cop can say a guy is hostile while sitting in his car seat buckled up? A hostile person would have stepped out of the car guns blazing. This was not some guy running from the scene of a violent crime or a high speed chase. The cop stopped him for a freaking tail light. This cop is fukked.
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teecee
SBR Hall of Famer
09-18-09
6308
#144
Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
The reason we don't hear about all the white folks getting killed by cops is because it does not sell.
The news will only show stories that will get a strong reaction, or divide, or whatever. Funny how they never include the actors in on the profits they make through advertising dollars.
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teecee
SBR Hall of Famer
09-18-09
6308
#145
Originally posted by blackHIPPY
White people always wanna be the victim
Gonna go out on a limb and say nobody wants to be a victim.
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Grits n' Gravy
Restricted User
06-10-10
13024
#146
Originally posted by Alex Hart
How dare you say that you RACISTS! Didn't you listen to what BlackHippy and Grits n' Gravy said in this thread? Cops don't shoot white people. There is no evidence of it ever happening so don't tell them otherwise. You must pick a side!
[end sarcasm]
show me where I said cops don't shoot white people too. show me where I said pick a side. You can't, because I didn't. There are good and bad people everywhere. Just as there are intelligent people and morons. You are a moron.
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Grits n' Gravy
Restricted User
06-10-10
13024
#147
Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
The guy pulled over, he had his seat belt on. The officer asks for his ID. The guy tells him that he's going to reach for his wallet and to be aware that he has a firearm and the cop starts shooting. The cop then points the gun at the girlfriend and spouts off expletives at her as if shes a criminal. For a fukking tail light.
If this guy was intent on shooting the cop, he would have unbuckled his seat belt and started shooting the cop as soon as he walked up to the car. NO ONE in their right mind would wait for the officer to come to the door and ask for ID. No one in their right mind is going to start a gun fight with the girlfriend and baby daughter in the car. The cop can say all he wants but it will not change the facts in this case. The guy was sitting in the car with his seat belt on. He did not have a gun in his hands at the time of the shooting. Do you really think the cop can say a guy is hostile while sitting in his car seat buckled up? A hostile person would have stepped out of the car guns blazing. This was not some guy running from the scene of a violent crime or a high speed chase. The cop stopped him for a freaking tail light. This cop is fukked.
If the cop had been properly trained and had the ability to maintain composure the murder never would have happened. The second the victim said he had a legal firearm the cop should have asked him to please step out of the vehicle and let the cop take temporary possession of the firearm. Then you go about writing a citation for a busted tail light, check that the firearm is legal and send him on his way.
A simple traffic citation that most cops ignore turned into a homicide because of an incompetent cop. Whether the cop is racist or loves all people isn't the issue, the poor training and unqualified people policing our streets is.
Good cops who want to help their communities need to step forward and take back their departments from the corrupt, unqualified and indifferent. No more blue wall. If and when the people fight back, they will all be lumped together and that is a shame.
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388208
#148
Most of these are justified
Of course a rare few cops need to go to jail
The ghetto kids needs to go to work and stop committing crimes
Black race has had very little advance in 175 years..FACT
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Mac4Lyfe
SBR Aristocracy
01-04-09
48806
#149
To top this shit off. They arrested the woman. What the fukk reason did they have to arrest her?
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Auto Donk
SBR Aristocracy
09-03-13
43572
#150
Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
The woman recording this.... totally unreal. Man is shot... bleeding everywhere... she's recording it.
You can't make this sh#$ up.
had the bitch made a move to save him, she'd be dead too.....
and don't get me started on the f'n kid in the back seat.... cops would have filled her full of holes too.... according to the cops, you can't trust a 2 to 3 year old black ho any more than one who's 22-23
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Itsamazing777
SBR Posting Legend
11-14-12
11493
#151
he told him he had a gun and reached for an object unkown to the officer at that time of course he thought it was a gun
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grease lightnin
SBR Posting Legend
10-01-12
16096
#152
Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
The guy pulled over, he had his seat belt on. The officer asks for his ID. The guy tells him that he's going to reach for his wallet and to be aware that he has a firearm and the cop starts shooting. The cop then points the gun at the girlfriend and spouts off expletives at her as if shes a criminal. For a fukking tail light.
If this guy was intent on shooting the cop, he would have unbuckled his seat belt and started shooting the cop as soon as he walked up to the car. NO ONE in their right mind would wait for the officer to come to the door and ask for ID. No one in their right mind is going to start a gun fight with the girlfriend and baby daughter in the car. The cop can say all he wants but it will not change the facts in this case. The guy was sitting in the car with his seat belt on. He did not have a gun in his hands at the time of the shooting. Do you really think the cop can say a guy is hostile while sitting in his car seat buckled up? A hostile person would have stepped out of the car guns blazing. This was not some guy running from the scene of a violent crime or a high speed chase. The cop stopped him for a freaking tail light. This cop is fukked.
This is all hearsay bra.
Where is the video of what transpired before the guy was shot?
Again you are probably right, but without proof, the cop goes free.
Amirite, donker?
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388208
#153
I don't know why these officers get into wrestling matches with these guys stay away from them and keep the gun draw
The Minnesota case the cop should've stayed away a little bit and watch his hands
It's a tough situation regardless
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Mac4Lyfe
SBR Aristocracy
01-04-09
48806
#154
Originally posted by grease lightnin
This is all hearsay bra.
Where is the video of what transpired before the guy was shot?
Again you are probably right, but without proof, the cop goes free.
Amirite, donker?
We can certainly make a points bet because I can guarantee you that officer will be off the force and will be doing hard time. The justice department is now involved. Good luck with that.
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Jayvegas420
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
03-09-11
28229
#155
Dont these cops have dash cams?
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grease lightnin
SBR Posting Legend
10-01-12
16096
#156
Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
We can certainly make a points bet because I can guarantee you that officer will be off the force and will be doing hard time. The justice department is now involved. Good luck with that.
I agree he will be off the force, but he will not be convicted unless new evidence emerges. If he is, it will set a new precedent.
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Mac4Lyfe
SBR Aristocracy
01-04-09
48806
#157
Originally posted by grease lightnin
I agree he will be off the force, but he will not be convicted unless new evidence emerges. If he is, it will set a new precedent.
He's going to jail Grease. Do you know the outrage that will result if he gets off? Why do you think the justice department was called in? Why do you think the Governor has already said that this was a racist act? Have you forgotten Rodney King? That entire state might be set on fire if he walks. That cop is totally fukked.
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grease lightnin
SBR Posting Legend
10-01-12
16096
#158
Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
He's going to jail Grease. Do you know the outrage that will result if he gets off? Why do you think the justice department was called in? Why do you think the Governor has already said that this was a racist act? Have you forgotten Rodney King? That entire state might be set on fire if he walks. That cop is totally fukked.
What is the bet?
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NrmlCurvSurfr
SBR MVP
04-05-10
2899
#159
Originally posted by Itsamazing777
he told him he had a gun and reached for an object unkown to the officer at that time of course he thought it was a gun
I would guess most people that are about to pull a gun on an officer are not going to inform the officer that they have a gun...that being said, and I don't care to see the video, you have to be cautious when you are dealing with a police officer while carrying(or not)..
I've been pulled over twice for speeding while carrying, it's like playing Simon Says and Red Light Green Light rolled into one...
i get my wallet out before I pull over, have my chl and dl in my hand and hands visible, once the officer sees the chl he will ask where it is, you tell him, Both times I was able to keep it on me, then he asks for insurance, tell him where it is and ask if you can retrieve it(most likely in glove box)...dont give the officer any reason to think you are doing anything but following his orders...that's your best chance of survival
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Chi_archie
SBR Aristocracy
07-22-08
63182
#160
So this dude had a permit to carry.
the NRA surely will have his families back and be in the fore front of the media discussion to protect the legacy of mr. Castile as he exercised his 2nd amendment rights.
correct?
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El Nino
SBR Posting Legend
05-03-12
18426
#161
Originally posted by Chi_archie
So this dude had a permit to carry.
the NRA surely will have his families back and be in the fore front of the media discussion to protect the legacy of mr. Castile as he exercised his 2nd amendment rights.
correct?
You would hope so.
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grease lightnin
SBR Posting Legend
10-01-12
16096
#162
Originally posted by Chi_archie
So this dude had a permit to carry.
the NRA surely will have his families back and be in the fore front of the media discussion to protect the legacy of mr. Castile as he exercised his 2nd amendment rights.
correct?
Enough people are saying this that they will have to.
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recon1
SBR MVP
08-13-12
2579
#163
Originally posted by Chi_archie
So this dude had a permit to carry.
the NRA surely will have his families back and be in the fore front of the media discussion to protect the legacy of mr. Castile as he exercised his 2nd amendment rights.
correct?
Not if the deceased didn't follow protocol suggested by NRA and common logical sense.
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TheMoneyShot
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
02-14-07
28690
#164
I owned a business where black people would walk up and down the strip mall like they owned the place. They use to open the front door to every single business in the mall and talk sh#$... say ludicrous sh#$... and be disrespectful.
Clearly... these black folks don't listen to the men wearing the badge. They don't listen to directions... PERIOD.
But when a white officer shoots a black.... all hell breaks loose. Why?
Just fukking listen... and follow the orders. These fukking clowns thinks it's fun and games to rebel. Well oh well... you get shot... you die... buh bye.
I don't know why this is so hard to figure out??? Too many fukking liberals out in this world. When an officer says... PUT YOUR HANDS WHERE I CAN SEE THEM.... doesn't mean you put your fukking hands in your pocket!
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388208
#165
Certain people just cannot follow orders
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Chi_archie
SBR Aristocracy
07-22-08
63182
#166
Originally posted by recon1
Not if the deceased didn't follow protocol suggested by NRA and common logical sense.
What is the protocol?
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recon1
SBR MVP
08-13-12
2579
#167
Originally posted by Chi_archie
What is the protocol?
Don't quote me, but I'm sure it may still be on NRA website it says basic common knowledge such as: Advise your carrying and when asked to produce I.D. only then reach for it.
Granted i have not watched video of this particular incident, but assume by comments here this may have been case of suspect acting froggy. No, i also don't think acting froggy should get you shot either, but without all the hysterical political correctness B.S. when your a bravo Mike and have shown a propensity for extreme violence, i'd try and kill a cop with kindness first and foremost and maybe help change the deserved stereotype. Me personally id have to literally see a weapon first, but i know one thing, Asians have one hell of a knee-jerk reaction.
I also don't agree with cops resting hands on the butt of handgun while in public and encourage everybody to audio and video record all legal encounters with any police or thereof. Just remember if your accused of committing a crime usually felony or any arrestable offense you will be told to put camera down.
hope this helps
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Jayvegas420
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
03-09-11
28229
#168
Have i been confusing MLD with TMS all this time?
If not........
When did TMS become such a stubborn bigot?
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Jayvegas420
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
03-09-11
28229
#169
Originally posted by lakerboy
Hippy the media overplays the black ones. I'm sickened by this.
Sometimes shit is overplayed because its over done.
Dont be a dick LB. White 4 year old goes missing its on the news 24/7.
Black kid goes missing its just another black hood kid out for the weekend.
Its not fair to say and its not proportionate.
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Mac4Lyfe
SBR Aristocracy
01-04-09
48806
#170
Originally posted by grease lightnin
What is the bet?
500 bet points to me if he goes to jail. 800 points to you if he does no time.
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bettilimbroke999
SBR Posting Legend
02-04-08
13254
#171
When an officer asks for your ID whatever you do don't reach for it...easiest way to get shot
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Booya711
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
12-20-11
27364
#172
Originally posted by Jayvegas420
What if he was reaching for Skittles?
Fukk...it was Marshawn Lynch????
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Booya711
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
12-20-11
27364
#173
Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
5'5" Asian cop, probably with short man/dick issues.
Asian cop but here at the circus we call SBR, everyone is white vs black instinctively.
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grease lightnin
SBR Posting Legend
10-01-12
16096
#174
Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
500 bet points to me if he goes to jail. 800 points to you if he does no time.
Deal
Edit: contingent upon no new evidence being entered, as I said at the outset
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388208
#175
It does seem hard to comprehend when a cop says hands up you put your hands up