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  • The Kraken
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    • 12-25-11
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    #281
    Originally posted by packerd_00
    I just have to look around parts of England that arent in the Banking Districts to see the EU hasnt been beneficial to ordinary people. People don't want their towns turning into little Pakistan,would you
    Personally, I don't want to live near too many people that have a lower socioeconomic status than I do, this is why I choose to live where I do. But my line of thinking doesn't apply to a color of person or the nationality of a person, rather just their socioeconomic status. I would choose a neighborhood of middle class black and Muslim families any day of the week over a neighborhood of white trash meth heads.

    So I get your point, I too want a certain level of comfort in my community and a quality of life for my family that I'm willing to pay a premium for, but it's to get me away from the ghetto and whoever inhabits said place.

    I understand this line of thinking opens me up for criticism and that is fine, but it's my reality. I don't want my daughter growing up in the hood where rape and crime is prevalent
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    • packerd_00
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      • 05-22-13
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      #282
      Originally posted by grease lightnin
      Well... all of ours have left for 3rd world countries that have cheap labor. That is globalisation (British spelling) lol
      That's what a lot of folk are worried about,the only ones that want Globalisation are the ones reaping the benefits,these city slickers haven't got a clue what these guys put up with in these smaller areas,aslong as they are alright that's all that matters. Well f@ck it don't work that way.
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      • grease lightnin
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        • 10-01-12
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        #283
        Originally posted by packerd_00
        That's what a lot of folk are worried about,the only ones that want Globalisation are the ones reaping the benefits,these city slickers haven't got a clue what these guys put up with in these smaller areas,aslong as they are alright that's all that matters. Well f@ck it don't work that way.
        I agree it hurts the folks you're describing. But it is twenty years too late to start bitching now. The answer is to get an education--and give your kids an education.
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        • The Kraken
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          #284
          Originally posted by grease lightnin
          I agree it hurts the folks you're describing. But it is twenty years too late to start bitching now. The answer is to get an education--and give your kids an education.
          Absolutely agree. Create a favorable environment for yourself and set your kids up for success. Take personal responsibility for the world you live in and find a way to get where you want. Work harder or work smarter
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          • packerd_00
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            • 05-22-13
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            #285
            Originally posted by The Kraken
            Personally, I don't want to live near too many people that have a lower socioeconomic status than I do, this is why I choose to live where I do. But my line of thinking doesn't apply to a color of person or the nationality of a person, rather just their socioeconomic status. I would choose a neighborhood of middle class black and Muslim families any day of the week over a neighborhood of white trash meth heads.

            So I get your point, I too want a certain level of comfort in my community and a quality of life for my family that I'm willing to pay a premium for, but it's to get me away from the ghetto and whoever inhabits said place.

            I understand this line of thinking opens me up for criticism and that is fine, but it's my reality. I don't want my daughter growing up in the hood where rape and crime is prevalent
            Thats it,you just want to feel safe and comfortable,and you shouldn't have to apologize for it. Thats all these folks want aswell,not have to worry about their daughters becoming some rape gangs next victim,its been more and more common in Northern England,look up Rotherham if you get a chance.
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            • packerd_00
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              • 05-22-13
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              #286
              Originally posted by grease lightnin
              I agree it hurts the folks you're describing. But it is twenty years too late to start bitching now. The answer is to get an education--and give your kids an education.
              Its alright to blame the parents,but these politicans also needed to pull their fingers out and start trying to help these towns out abit.
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              • grease lightnin
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                • 10-01-12
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                #287
                Originally posted by packerd_00
                Its alright to blame the parents,but these politicans also needed to pull their fingers out and start trying to help these towns out abit.
                Restricting trade is not going to help these people. What other purpose does brexit serve? It has already been said that if you want access to the single market you need to accept immigrants...
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                • packerd_00
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                  • 05-22-13
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                  #288
                  Originally posted by grease lightnin
                  Restricting trade is not going to help these people. What other purpose does brexit serve? It has already been said that if you want access to the single market you need to accept immigrants...
                  They felt like they needed to make a change,and they went out and voted,know from what ive been hearing alot of these young voters didnt even bother to get off their ass and vote because they just figured remain would win why bother,just shows you the difference in mindsets.

                  Theirs a lot of countries you can do trade with that aren't in the EU,so why do we need to be held at gunpoint by the EU.
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                  • ACoochy
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                    • 08-19-09
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                    #289
                    Little Britain FTW!!!
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                    • grease lightnin
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                      • 10-01-12
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                      #290
                      Originally posted by packerd_00
                      They felt like they needed to make a change,and they went out and voted,know from what ive been hearing alot of these young voters didnt even bother to get off their ass and vote because they just figured remain would win why bother,just shows you the difference in mindsets.

                      Theirs a lot of countries you can do trade with that aren't in the EU,so why do we need to be held at gunpoint by the EU.


                      I made a post the day after the referendum predicting apathy amongst young people potentially leading to low turnout. I bet if there was a revote, remain would crush
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                      • The Kraken
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                        • 12-25-11
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                        #291
                        I guess we'll have to see the negotiated terms upon the UK's departure

                        Until then, it's all speculation. The trade deficit with the EU is a huge source of debt for the UK, but trading within the EU is also tariff free. And in general, Euro countries that want to have access to the single market must open their borders.

                        I'm sure at one point, everyone thought the USA was crazy for wanting to break from Britain.

                        Maybe your political leadership figure it out and improve Britains position, or maybe they're in over their heads and set you guys back.

                        Until the terms come out, it's anyone's guess
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                        • The Kraken
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                          #292
                          Originally posted by grease lightnin
                          I made a post the day after the referendum predicting apathy amongst young people potentially leading to low turnout. I bet if there was a revote, remain would crush
                          Which is why a simple majority is a scary precedent to set for a vote of such magnitude
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                          • packerd_00
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                            • 05-22-13
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                            #293
                            Originally posted by grease lightnin
                            I made a post the day after the referendum predicting apathy amongst young people potentially leading to low turnout. I bet if there was a revote, remain would crush
                            Whats that old saying you snooze you lose,funny how they are all so interested in their future know eh!
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                            • grease lightnin
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                              • 10-01-12
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                              #294
                              Originally posted by The Kraken
                              Which is why a simple majority is a scary precedent to set for a vote of such magnitude
                              Very true. But maybe a lesson was learned? A referendum on the ballot is the only way we'll ever see term limits
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                              • grease lightnin
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                                • 10-01-12
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                                #295
                                Originally posted by packerd_00
                                Whats that old saying you snooze you lose,funny how they are all so interested in their future know eh!
                                Yes this is true
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                                • chico2663
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                                  • 09-02-10
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                                  #296
                                  Originally posted by brooks85
                                  lol the always petulant alan greenspan's comments were the best as far as being chicken little. Considering his role in the GFC and the fact he completely ignored it when he compared brexit to black monday as the most recent "bad" moment for markets... was honestly just pathetic to watch.



                                  alan greenspan = dick cheney

                                  two fuckups who are too petulant to admit what is a concrete fact; they are penetrate ups



                                  so if alan greenspan is worried about the brexit then that right there should make you feel better
                                  Damn Brooks you actually said something I agreed with. Greenspan should be in jail for his helping reagan rule the world
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                                  • chico2663
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                                    #297
                                    Originally posted by packerd_00
                                    That's what a lot of folk are worried about,the only ones that want Globalisation are the ones reaping the benefits,these city slickers haven't got a clue what these guys put up with in these smaller areas,aslong as they are alright that's all that matters. Well f@ck it don't work that way.
                                    All you have to do is go to youtube and watch anjan choudry, english defense league(tommy robinson or britain first movement. Been watching them for 3 or 4 years. Like tommy robinson but when the skinheads joined the movement than you could tell he was backing away.
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                                    • packerd_00
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                                      • 05-22-13
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                                      #298
                                      Originally posted by chico2663
                                      All you have to do is go to youtube and watch anjan choudry, english defense league(tommy robinson or britain first movement. Been watching them for 3 or 4 years. Like tommy robinson but when the skinheads joined the movement than you could tell he was backing away.
                                      Yeah I know Tommy Robinson mate,he's a very clever guy,alot of the time ive noticed whenever someone has no rebuttable for his arguments they just call him racist,and as he always points out Islam isnt a race its an ideology.

                                      I remember him saying he couldnt keep the Skinheads out anymore so he left.
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                                      • slayer14
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                                        • 08-12-13
                                        • 22007

                                        #299
                                        The Brexit blockers: Bitter losers from all parties gang up to plot to stop Britain's exit from the EU - which was voted for by 17 million people

                                        • British and European politicians are plotting to block UK's exit from the EU
                                        • As Labour went into meltdown, campaign started for a second referendum
                                        • Tony Blair, Nicola Sturgeon, and pro-Remain MPs said rethink was needed
                                        • A top Brussels diplomat has said he thinks the UK will never quit the union


                                        Tony Blair, Nicola Sturgeon, some pro-Remain MPs and a senior German official said a rethink was needed now the consequences of quitting the Brussels club were clear.



                                        Not looking good i wont even bother voting if they have a 2nd it a waste of time
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                                        • ACoochy
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                                          • 08-19-09
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                                          #300
                                          If they had a revote then what's the point of democracy if the wishes of the people won't be adhered to?
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                                          • grease lightnin
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                                            • 10-01-12
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                                            #301
                                            Originally posted by ACoochy
                                            If they had a revote then what's the point of democracy if the wishes of the people won't be adhered to?
                                            A revote would still represent the people's wishes as they would be the ones voting.
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                                            • pavyracer
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                                              • 04-12-07
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                                              #302
                                              Originally posted by ACoochy
                                              If they had a revote then what's the point of democracy if the wishes of the people won't be adhered to?
                                              Congress in the US voted 72 times to repeal Obamacare. You can do a revote and see what happens. If remain wins then do another one later. Best out of 3 wins like sports.
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                                              • ACoochy
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                                                • 08-19-09
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                                                #303

                                                Last edited by ACoochy; 06-27-16, 07:42 AM. Reason: i give up trying to make attachments work on this website
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                                                • ACoochy
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                                                  • 08-19-09
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                                                  #304
                                                  Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                  Congress in the US voted 72 times to repeal Obamacare. You can do a revote and see what happens. If remain wins then do another one later. Best out of 3 wins like sports.
                                                  a vote within congress and a national referendum aren't quite the same thing but I see where you are going with this...
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                                                  • grease lightnin
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                                                    • 10-01-12
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                                                    #305
                                                    Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                    Congress in the US voted 72 times to repeal Obamacare. You can do a revote and see what happens. If remain wins then do another one later. Best out of 3 wins like sports.
                                                    I like this idea
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                                                    • slayer14
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                                                      • 08-12-13
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                                                      #306
                                                      Its getting stupid now the spoilts EU brats are acting childish.

                                                      Au revoir, English? Now French say the language has 'no legitimacy' and should be kicked out of Europe too after Brexit

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                                                      • DwightShrute
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                                                        • 01-17-09
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                                                        #307
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                                                        • packerd_00
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                                                          • 05-22-13
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                                                          #308
                                                          Originally posted by ACoochy
                                                          If they had a revote then what's the point of democracy if the wishes of the people won't be adhered to?
                                                          We aren't having a revote mate,alot of the signatures were fake,a bunch of them were from Vatican City.
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                                                          • packerd_00
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                                                            #309
                                                            I love how Americans are deciding for us,that is rich.
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                                                            • brooks85
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                                                              • 01-05-09
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                                                              #310
                                                              lol they just showed some millennial UK boy arguing with an old man. The old man was telling him about sour grapes because the young one was bitching that the young people didn't want this so, of course, the old man logically replied that the votes say otherwise. The young guy replied well the polls said so!


                                                              votes>polls

                                                              too penetrating funny
                                                              Last edited by brooks85; 06-27-16, 12:29 PM.
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                                                              • packerd_00
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                                                                • 05-22-13
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                                                                #311
                                                                Originally posted by brooks85
                                                                lol they just showed some millineal UK boy arguing with an old man. The old man was telling him about sour grapes because the young one was bitching that the young people didn't want this so, of course, the old man logically replied that the votes say otherwise. The young guy replied well the polls said so!


                                                                votes>polls

                                                                too penetrating funny
                                                                These young voters are an embarassement,they think their so f@cking clever. Trump a buisness tycoon that has made more money then all of these shit heads put together agreed the leave vote was the right move.
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                                                                • brooks85
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                                                                  • 01-05-09
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                                                                  #312
                                                                  Originally posted by packerd_00
                                                                  These young voters are an embarassement,they think their so f@cking clever. Trump a buisness tycoon that has made more money then all of these shit heads put together agreed the leave vote was the right move.



                                                                  yeah, I can only imagine since I'm not from there but that is also the advantage of not being in the forest as the saying goes so to me it is obvious exit was the right decision long-run.


                                                                  I read some other millennial's post on how there are 27 countries now where people from UK can't form new friendships and marriages... lol


                                                                  so you're a millennial and that is what is you're worried about longrun? .... get your head out of your ass.
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                                                                  • packerd_00
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                                                                    • 05-22-13
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                                                                    #313
                                                                    Originally posted by brooks85
                                                                    yeah, I can only imagine since I'm not from there but that is also the advantage of not being in the forest as the saying goes so to me it is obvious exit was the right decision long-run.


                                                                    I read some other millennial's post on how there are 27 countries now where people from UK can't form new friendships and marriages... lol


                                                                    so you're a millennial and that is what is you're worried about longrun? .... get your head out of your ass.
                                                                    The Muslim expansion is getting out of control,people are starting to wise up,we were never going to get another chance to get out of the EU,this was for keeps.

                                                                    The Millenials don't have any really sensible reasons for staying as you pointed,its that give love a chance mentality that is the problem.
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                                                                    • brooks85
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                                                                      • 01-05-09
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                                                                      #314
                                                                      Originally posted by packerd_00
                                                                      The Muslim expansion is getting out of control,people are starting to wise up,we were never going to get another chance to get out of the EU,this was for keeps.
                                                                      The Millenials don't have any really sensible reasons for staying as you pointed,its that give love a chance mentality that is the problem.



                                                                      yeah, it is mainly just sad that people of any country don't think native born who spent their life paying in don't deserve services before immigrants who don't even want to assimilate. I hope the majority of Americans are as smart as you English. I'm counting on Hillary doing most of the work come debate time.
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                                                                      • packerd_00
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                                                                        • 05-22-13
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                                                                        #315
                                                                        Originally posted by brooks85
                                                                        yeah, it is mainly just sad that people of any country don't think native born who spent their life paying in don't deserve services before immigrants who don't even want to assimilate. I hope the majority of Americans are as smart as you English. I'm counting on Hillary doing most of the work come debate time.

                                                                        Yep exactly,also are grandfathers fought to keep us safe from the Nazis and its almost like it was all for nothing. I think enough Americans are waking up and smelling the coffee,I wish you all the best,Trump has a lot of supporters over here know.
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