Time to start fading Jake Arrieta

[d2bets]

So I'm to understand...

1. He was getting off the juice; and
2. He turned down a big contract looking for more later.

?

Don't you think he would have cashed in?

Every pitcher goes through rough patches. I think I'll wait before burying a guy who still has the 3rd best ERA in the NL as we speak.

[The Kraken]

Archie how much did you make on this?

[slayer14]

Cubs coach should have taken him out of game when it was 4-3

[No coincidences]

[Chi_archie]

15 earned runs in last 16 innings


baltimore orioles version jake Arrieta wlcome back!

[packerd_00]

F@ckin Cubs,this pitching staff is atrocious.

[TheMartian]

Cubs fans here in Chicago are freaking out!!

They thought Jake was gonna be Bob Gibson circa 1968 for the rest of his career.

Love that he wanted a big 7 year extension this past off season

They Dodged a massive bullet

unless they can find his Roid dealer connect who has now gone MIA

[Itsamazing777]

cubs future bettors trembling

[l7ustin]

is Archie the best capper on this forum

[Itsamazing777]

To be fair this thread was started way before he became bad Wayyyy before
Just natural regression

[TheMartian]

True Archie called this in May

[BaseballChaser]

Cubs will turn it around. But have been fading them since those bloated lines against the Cardinals. They'll go on another tear at some point, but you have to keep picking against them especially at +odds until they get it together.

[TheMartian]

Vegas is inflating them like crazy constantly putting them -200+ even on the road

This Baseball nobody should pay that kinda juice unless you wanna get buried

[d2bets]

Cubs were barely over .500 late July last season and then went on tear to end with 97 wins. Way ahead of last year's pace. It's a long season. Rough stretches are almost always inevitable.

[pavyracer]

Cubs pitching will magically be fixed shortly. Sammy Sosa will be bringing some top notch juice from DR.

[d2bets]

Cubs pitching will magically be fixed shortly. Sammy Sosa will be bringing some top notch juice from DR.

Cubs still lead MLB in ERA. Just in a rough stretch. Every team has them.

[BaseballChaser]

Cubs still lead MLB in ERA. Just in a rough stretch. Every team has them.

Agree. Except Hammel is awful and they'll need to get bullpen help.

[TheMartian]

Cubs still lead MLB in ERA. Just in a rough stretch. Every team has them.

It's all about pitching staffs in the Majors and the Cubs were riding the Arrieta juice train before the Roid supplier went missing

The rest of their pitching staff is absolute garbage and unless Arrieta gets a new Roid supplier soon this team is going nowhere

[pavyracer]

Cubs ERA the last 30 games is astronomical. I wonder if other teams figured pitching sequences and are sitting on strikes to hammer.

[Roscoe_Word]

What goes up must come down (except for Kershaw). What a betting run this guy had though. Maybe Bumgarner is another.

[Chi_archie]

To be fair this thread was started way before he became bad Wayyyy before
Just natural regression

way early???
In my book I was two weeks early.

If if you bet a flat $100 against the Cubs in ever game Jake started from May 14 when I started the thread and Arrieta spanked the Pirates?

you'd be up $476

if you waited two weeks and faded Jake from May 26 on?

you'd be up $1,076

I called it when I did, due to expectibg that regression Due to common sense in the HUGE innings jump/workload Jake had last year... We saw the effects of that in his last two starts of the playoffs this led to vigilance and watching game closely for signs of fatigue by using my amateur pitching coaching eyes each game watching back on DVR. But really it was looking at fan graphs stats and pitchf/x info.
In April I also started going to a new bar quite a bit to find a 2nd local. At this bar there are at least 6 regular patrons that work for the Cubs. 3 of which I talk to frequently and get info from. Mostly it's just fun gossip but I did hear some interesting info regarding Jake, David Ross, Heyward, and Addison Russell that i've used to play for or against Cubs or at least modify unit sizes.

[pavyracer]

One of the best calls in the history of SBR by Archie. He must have inside information or noticed something in his delivery no one else did.

[Brock Landers]

The entire Staff/Team is in FREE FALL

I'm happy to see it, too many idiots strutting around saying they already will make the WS

[pavyracer]

Brock doesn't like Cubs to win WS. You know what to do now boys.

[ACoochy]

Archie called it

May have been a little premature but I'm sure there's medications that will clear that right up...

[jjgold]

The Cubs have zero shot to win the World Series or even get their Washington or to Mets a tremendous lock

[ByeShea]

The Cubs have zero shot to win the World Series or even get their Washington or to Mets a tremendous lock

Nats > Mets .... Daniel Murphy all the difference in the world.

After Murphy established himself as a team legend and Met fan favorite, the Mets did not even pursue him in the offseason? Why, you ask?
Because of what one Dilson Herrera might become some day. Currently Mr. Herrera is batting .278 in AAA, while Murphy is 2nd in NL batting average and 5 HRs/16 RBIs against the Mets alone so far this year.

Nats vs. Cubs vs. ? vs. not Mets ... looking forward to another epic NL postseason.

[Chi_archie]

Shea, I think the Why also included being able to get Neil Walker for less years and less $ and be able to unload Niese's contract essentially being able to pay walker with The $ they would have paid Nies.

walker is younger and had a bit better history overall as well.

hindsight can be 20-20 but the whole picture is not in the past just yet.

[jjgold]

I think the Cubs will stick with your manager until the end of the year and then fire him

[ByeShea]

Shea, I think the Why also included being able to get Neil Walker for less years and less $ and be able to unload Niese's contract essentially being able to pay walker with The $ they would have paid Nies.

walker is younger and had a bit better history overall as well.

hindsight can be 20-20 but the whole picture is not in the past just yet.

Zobrist is who the Mets wanted, no secret there, and didn't even come close signing him. The effort was public and clumsy. They offered Murphy a plate of poop and he was already on Washington when they got Walker, which was fairly lucky in itself. Unplanned.

If the Cubs brass really wanted to they could find a baseball rationale to jettison Anthony Rizzo that selected media and robo-fans would support. They really could - most fans wouldn't buy into it, but in theory it could happen. Mets justification of letting Murphy walk was BS and rank-and-file fans said so and were upset.

As Murphy continues to abuse the Mets (4 RBIs yesterday, Wash 6, NYM 1) I was thinking about the offseason and how often it was explained in the media how he did not fit into the Mets plans.

Guy is 31, signed a contract that any team in the majors could have executed, and has 64 RBIs already this season. But Mets had no room for him. And besides, what did he ever do for that team anyway?

[Chi_archie]

No Walker was traded on Dec 9, I remember because it's my nephews b day and Neil is his favorite player and he lives in Neil's hometown so h was heart broken on us b day

murph signed on Christmas Eve, two weeks later

mets offered hm poop because they wanted to get the compensation draft pick

[d2bets]

I think the Cubs will stick with your manager until the end of the year and then fire him

The odds of Joe Maddon being fired before next season is 0.

[pavyracer]

The odds of Joe Maddon being fired before next season is 0.

If he misses the playoffs this year he is out. Would be embarrassing to keep him.

[d2bets]

If he misses the playoffs this year he is out. Would be embarrassing to keep him.

I'll repeat: Joe Maddon is not getting fired. They gave him a ton of money and he's a great manager. Theo is not a panic type of GM.

Girardi has missed the playoffs 3 straight seasons and headed for another and he's still in the saddle.

[pavyracer]

An epic collapse will warrant firing. You are the preseason favorite to win WS and you are leading the NLC by 20 games and miss playoffs with your starting pitching intact.

They will fire everyone if this actually happens.