And there's the 5-2. Addison Russell is a budding star.
Time to start fading Jake Arrieta
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d2betsBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#71Comment -
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#72most of us have the runline we're not gonna be happy with 5-4Originally posted by mikmikI hope Cubs win, 5-4 so we're all happy.Comment -
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#73Oh OK. Well I justjust have Cubs mlComment -
iloseagainRestricted User
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#746-2 i love it haha..Comment -
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#75I don't even look at Cubs lines anymore. They're like the Warriors, not point in fading them.Comment -
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#76That.Originally posted by smitch124Had to get off the juice for an upcoming test?
I had a good laugh watching a baseball analyst explain arrieta turning from an expendable journeyman starter into an unprecedented pitching phenomenon at the age of 30 - "a light went on".
That must be some potent wisdom Jake suddenly found.Comment -
d2betsBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#77He was never a journeyman. He has only been in 2 organizations -- Balt and Chi. He was touted as a future Balt ace and was an opening day starter in Balt. He was inconsistent and went through some injuries. But he was always described as having great stuff and velocity and din't bounce around, so to describe him as a journeyman is asinine. He is certainly not the first pitcher to come into himself in his late 20's. And with what we've learned about how Balt treated him, it's not surprising. The light didn't come on , it was more like the shackles were taken off and he finally had support from his coaches. He began to turn it around pretty much as soon as he got out of Baltimore.Originally posted by ByeSheaThat.
I had a good laugh watching a baseball analyst explain arrieta turning from an expendable journeyman starter into an unprecedented pitching phenomenon - "a light went on".
That's some explanation, some light.Comment -
iloseagainRestricted User
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#78Originally posted by iloseagain8-1 final today
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#79Originally posted by Smokestop
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#80<iframe width="100%" height="160" src="https://clyp.it/yyobfgf2/widget" frameborder="0"></iframe>Comment -
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#81Sorry JJ
This was humbling
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iloseagainRestricted User
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#82guy pitched 8 innings. Gave up 2 runs on 3 hits in ONE inning and literally did not give up a hit in the other 7. Yea hes really going downhill. I could be wrong, but im pretty sure this is pretty damn accurate if its not 100% correctComment -
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#83Archie works for the booksOriginally posted by iloseagainguy pitched 8 innings. Gave up 2 runs on 3 hits in ONE inning and literally did not give up a hit in the other 7. Yea hes really going downhill. I could be wrong, but im pretty sure this is pretty damn accurate if its not 100% correctComment -
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#84lol.. people also seem to forget that the cubs have a top 2 offense in baseball.. Arrieta can have a "bad" game (aka 3-4 ER) and still win 8-4. If you want to fade him, dont do it against Locke. Do it against someone who at least can get people out. Hes terrible.Originally posted by SmokeArchie works for the booksComment -
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#85Locke is trashOriginally posted by iloseagainlol.. people also seem to forget that the cubs have a top 2 offense in baseball.. Arrieta can have a "bad" game (aka 3-4 ER) and still win 8-4. If you want to fade him, dont do it against Locke. Do it against someone who at least can get people out. Hes terrible.Comment -
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#86yeah Russell is starting to heat upOriginally posted by d2betsAnd there's the 5-2. Addison Russell is a budding star.Comment -
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#87Looks like Arrieta's next start will be in SF against Samardzija. Shark been good lately. That game shouldn't be a huge road line. I'd guess Arrieta -140 or so with a very small total, like 6.5.Comment -
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#88Anyone think Arrieta can get to 30 wins?Comment -
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#89lolOriginally posted by astro61200Anyone think Arrieta can get to 30 wins?
nobody will ever win 30 again, but we can discuss 25 as a possible target. But with an eye on the playoffs, the Cubs won't let him start 33 again. Probably like 31 starts.Comment -
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#90Originally posted by astro61200Anyone think Arrieta can get to 30 wins?
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#91Lke I said , no....
Lmao ughh
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#92Yankees (Tanaka)Originally posted by Chi_archieSorry JJ
This was humbling
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#93Another easy RL win with Arrieta on the mound.. betting on him is about as close to printing money as you can get. Payday comes again on Wednesday.Comment -
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#94Time to start fading lol
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#95SF can rallyComment -
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#96Arrieta was actually hit pretty hard last night. The defense saved his bacon on multiple occasions.
Aside from being really good, he's one of the luckiest pitchers I've ever seen, too.Comment -
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#97Correct me if I'm wrong but I think they showed a stat last night that Arrieta is batting 5 for 11 this year with RISP too. 4 RBIs on the year including that 440ft bomb against Arizona
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#98He's not even the luckiest pitcher in Chicago this year. In fact, by the numbers, he's the 4th luckiest starting pitcher in Chicago behind Sale, Lester, and Latos.Originally posted by No coincidencesArrieta was actually hit pretty hard last night. The defense saved his bacon on multiple occasions.
Aside from being really good, he's one of the luckiest pitchers I've ever seen, too.Comment -
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#99Archie your hurting us
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#100Originally posted by jjgoldArchie your hurting us
explanation?
- dunno what was said but i'm riding the train so long as its going
Sale, Arrieta, Kershaw have been locks this yr
I'll consider playing a few others based upon the match up
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#101You see what you want to see.Originally posted by No coincidencesArrieta was actually hit pretty hard last night. The defense saved his bacon on multiple occasions.
Aside from being really good, he's one of the luckiest pitchers I've ever seen, too.Comment -
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#102Archie don't do itComment -
astro61200SBR MVP
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#103BABIP is really low, so he won't be THIS good all season but his FIP is still 2.50, still averaging more than 2 GBs for every FB. He's received 63 runs of RS in 9 starts (7 runs per game). His velocity is still pretty much the same on all his pitches. His ERA+ is 314.Originally posted by No coincidencesArrieta was actually hit pretty hard last night. The defense saved his bacon on multiple occasions.
Aside from being really good, he's one of the luckiest pitchers I've ever seen, too.
Could, easily, see his BABIP climb with a single bad start (he is human after all). His peripherals are pretty much in line with 2015 and 2014.
No reason to hop off the train, it might have a couple of bumps this year but it's as close to a sure thing as there is right now. Could easily see him winning another Cy Young, getting around 25-27 W's, and the Cubs going something like 30-2 in games he starts, along with 25-7 against the RL.
Oh, and his FIP last night was 1.66.Comment -
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#104Here is his line over the past 365 days (as of May 23rd, since he wont start before then):
34 starts, 26-2 record, 240 IP, 141 H, 56 BB (0.82 WHIP), 10 HR, 38 ER (45 R), 244 Ks, 9.15 K/9, 2.10 BB/9, 0.37 HR/9, .224 BABIP, 1.42 ERA, 2.42 FIP, 2.70 xFIP.
Put the cutoff at July '15 to now and here's what you get:
27 starts, 23-1 record, 194 IP, 102 H, 45 BB (0.76 WHIP), 4 HR, 22 ER (26 R), 196 Ks, 9.09 K/9, 2.09 BB/9, 0.19 HR/9, .209 BABIP, 1.02 ERA, 2.14 FIP, 2.61 xFIP
So why would someone fade him again? If the dude doesn't give up an earned run in his next start his ERA over the past 28 starts will be BELOW 1. That's fkn insane. ERA doesn't mean a whole lot but when you're talking about sub-1 over 28 starts it does, could be the best run by a SP in the HISTORY of the MLB.
If he keeps this, or close to this, up for the year then he should be the MVP, hands down.
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#105Composure is something FIP will never account for.Comment
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