Donald Trump To Run For President in 2016!!!!!!!!

[Otters27]

His odds of becoming Republican nominee remain steady. His odds of winning Presidency are falling. Why? Because the numbers and demographics are awfully clear. The informed can see how this shakes out. If Hillary vs. Trump were to happen today, Trump loses in a historic blowout. Trump will have to somehow pull off changing his stripes, despite all he the evidence that he has no ability change his stripes.

Odds on Betfair for Repub Nom. have gone from 1.37 to 1.44 since Tuesday.

[brooks85]

What your saying does not matter.Because the US is comparable to the rest of the world when it comes to corporate tax. So lowering them more will not bring jobs back to the US. It never has & it never will.

even though what you said is incorrect I'll entertain your poor logic.

you say the corporate tax rate is comparable to the rest of the world huh?(not true, but lets pretend it is so I can still show why you're wrong)


ok... you go into a store and you find 10 items with a "comparable" price. You pick one. You come back later and now 9 of those items have a "comparable price" and 1 is on sale. According to your logic no one will have any interest in the one on sale.


The corporate tax rate must be lowered, very basic stuff.

[d2bets]

Odds on Betfair for Repub Nom. have gone from 1.37 to 1.44 since Tuesday.

I watch it daily. It moved into that 1.42 to 1.44 range a few days ago. But I have seen with Trump at 1.43/1.45 nomination at the exact time he's gone from 4.9 to 5.5 to win.

[DwightShrute]

d2bets, khicks and Australian beaver boy aka achoochy (and anyone else that wants to chime in),

We all know you aren't the biggest Trump supporters.

What do you think about this Black Lives Matter guy and what he said in this video?

full interview --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqORjy7RFBU

[khicks26]

even though what you said is incorrect I'll entertain your poor logic.

you say the corporate tax rate is comparable to the rest of the world huh?(not true, but lets pretend it is so I can still show why you're wrong)


ok... you go into a store and you find 10 items with a "comparable" price. You pick one. You come back later and now 9 of those items have a "comparable price" and 1 is on sale. According to your logic no one will have any interest in the one on sale.


The corporate tax rate must be lowered, very basic stuff.

Look Reagan cut the rates to 33%. Since then they have added deductions, exemptions, loopholes, subsidizes & what ever else to make it easy for corporations to make money in the US. Has the wages increased, are there more jobs, it the economy booming. NO, lowering corporate tax rates does not create jobs. Its a lie.

Your comparison of items for sale & corporate tax rates is not the same thing. They really have nothing to do with each other.

[brooks85]

Look Reagan cut the rates to 33%. Since then they have added deductions, exemptions, loopholes, subsidizes & what ever else to make it easy for corporations to make money in the US. Has the wages increased, are there more jobs, it the economy booming. NO, lowering corporate tax rates does not create jobs. Its a lie.

Your comparison of items for sale & corporate tax rates is not the same thing. They really have nothing to do with each other.

I agree, what you're talking about is a lie, and that is why I should have been more clear but I think trump has beat the drum enough. You're right, none of it will matter if tax laws are not changed. I didn't state that because I would have thought it went hand-in-hand when talking about trump's policies...

so yes, the corp tax rate needs lowered. Basic stuff.

[khicks26]

I agree and what is why I should have been more clear but I think trump has beat the drum enough. You're right, none of it will matter if tax laws are not changed. I didn't state that because I would have thought it went hand-in-hand when talking about trump's policies.

Dude I asked how will Trump create jobs. You said lowering corporate tax rates is one of his ways to do it.

So now your saying you agree that its a lie?

[brooks85]

Dude I asked how will Trump create jobs. You said lowering corporate tax rates is one of his ways to do it.

So now your saying you agree that its a lie?

which is correct.

And goes back to what you said "same stuff since the 80s" which is incorrect and why you had to bring up the "effective" rate which you clearly do not understand. We have now gone full circle.

[d2bets]

Many states now require passengers in automobiles to wear seatbelts for their own protection. Many others require anybody driving a car to have li a bility insurance. But neither the federal government nor any state requires all households to protect themselves from the potentially catastrophic costs of a serious accident or illness. Under the Heritage plan, there would be such a requirement. This man d ate is based on two important principles. First, that health care protection is a responsibility of individuals, not businesses. Thus to the extent that anybody should be required to provide coverage to a family, the household mandate assumes that it is t h e family that carries the first responsibility. Second, it assumes that there is an implicit contract between households and society, based on the notion that health insurance is not like other forms of insurance protection. If a young man wrecks his Pors c he and has not had the foresight to obtain insurance, we may commiserate but society feels no obligation to repair his car. But health care is different. If a man is struck down by a heart attack in the street, Americans will care for him whether or not h e has insurance. If we find that he has spent his money on other things rather than insurance, we may be angry but we will not deny him services - even if that means more prudent citizens end up paying the tab. A mandate on individuals recognizes this implicit contract. Society does feel a moral obligation to insure that its citizens do not suffer from the unavailability of health care. But on the other hand, each household has the obligation, to the extent it is able, to avoid placing demands on society by protecting itself. 3) Provide help to those who cannot afford protection. A mandate on households certainly would force those with adequate means to obtain insurance protection, which would end the problem of middle-class "free riders" on society's sense o f obligation. But of course there are many lower-income households who could not reasonably afford to meet that obligation and yet are not eligible for current direct assistance programs such as Medicaid. Tax Credits. To an extent, the problems of afforda b ility among these families would be dealt with through the system of tax credits outlined above. The Heritage plan also sees these tax credits as refundable - that is, a check would be sent to the family if the total credit exceeded the tax liability. In t his way, families would receive direct assistance through the tax code to enable them to ftilfill the obligation to obtain insurance. Nevertheless, there are certain families for whom even this assistance is not sufficient. Families with a very long histo r y of health problems, for instance, may find insurance prohibitively expensive, even with generous tax benefits. In these cases, the Heritage plan envisions an expansion of subsidized risk pools operated through the states. Many states have these plans, i n which high-risk individuals are pooled together, and then insurers are invited to compete to cover the pool with rates subsidized by the government.

http://www.heritage.org/research/lecture/assuring-affordable-health-care-for-all-americans

Obamacare is based very very closely on The Heritage Plan, not on Hillary's Plan.

Take a look at the bolded language. The Donald probably read this. And it's also probably why he said he favored a mandate, even though the next day he denied he ever said it.

[khicks26]

d2bets, khicks and Australian beaver boy aka achoochy (and anyone else that wants to chime in),

We all know you aren't the biggest Trump supporters.

What do you think about this Black Lives Matter guy and what he said in this video?

full interview --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqORjy7RFBU

Trump is singling out groups of people & saying they are the cause of a problem which they really have nothing to do with.

Just like Hitler said the Jews were Germany's biggest problem. He's picking on the most vulnerable to advance his cause. That's racism. BLM guy misspoke, but he is in the ball park.

[khicks26]

which is correct.

And goes back to what you said "same stuff since the 80s" which is incorrect and why you had to bring up the "effective" rate which you clearly do not understand. We have now gone full circle.

Yes we have, & lowering corporate tax rates still does not create jobs, & never will.

[DwightShrute]

Trump is singling out groups of people & saying they are the cause of a problem which they really have nothing to do with.

Just like Hitler said the Jews were Germany's biggest problem. He picking on the most vulnerable to advance his cause. That's racism. BLM guy misspoke, but he is in the ball park.

my goodness. He never misspoke. He's lying on purpose to create hatred where there is none. That closer to racism than anything Trump has ever said. Hermain Cain gets it and so does Kelly.

Less Young Turks and more fresh air my friend

[khicks26]

my goodness. He never misspoke. He's lying on purpose to create hatred where there is none. That closer to racism than anything Trump has ever said. Hermain Cain gets it and so does Kelly.

Less Young Turks and more fresh air my friend

Dude Mexicans are rapist & murders. Lets build a wall. Is the same way Hitler used the Jews, stabbed him in the back.

That's racism, what BLM guy said is being a bigot.

[larco15]

Trump is singling out groups of people & saying they are the cause of a problem which they really have nothing to do with.

Lol. It´s funny you should say this. Another day, another day of muslims blowing people to pieces in Turkey. And what happened just a few days ago in Turkey? You don´t have to have half a brain to see what has been going on in Europe. Suicide bombings, explosions, beheadings, social strife, rapes, the destruction of European culture and on and on. All because of the inclusion of Islam. You can deny the facts and put your head in the sand, but this is just the beginning.

[brooks85]

Yes we have, & lowering corporate tax rates still does not create jobs, & never will.

False, False and False.

[khicks26]

Lol. It´s funny you should say this. Another day, another day of muslims blowing people to pieces in Turkey. And what happened just a few days ago in Turkey? You don´t have to have half a brain to see what has been going on in Europe. Suicide bombings, explosions, beheadings, social strife, rapes, the destruction of European culture and on and on. All because of the inclusion of Islam. You can deny the facts and put your head in the sand, but this is just the beginning.

Please tell me why these thing are happening?

[khicks26]

False, False and False.

You have no proof, because there is none.

[brooks85]

^yeah except for what I used to prove you're wrong... lol


The tax cuts of the 80s are NOTHING like what trump is talking about which is exactly why you had to ask for the effective rate.

Please tell me why these thing are happening?

^he honestly doesn't have a clue. Khicks literally thinks the problems started even this century lol

[DwightShrute]

Dude Mexicans are rapist & murders. Lets build a wall. Is the same way Hitler used the Jews, stabbed him in the back.

That's racism, what BLM guy said is being a bigot.

that isn't racism at all. Illegal immigrants aren't a race. If they were WHITE ILLEGALS coming across the border, no one would call it racist. But because they aren't white, then you throw the word out? It makes no sense at all. I'll respectfully say that you don't know the meaning of racist.

He never called all Mexicans rapist and murders which we all know. Funny, when people criticize Obama, they are deemed racist also. Just because he's black. If he were white, they couldn't use the race card. Too bad you can't see this. Or better yet, refuse to see it.

It has nothing to do with Jews or Hitler. That's a weak minded argument perpetuated by liars like The Young turks. Turn that shit off bro. Its come down to this basically .... if you disagree with liberals (mostly liberals) then you are racist. lol.

[khicks26]

^he honestly doesn't have a clue. Khicks literally thinks the problems started even this century lol

OH are you going to tell us about wooden ships & pirates again. I love this story please continue.

[brooks85]

OH are you going to tell us about wooden ships & pirates again. I love this story please continue.

yeah, I know youtubeU isn't concerned with history but most other people are especially when discussing the root of a problem. Think before you post.

[khicks26]

that isn't racism at all. Illegal immigrants aren't a race. If they were WHITE ILLEGALS coming across the border, no one would call it racist. But because they aren't white, then you throw the word out? It make no sense at all. I'll respectfully say that you don't know the meaning of racist.

He never called all Mexicans rapist and murders which we all know. Funny, when people criticize Obama, they are deemed racist also. Just because he's black. If he were white, they couldn't use the race card. Too bad you can't see this. Or better yet, refuse to see it.

It has nothing to do with Jews or Hitler. That's a weak minded argument perpetuated by liars like The Young turks. Turn that shit off bro.

Yes it is racism, he's talking about Mexican's. Think about the word for a minute. "race-ism" I'm not saying he is Hitler, but what he's doing is Hitler like.

Yes if it was white people it would not be racist, just like people of color can not be racist in the US. But it would still be wrong to blame white people crossing the border as a problem of those people.

[khicks26]

yeah, I know youtubeU isn't concerned with history but most other people are especially when discussing the root of a problem. Think before you post.

Your not to concerned with history yourself. That's why you only use it when it fits your needs. LOL

[DwightShrute]

Yes it is racism, he's talking about Mexican's. Think about the word for a minute. "race-ism" I'm not saying he is Hitler, but what he's doing is Hitler like.

Yes if it was white people it would not be racist, just like people of color can not be racist. But it would still be wrong to blame white people crossing the border as a problem of those people.

you are completely wrong. Its not racism. He is talking about illegals. The fact they are coming across the Mexican border illegally is only pointing out geography and doesn't make anyone racist who is against that. Once again, illegals isn't a race and neither is geography.

People of color cannot be racist? Omg. I am afraid to ask.

[brooks85]

Yes it is racism, he's talking about Mexican's. Think about the word for a minute. "race-ism" I'm not saying he is Hitler, but what he's doing is Hitler like.

Yes if it was white people it would not be racist, just like people of color can not be racist. But it would still be wrong to blame white people crossing the border as a problem of those people.

... you're an idiot(not name calling)

[larco15]

Please tell me why these thing are happening?

You have demonstrated over and over again that you deny reality. I already put the answer to your question in my prior post. To be frank, you are on the same intellectual level as those who perpetrated the Charlie Hebdo because of a cartoon. With your line of reasoning I would not find it odd that you somehow reasoned that that cartoon killing was justified.

[Maximo]

^It sure could be in the courts for a while, thankfully we have plenty of time, and the government will win if they want just a small portion of the land on the border.







I certainly hope so and, of course, it will be effective. That is why walls have been used for millennia. Are the walls of your house effective?

So we are comparing house walls and wall between countries. What did you smoke? I wanna get the same level.

[khicks26]

you are completely wrong. Its not racism. He is talking about illegals. The fact they are coming across the Mexican border illegally is only pointing out geography and doesn't make anyone racist who is against that. Once again, illegals isn't a race and neither is geography.

People of color cannot be racist? Omg. I am afraid to ask.

Yes Mexicans crossing the border & deporting 11 million in the country already. Yes people of color can not be racist in the US. They do not hold power & are not the majority. Don't confuse the word racist with bigot.

[brooks85]

^this just shows anyone who cares to notice how truly brainwashed this guy is

So we are comparing house walls and wall between countries. What did you smoke? I wanna get the same level.

is there a difference in their effectiveness?

[khicks26]

You have demonstrated over and over again that you deny reality. I already put the answer to your question in my prior post. To be frank, you are on the same intellectual level as those who perpetrated the Charlie Hebdo because of a cartoon. With your line of reasoning I would not find it odd that you somehow reasoned that that cartoon killing was justified.

No what those guys did was wrong, just like terror is wrong.

I just asked you to tell why those people are committing the terror. How is that denying reality. Plus were posting on SBR, how many of us are intellectuals, as far as I know Brooks is the only SBR intellectual & that's meant to be a joke.

[khicks26]

^this just shows anyone who cares to notice how truly brainwashed this guy is



is there a difference in their effectiveness?

OK SBR intellectual. I'm sure you know all about being black or brown.

[d2bets]

^this just shows anyone who cares to notice how truly brainwashed this guy is



is there a difference in their effectiveness?

Yes, and it's 'there', not 'their'.

House walls prevent weather occurrences from destroying your stuff and killing you.

[khicks26]

^yeah except for what I used to prove you're wrong... lol


The tax cuts of the 80s are NOTHING like what trump is talking about which is exactly why you had to ask for the effective rate.

No I asked for the effective rate because its just like other countries, & you are lying when you say US rates are to high compared to other countries.

Also you still have no proof & trying to confuse the topic will not work.

[Kermit]

Just seen the live video of Trump protesters shutting down the interstate in Arizona. This is ridiculous.

[brooks85]

Yes, and it's 'there', not 'their'.

House walls prevent weather occurrences from destroying your stuff and killing you.

then don't ever read khicks' posts lol

d2bets doing what he does best;