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  • d2bets
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    #5041
    Originally posted by DwightShrute
    “Yeah I guess so,” Trump responded. “I wish the first time it was done correctly.”

    Big deal. It was spur of the moment comment. Nothing definite like ... "for sure" or "completely". One "I GUESS so" comment. That's all. Many people thought like that way back then and changed their mind. Non story.
    But he claimed to have this impeccable judgment because he claimed he was always against it. Full of shit.
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    • Dr.Gonzo
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      • 12-05-09
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      #5042
      Originally posted by khicks26
      Yeah which became Al Qaeda in Iraq, which became ISIS. Who are the leaders of ISIS, bureaucrats & generals from Iraq. No doubt were arming ISIS, I just don't know how much of it has to do with Obama or the MIC. More than likely some of both, I just can;t say for sure. But their also funded by Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar, I have even heard Israel, & others.

      Your boy in the vid is full of shit. It never was about bring democracy to anyone. If fact why are the American people funding a war in the Middle East to bring them democracy (which is total BS) that we don't have. Its about money, power, oil, & geopolitical strategy. Democracy LOL
      So, I imagined the Arab Spring and the support from the left and media. I think it was bullshit but that was the narrative.

      Explain to me the geopolitical strategy.
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      • Andy117
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        • 02-07-10
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        #5043
        Originally posted by Dr.Gonzo
        When the border is secured and social degeneration has begun to be reversed.

        European peoples have always shown a fondness for nature.


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        • d2bets
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          #5044
          Originally posted by brooks85
          lol cooper just did a "just for the record" yet didn't do it on the buzzfeed report
          The buzzfeed report is simply his interview on 9/11/02 with Stern. It's right there on audio. Like what he said on abortion to Russert. It's his own words and he said what he said.

          Trump is the lakerboy of the election. He's always right because he's taken every side of every issue at one time or another. But it's all OK because he wasn't a politician and he's the most brilliant mind that ever existed.
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          • DwightShrute
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            • 01-17-09
            • 103174

            #5045
            Originally posted by d2bets
            But he claimed to have this impeccable judgment because he claimed he was always against it. Full of shit.
            geez you sound desperate.

            waiter: Mr. Trump "Will you have the Chicken again tonight?"
            Trump: I guess so
            waiter: very well sir
            Trump: Actually, I am going to have the fish.

            Maybe you can find a recording of that.

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            • Dr.Gonzo
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              • 12-05-09
              • 4660

              #5046
              Fail.

              A multicultural shithole, this is the kind of society that you desire.
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              • d2bets
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                #5047
                There are no interviews with Trump in 2003 against the war. It wasn't until more than a year after the war was a failure, in 2004, that he came out against it. It's like switching your pick in the 4th quarter and then claiming you're the greatest handicapper. A total fraud.

                I don't give a shit, most everyone was for it, fine, he can change his mind. But just don't be a fukkin liar about it. He's now caught in his lie and he'll move the goalpost.

                He'll probably threaten to sue buzzfeed for repeating his interview.
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                • khicks26
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                  • 09-16-06
                  • 45604

                  #5048
                  Originally posted by Dr.Gonzo
                  So, I imagined the Arab Spring and the support from the left and media. I think it was bullshit but that was the narrative.

                  Explain to me the geopolitical strategy.
                  Sorry not going lay out the Middle East strategy. I may as well write a book. Yes the US used the Arab Spring to destabilize the region. Once again with promises of democracy. I wonder how many of the Neo-Cons were involved in that.
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                  • DwightShrute
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                    • 01-17-09
                    • 103174

                    #5049
                    Originally posted by d2bets
                    There are no interviews with Trump in 2003 against the war. It wasn't until more than a year after the war was a failure, in 2004, that he came out against it. It's like switching your pick in the 4th quarter and then claiming you're the greatest handicapper. A total fraud.

                    I don't give a shit, most everyone was for it, fine, he can change his mind. But just don't be a fukkin liar about it. He's now caught in his lie and he'll move the goalpost.
                    3 posts about it already.

                    No you don't give a shit.
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                    • Dr.Gonzo
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                      • 12-05-09
                      • 4660

                      #5050
                      Originally posted by khicks26
                      Sorry not going lay out the Middle East strategy. I may as well write a book. Yes the US used the Arab Spring to destabilize the region. Once again with promises of democracy. I wonder how many of the Neo-Cons were involved in that.
                      Give me the cliff notes, I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about.

                      You're going to blame the neocons for the Arab Spring?

                      I conceded that they are scum and were involved but this was universally supported by the left, I know because I was strongly opposed to it whilst it was happening.

                      This was Clinton and Obama's brain child, they own it. Most of the progressives strongly supported it.
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                      • d2bets
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                        #5051
                        Trump at the last debate: “I’m the only one on this stage that said, ‘Do not go into Iraq,’ ” he asserted. “I said it loud and clear, ‘You’ll destabilize the Middle East.’ ”

                        When did he "do not go into Iraq". Link the interview. Total lie. We now have one statement about whether to go into Iraq and it is...."yeah, I guess so."

                        These are facts, folks. Not open to interpretation. Claiming "do not go into Iraq" is a BEFORE not after statement. He claimked he said it loud and clear, but there is not one audio of him ever saying that. The audio was have is "yeah, I guess so." He's caught in an outright lie.
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                        • d2bets
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                          #5052
                          Originally posted by DwightShrute
                          3 posts about it already.

                          No you don't give a shit.
                          I give a shit that he's been lying about his supposed opposition to going into Iraq.
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                          • DwightShrute
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                            • 01-17-09
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                            #5053
                            Originally posted by d2bets
                            Trump at the last debate: “I’m the only one on this stage that said, ‘Do not go into Iraq,’ ” he asserted. “I said it loud and clear, ‘You’ll destabilize the Middle East.’ ”

                            When did he "do not go into Iraq". Link the interview. Total lie. We now have one statement about whether to go into Iraq and it is...."yeah, I guess so."

                            These are facts, folks. Not open to interpretation. Claiming "do not go into Iraq" is a BEFORE not after statement. He claimked he said it loud and clear, but there is not one audio of him ever saying that. The audio was have is "yeah, I guess so." He's caught in an outright lie.
                            three 4 posts about it already.

                            No you don't give a shit.

                            Millions of people changed their minds all the time. I changed my mind many times just today alone. Actually, just before I posted this, deciding if I should be a dick or not. First it was yes but then I decided on the exploding puppy.

                            Last edited by DwightShrute; 02-18-16, 11:33 PM.
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                            • Andy117
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                              • 02-07-10
                              • 9511

                              #5054
                              Originally posted by Dr.Gonzo
                              Fail.

                              A multicultural shithole, this is the kind of society that you desire.
                              This is the kind of environment you get when you choose to do nothing to preserve it. There can always be a higher priority than clean water and air.
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                              • d2bets
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                                #5055
                                Was Donald Trump Really Against the Iraq War?

                                Trump’s prescient opposition to the invasion is an important part of his claim to sound judgment. And he is making it up. I would know.

                                - by James Fallows






                                Baracdk Obama was very clearly against the war. As was Bernie Sanders, Al Gore and Teddy Kennedy. Trump wants so badly to be in that group that he lied about it.
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                                • khicks26
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                                  • 09-16-06
                                  • 45604

                                  #5056
                                  Originally posted by Dr.Gonzo
                                  Give me the cliff notes, I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about.

                                  You're going to blame the neocons for the Arab Spring?

                                  I conceded that they are scum and were involved but this was universally supported by the left, I know because I was strongly opposed to it whilst it was happening.

                                  This was Clinton and Obama's brain child, they own it. Most of the progressives strongly supported it.
                                  Hillary Clinton is a Neo-Con. As is Victoria Nuland. Many of them still hold spots in the government. Some of the Arab Spring countries are the same one's that appear in the Project for a New American Century. There trying to pull the same shit in the Ukraine now. Part of the strategy.

                                  I'm just not sure how much control Obama has over this whole shit show. I doubt he's pulling the strings, he's not that powerful.
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                                  • d2bets
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                                    #5057
                                    Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                    three 4 posts about it already.

                                    No you don't give a shit.

                                    Millions of people changed their minds all the time. I changed my mind many times just today alone. Actually, just before I posted this, deciding if I should be a dick or not. First it was yes but then I decided on the exploding puppy.

                                    For the fifth time, that's great that he changed his mind. So why can't he admit that? Why does he have to lie about saying that he was against going into Iraq. He wasn't. He has claimed he was numerous times. We now know he lied. Or he was just wrong and forgot. One or the other. Will he own up to it? Not a chance.
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                                    • DwightShrute
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                                      • 01-17-09
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                                      #5058
                                      Originally posted by d2bets
                                      Was Donald Trump Really Against the Iraq War?

                                      Trump’s prescient opposition to the invasion is an important part of his claim to sound judgment. And he is making it up. I would know.

                                      - by James Fallows






                                      Baracdk Obama was very clearly against the war. As was Bernie Sanders, Al Gore and Teddy Kennedy. Trump wants so badly to be in that group that he lied about it.

                                      BS, Gore, Kennedy and Obama were politicians. Trump said "I guess so" on a radio show.

                                      Don't be a James Fallows

                                      <del style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">five</del> six posts about it already.

                                      No you don't give a shit.
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                                      • Dr.Gonzo
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                                        • 12-05-09
                                        • 4660

                                        #5059
                                        Originally posted by Andy117
                                        This is the kind of environment you get when you choose to do nothing to preserve it. There can always be a higher priority than clean water and air.
                                        The well being of the environment is correlated to the well being of society. Only social decay could cause people to not care about the environment which they live.

                                        Now you raise an interesting point, there can always be a higher priority than clean water and air. I happen to disagree, but it is quite clear this is true of the left.

                                        The left wishes to take the immigration burden from the third world without concern on the environmental effects, where as I care more about the environment that I live in and do not wish to see it destroyed due to an excess in empathy.

                                        What's more important to you, immigration from the third world or the environment? Because you can't have both.
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                                        • Dr.Gonzo
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                                          • 12-05-09
                                          • 4660

                                          #5060
                                          Originally posted by khicks26
                                          Hillary Clinton is a Neo-Con. As is Victoria Nuland. Many of them still hold spots in the government. Some of the Arab Spring countries are the same one's that appear in the Project for a New American Century. There trying to pull the same shit in the Ukraine now. Part of the strategy.

                                          I'm just not sure how much control Obama has over this whole shit show. I doubt he's pulling the strings, he's not that powerful.
                                          Cliff notes please pertaining to geopolitical strategy, tell the truth.

                                          This is a pathetic attempt to carry the water for Obama and the left for backing the Arab Spring and remove their complicity, you should be embarrassed.
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                                          • d2bets
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                                            #5061
                                            Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                            BS, Gore, Kennedy and Obama were politicians. Trump said "I guess so" on a radio show.

                                            Don't be a James Fallows

                                            <del style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">five</del> six posts about it already.

                                            No you don't give a shit.
                                            The

                                            Then why lie and claim that he was the only one stage who was against going into Iraq. There are ZERO public statement where he was against going into Iraq.

                                            I picked every college basketball game correct tonight. I didn't post my picks anywhere, but really, I did get them all right. I'm sure you believe me.T

                                            Trump is a charlatan.

                                            No need to respond. I won't post anymore on this issue because it's already clear.
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                                            • khicks26
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                                              • 09-16-06
                                              • 45604

                                              #5062
                                              Originally posted by Dr.Gonzo
                                              Cliff notes please pertaining to geopolitical strategy, tell the truth.

                                              This is a pathetic attempt to carry the water for Obama and the left for backing the Arab Spring and remove their complicity, you should be embarrassed.
                                              What hell makes you think I'm a fan of Clinton & Obama, or their foreign policy. As far as I'm concerned, Obama is a smart GWB. All I'm saying is that Obama may not be the guy pull the strings. But he sure as hell is not innocent.

                                              You want cliff notes get them yourself. Guys like Paul Craig Roberts, Ray McGovern, Thomas Drake, Robert Scheer, Bill Binney, & John Perkins will help. Also quit being such a dope & blaming the left for everything. Its both parties. Also quit with the CNN & cable news videos, & only believe half of the crap that Alex Jones is filling your head with.
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                                              • jtoler
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                                                • 12-17-13
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                                                #5063
                                                Originally posted by Dr.Gonzo
                                                Give me the cliff notes, I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about.

                                                You're going to blame the neocons for the Arab Spring?

                                                I conceded that they are scum and were involved but this was universally supported by the left, I know because I was strongly opposed to it whilst it was happening.

                                                This was Clinton and Obama's brain child, they own it. Most of the progressives strongly supported it.
                                                From my recollection it was the Saudi's idea along with Turkey. The whole thing is kinda like a world war where there is a domino effect. From my recollection this really all started between Ukraine and Russia and Ukraine messing around with the gas which they were probably instructed to do by the U.S. which is possible. With that came Russia freezing parts of Europe in the middle of the winter so came about the idea for the construction of a pipeline from Qatar passing through Syria(there is where the Syria problem comes in for now, even though Syria has been in their plan to take out for over 10 years) Iran was gonna run a line off of their coast of the Persian running through Syria also, Assad saw himself in a position of leverage but since Iran is an ally he was cool with their line, the Saudi's didnt like this so they stirred up the Arab Spring with their funding of the Muslim Brotherhood starting in Tunisia, its all been a domino effect, the U.S. went along with it at first but then backed off for a while, during the Spring saw the overthrow of Gaddafi, the U.S. had direct interest in that for other reasons, could go further but this has gotten long, there are a few other reasons for the U.S. involvement also and they are big reasons.
                                                Last edited by jtoler; 02-19-16, 12:21 AM.
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                                                • jtoler
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                                                  • 12-17-13
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                                                  #5064
                                                  Originally posted by d2bets
                                                  Trump at the last debate: “I’m the only one on this stage that said, ‘Do not go into Iraq,’ ” he asserted. “I said it loud and clear, ‘You’ll destabilize the Middle East.’ ”

                                                  When did he "do not go into Iraq". Link the interview. Total lie. We now have one statement about whether to go into Iraq and it is...."yeah, I guess so."

                                                  These are facts, folks. Not open to interpretation. Claiming "do not go into Iraq" is a BEFORE not after statement. He claimked he said it loud and clear, but there is not one audio of him ever saying that. The audio was have is "yeah, I guess so." He's caught in an outright lie.
                                                  I saw Trump and Carson along with other candidates use that term wrongly the other night as if destabilization is a bad thing for the U.S., the whole purpose was to destabilize the region turn it into chaos a sectarian nightmare.
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                                                  • Dr.Gonzo
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                                                    • 12-05-09
                                                    • 4660

                                                    #5065
                                                    Originally posted by khicks26
                                                    What hell makes you think I'm a fan of Clinton & Obama, or their foreign policy. As far as I'm concerned, Obama is a smart GWB. All I'm saying is that Obama may not be the guy pull the strings. But he sure as hell is not innocent.

                                                    You want cliff notes get them yourself. Guys like Paul Craig Roberts, Ray McGovern, Thomas Drake, Robert Scheer, Bill Binney, & John Perkins will help. Also quit being such a dope & blaming the left for everything. Its both parties. Also quit with the CNN & cable news videos, & only believe half of the crap that Alex Jones is filling your head with.
                                                    I accused you of carrying their water, which is exactly what you were doing.

                                                    It says alot about you that you can't give a summation of your beliefs.

                                                    I am not an Alex Jones fan, who are the globalists?
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                                                    • pilebuck13
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                                                      • 05-15-15
                                                      • 17918

                                                      #5066
                                                      Pope getting involved

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                                                      • Dr.Gonzo
                                                        SBR MVP
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                                                        #5067
                                                        Originally posted by jtoler
                                                        From my recollection it was the Saudi's idea along with Turkey. The whole thing is kinda like a world war where there is a domino effect. From my recollection this really all started between Ukraine and Russia and Ukraine messing around with the gas which they were probably instructed to do by the U.S. which is possible. With that came Russia freezing parts of Europe in the middle of the winter so came about the idea for the construction of a pipeline from Qatar passing through Syria(there is where the Syria problem comes in for now, even though Syria has been in their plan to take out for over 10 years) Iran was gonna run a line off of their coast of the Persian running through Syria also, Assad saw himself in a position of leverage but since Iran is an ally he was cool with their line, the Saudi's didnt like this so they stirred up the Arab Spring with their funding of the Muslim Brotherhood starting in Tunisia, its all been a domino effect, the U.S. went along with it at first but then backed off for a while, during the Spring saw the overthrow of Gaddafi, the U.S. had direct interest in that for other reasons, could go further but this has gotten long, there are a few other reasons for the U.S. involvement also and they are big reasons.
                                                        Your post has merit and I agree with your summation somewhat but I feel you're being semantic here.
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                                                        • khicks26
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                                                          • 09-16-06
                                                          • 45604

                                                          #5068
                                                          Originally posted by Dr.Gonzo
                                                          I accused you of carrying their water, which is exactly what you were doing.

                                                          It says alot about you that you can't give a summation of your beliefs.

                                                          I am not an Alex Jones fan, who are the globalists?
                                                          Yeah you accuse a lot. Your not here to debate, just spew your shit & belittle people. Which says a lot about you & your beliefs I think Obama is a snake that bombs women & children in the Middle East. Not carrying water for anyone.

                                                          I gave you the names, do your home work. Unless your afraid to find out your full of shit. LOL
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                                                          • jtoler
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                                                            • 12-17-13
                                                            • 30967

                                                            #5069
                                                            Originally posted by Dr.Gonzo
                                                            Your post has merit and I agree with your summation somewhat but I feel you're being semantic here.
                                                            I know what the word means but not sure what you mean by it. I left out quite a bit of details just writing off the top of my head, Russia has interests because of prior agreements with Iran and they also have a military base off the Mediterranean. Iraq, Iran, and Syria are allied also because all three are ran by Shiites. Hate the whole thing especially the Libya thing and also whats going on in Syria, but the U.S. usually get their man, only ones I can remember them not getting is Castro, they had a hard time with Suharto but finally got him out of there, they will not stop, bunch of insane idiots, but still puppets pulled by something bigger. Oh alot about the Ukraine mess I didnt mention, typical overthrow there, NGO's stirring up mess, been doing it for over 60 years, regime change yadda yadda, U.S. entering more and new markets, big money, hope theyre all happy with the bloodshed not like they care anyway.
                                                            Last edited by jtoler; 02-19-16, 12:42 AM.
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                                                            • khicks26
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                                                              • 09-16-06
                                                              • 45604

                                                              #5070


                                                              You Trump clowns better hope for Hillary.
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                                                              • ACoochy
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                                                                • 08-19-09
                                                                • 13949

                                                                #5071
                                                                Originally posted by pilebuck13
                                                                Calls the Pope a disgrace

                                                                Is there anyone Dump Trump won't rag on??
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                                                                • DwightShrute
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                                                                  • 01-17-09
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                                                                  #5072
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                                                                  "Big Beautiful Walls of Vatican City — Just sayin."
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                                                                  • DwightShrute
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                                                                    #5073
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                                                                    • pilebuck13
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                                                                      • 05-15-15
                                                                      • 17918

                                                                      #5074
                                                                      This is not a good look for trump backers,elderly vote. And they often vote off religious beliefs(and religious beliefs alone) the pope basically calling him out by name is no Bueno if u like trump.
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                                                                      • Dr.Gonzo
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                                                                        • 12-05-09
                                                                        • 4660

                                                                        #5075
                                                                        Originally posted by jtoler
                                                                        I know what the word means but not sure what you mean by it.
                                                                        Only your disagreement of my wording pertaining to Clinton and Obama's involvement.
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