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  • d2bets
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    • 08-10-05
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    #36
    Originally posted by I/O
    Guess the homers missed his at bat with a runner at second with no outs tonight. He will cost them more games than he will win.
    Well he's 2-2 so far tonight, I guess that's not good enough for you. Either that or you've seen his AB's in the future.

    Baez was/is universally a top 10 MLB prospect, but we know you're smarter than all the rest.
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    • I/O
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      • 05-26-11
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      #37
      Originally posted by d2bets
      Well he's 2-2 so far tonight, I guess that's not good enough for you. Either that or you've seen his AB's in the future.
      Obviously Mr Homer you don't know how his earlier at bat went. Doesn't matter right.

      "YAY! HOME RUN!!"

      "Just like Sammy"



      puke homer
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      • I/O
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        • 05-26-11
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        #38
        Originally posted by d2bets
        Well he's 2-2 so far tonight, I guess that's not good enough for you. Either that or you've seen his AB's in the future.

        Baez was/is universally a top 10 MLB prospect, but we know you're smarter than my homer ass
        fyp.
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        • Chi_archie
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          • 07-22-08
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          #39
          horrible


          C Coghlan doubled to deep center. 0 0
          J Baez singled to right, C Coghlan to third, J Baez to second advancing on throw. 0 0
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          • I/O
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            • 05-26-11
            • 7922

            #40
            Originally posted by Chi_archie
            horrible


            C Coghlan doubled to deep center. 0 0
            J Baez singled to right, C Coghlan to third, J Baez to second advancing on throw. 0 0
            just wait

            the league will have no trouble pitching to his aggression

            Here's a clue......

            He has NO interest in advancing ANY runner, let alone a runner on second with no outs. If this was the proper way TO PLAY, don't you think EVERY team would be letting all their hitters swing away?

            The rest of their schedule is mostly upper class teams. We'll see what shakes.
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            • I/O
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              • 05-26-11
              • 7922

              #41
              Two and a half years in Theo's minor leagues and this cat learned how to swing from his heels

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              • Chi_archie
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                • 07-22-08
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                #42
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                • No coincidences
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                  • 01-18-10
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                  #43
                  Originally posted by I/O
                  just wait

                  the league will have no trouble pitching to his aggression

                  Here's a clue......

                  He has NO interest in advancing ANY runner, let alone a runner on second with no outs. If this was the proper way TO PLAY, don't you think EVERY team would be letting all their hitters swing away?

                  The rest of their schedule is mostly upper class teams. We'll see what shakes.
                  You pretty much described every hitter in baseball these days -- especially the "sluggers."

                  No one does the little things to help teams win ballgames anymore.
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                  • d2bets
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                    • 08-10-05
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                    #44
                    Originally posted by I/O
                    just wait

                    the league will have no trouble pitching to his aggression

                    Here's a clue......

                    He has NO interest in advancing ANY runner, let alone a runner on second with no outs. If this was the proper way TO PLAY, don't you think EVERY team would be letting all their hitters swing away?

                    The rest of their schedule is mostly upper class teams. We'll see what shakes.
                    In the world according to I/O, Javier Baez would be bunting in the 1st inning with a runner on 2nd and no out.
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                    • I/O
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                      • 05-26-11
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                      #45
                      Originally posted by No coincidences
                      You pretty much described every hitter in baseball these days -- especially the "sluggers."

                      No one does the little things to help teams win ballgames anymore.
                      The first time he showed no interest in advancing the runner it cost them the game. This time I think he was down 1-2 and hit the single.

                      It'll catch up to him.
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                      • I/O
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                        • 05-26-11
                        • 7922

                        #46
                        Originally posted by d2bets
                        In the world according to I/O, Javier Baez would be bunting in the 1st inning with a runner on 2nd and no out.
                        who said anything about bunting homer?
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                        • Chi_archie
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                          • 07-22-08
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                          #47
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                          • No coincidences
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                            #48
                            Originally posted by I/O
                            The first time he showed no interest in advancing the runner it cost them the game. This time I think he was down 1-2 and hit the single.

                            It'll catch up to him.
                            I'm in total agreement with you -- the disrespect for things that help win games that has been proven to work for over 100 years in this game is a total embarrassment. But Baez is just one in a land of a million now. The "right way" to play the game is long gone.
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                            • Chi_archie
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                              • 07-22-08
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                              #49
                              bring back Jay Bell

                              that guy gave outs away like no bodies business!
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                              • No coincidences
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                                #50
                                Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                bring back Jay Bell

                                that guy gave outs away like no bodies business!
                                The hacks have always existed in baseball, but since Moneyball became mainstream, teams think they can flush bunting and everything else Billy Beane swears off. Problem is, you can't just blindly do what the A's do without copying their personnel blueprint also. Now you've got an entire league full of horrific hitters like Nate Schierholtz hacking away instead of squaring up or moving a guy over. It's a joke and a blatant disrespect of the game.
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                                • EaglesPhan36
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                                  • 12-06-06
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                                  #51
                                  I overbid a bit for him in fantasy, but good dividends since I earn extra for HRs & I needed a utility spot producer. Seems typical of young talent in MLB. Too many Ks, but great pop when making contact.
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                                  • Chi_archie
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                                    • 07-22-08
                                    • 63172

                                    #52
                                    Going for golden sombrero
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                                    • Pauulzcappin
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                                      • 04-23-10
                                      • 20295

                                      #53
                                      future hall of famer bailed me out on my tto3.5

                                      nice bomb
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                                      • I/O
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                                        • 05-26-11
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                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by Pauulzcappin
                                        future hall of famer bailed me out on my tto3.5

                                        nice bomb


                                        also his batting average could still be higher than his weight by season's end
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                                        • d2bets
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                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by I/O


                                          also his batting average could still be higher than his weight by season's end
                                          So you think he weighs more than 233?
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                                          • I/O
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                                            • 05-26-11
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                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by d2bets
                                            So you think he weighs more than 233?
                                            shut up troll

                                            he ways half what you do
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                                            • I/O
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                                              • 05-26-11
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                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                              Going for golden sombrero
                                              He's accomplished that AGAIN

                                              What's 5 straight strike outs called?
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                                              • d2bets
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                                                • 08-10-05
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                                                #58
                                                Jorge Soler makes his debut for Cubs tonight.

                                                Think Yasiel Puig. Big, strong, athletic RF with a more advanced approach at the plate than Baez. Only 22 but has been delayed over the last couple years by injuries. Signed a 9 year $30 mil deal a few years ago with the Cubs. 1.132 OPS this season in 62 games at AA/AAA.
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                                                • I/O
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                                                  • 05-26-11
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                                                  #59
                                                  No doubt like Puig. Stupid. Lazy. Cocky.

                                                  Hopefully this island hopper will grow out of it. But then again he's going to the Cubs.

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                                                  • I/O
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                                                    • 05-26-11
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                                                    #60
                                                    fwiw

                                                    Baez has something to shoot for next year. There's no way he gets there right?

                                                    I could be wrong about any of this......MLB record for strike outs in a season...Mark Reynolds.....2009.......223 times.

                                                    Through 20 games, Yunior has 36. Thats Over 291 for 162 games.

                                                    Say he takes 30 games off next year. At current rate he would still strike out 237 times.

                                                    (Mark Reynolds...not in HOF)
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                                                    • d2bets
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                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by I/O
                                                      No doubt like Puig. Stupid. Lazy. Cocky.

                                                      Hopefully this island hopper will grow out of it. But then again he's going to the Cubs.

                                                      http://www.chicagonow.com/cubs-insid...f-jorge-soler/
                                                      He may have some of that. But I think if he produces like Puig, the Cubs will be happy enough.
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                                                      • Chi_archie
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                                                        • 07-22-08
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                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by I/O
                                                        fwiw

                                                        Baez has something to shoot for next year. There's no way he gets there right?

                                                        I could be wrong about any of this......MLB record for strike outs in a season...Mark Reynolds.....2009.......223 times.

                                                        Through 20 games, Yunior has 36. Thats Over 291 for 162 games.

                                                        Say he takes 30 games off next year. At current rate he would still strike out 237 times.

                                                        (Mark Reynolds...not in HOF)
                                                        I'd say a better way to do it would be K% as it pertains to plate appearances

                                                        Reynolds 223/659= 33.8% K ratio

                                                        Baez 36/86= 41.8%

                                                        extrapolated out to Baez having 659 PA's he'd strike out 275 times
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                                                        • d2bets
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                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                                          I'd say a better way to do it would be K% as it pertains to plate appearances

                                                          Reynolds 223/659= 33.8% K ratio

                                                          Baez 36/86= 41.8%

                                                          extrapolated out to Baez having 659 PA's he'd strike out 275 times
                                                          And of course you can't (or shouldn't) extrapolate the first 20 games. Baez won't be the first rookie to strike out a lot in his first month. We'll see. I do think he could K 200 times. He could also hit 40+ HR's. Strikeouts are overrated. I'd rather have a K and a HR than two harmless groundouts.
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                                                          • I/O
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                                                            • 05-26-11
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                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                                            I'd say a better way to do it would be K% as it pertains to plate appearances

                                                            Reynolds 223/659= 33.8% K ratio

                                                            Baez 36/86= 41.8%

                                                            extrapolated out to Baez having 659 PA's he'd strike out 275 times
                                                            wow!

                                                            just wow

                                                            I'm not a numbers guy but that don't look good.
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                                                            • Pauulzcappin
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                                                              • 04-23-10
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                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by I/O
                                                              wow!

                                                              just wow

                                                              I'm not a numbers guy but that don't look good.
                                                              this guy has to fix his swing pronto
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                                                              • I/O
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                                                                • 05-26-11
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                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by d2bets
                                                                And of course you can't (or shouldn't) extrapolate the first 20 games. Baez won't be the first rookie to strike out a lot in his first month. We'll see. I do think he could K 200 times. He could also hit 40+ HR's. Strikeouts are overrated. I'd rather have a K and a HR than two harmless groundouts.
                                                                A K with runners on and a possible multi-run inning, and a home run. Two ground outs with runners in scoring position and a home run.

                                                                A home run when you have already cost your team multiple runs in the same game in earlier at bats when things were on the line on a team that can't score.
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                                                                • Chi_archie
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                                                                  • 07-22-08
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  should spend his summer in the mexican summer league

                                                                  MLB pitchers are getting him with off speed stuff, he'd see plenty of that in Mexico

                                                                  he'll adjust
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                                                                  • I/O
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                                                                    #68
                                                                    Not too mention the opponent won't exactly go after prior hitters when they have Mr K on deck. That's 2 times a game Mr K.
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                                                                    • I/O
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                                                                      • 05-26-11
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                                                      should spend his summer in the mexican summer league

                                                                      MLB pitchers are getting him with off speed stuff, he'd see plenty of that in Mexico

                                                                      he'll adjust
                                                                      Not in this organization. Minny, Atl, SF....sure. Not with the Cubs.
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                                                                      • I/O
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                                                                        • 05-26-11
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                                                                        #70
                                                                        Not like he can start juicing after his first seasons go by and improve for the rest of his career. (Like somebody else.)
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