Is Nadal the world's best athlete?

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  • InTheDrink
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 11-23-09
    • 23983

    #106
    Originally posted by stevenash
    Drinker getting buried by Shari.

    Never thought I'd see the day that Drinker gets pwnd'ed
    not at all nasher....reading is fundamental

    shari creates her own arguments so if you cant see thru that i can see how you might think so

    here's a better question for whoever wants to take it...

    when did nadal and feds play each other when they were both at their best?
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    • jjgold
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      • 07-20-05
      • 388179

      #107
      A big reason Fed did not even win more is because he started choking when the competition got better

      That US Open final lose to Del Potro was crushing and you started to see the choke in him

      Fed is not a killer like Joker and Nadal..more natural talent?? I would think so
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      • Optional
        Administrator
        • 06-10-10
        • 61752

        #108
        Check out how many of their matches are straight setters...


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        • InTheDrink
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 11-23-09
          • 23983

          #109
          Originally posted by jjgold
          A big reason Fed did not even win more is because he started choking when the competition got better

          That US Open final lose to Del Potro was crushing and you started to see the choke in him

          Fed is not a killer like Joker and Nadal..more natural talent?? I would think so
          what do you mean? nadal is the worlds best athlete

          seriously though, feds streak of 23 straight slam semis pretty much proves my point

          you arent playing the best until you reach the semis when youre ranked #1

          why cant all these other gueys compete with his streak?

          joker has 0 straight semis now

          andy murray has 0 straight semis now
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          • pavyracer
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 04-12-07
            • 82840

            #110
            Originally posted by I/O
            No doubt. They roll on the field 40 to 50 miles per game acting like they have been shot if another player touches them.
            You have no idea what defensive midfielders are, right? These are the guys that chase the ones you describe.
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            • jjgold
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 07-20-05
              • 388179

              #111
              Nadal not the best athlete

              Bo Jackson is and there is ZERO DEBATE..he wins by a landslide

              Nadal greatest competir we have ever seen

              Drinker dont go against Shari

              We are dating online..its complicated but it works
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              • InTheDrink
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 11-23-09
                • 23983

                #112
                Originally posted by jjgold
                Nadal not the best athlete

                Bo Jackson is and there is ZERO DEBATE..he wins by a landslide

                Nadal greatest competir we have ever seen

                Drinker dont go against Shari

                We are dating online..its complicated but it works
                jjer what sport does bo play right now guey

                jjer its lebron and you know this

                jjer this thread is off the rails
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                • jjgold
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 07-20-05
                  • 388179

                  #113
                  Best active athlete??

                  Hard to say actually..maybe kid from Flor St (QB)


                  Drinker I love when you drink early
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                  • stevenash
                    Moderator
                    • 01-17-11
                    • 65681

                    #114
                    Originally posted by InTheDrink
                    nadal is the worlds best athlete
                    Now, that's my opinion, I can't speak for anybody else, and you know what they say, opinions are like a-holes, everybody has one.
                    (and I can be an a-hole, don't ya know?)
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                    • InTheDrink
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 11-23-09
                      • 23983

                      #115
                      Originally posted by jjgold
                      Best active athlete??

                      Hard to say actually..maybe kid from Flor St (QB)


                      Drinker I love when you drink early
                      jjer im fukkin pumped for the day pal

                      jjer saturdays bring out the best in me because i can focus completely on getting really hammered

                      jjer can you imagine me roody kidder and sweeper together

                      jjer unrale
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                      • stevenash
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                        • 01-17-11
                        • 65681

                        #116
                        Originally posted by jjgold
                        Best active athlete??

                        Hard to say actually..maybe kid from Flor St (QB)


                        Drinker I love when you drink early
                        Drinker good peeps
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                        • stevenash
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                          • 01-17-11
                          • 65681

                          #117
                          Originally posted by InTheDrink

                          jjer can you imagine me roody kidder and sweeper together
                          That's illegal in like 23 states
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                          • InTheDrink
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 11-23-09
                            • 23983

                            #118
                            Originally posted by stevenash
                            Drinker good peeps


                            nasher i hope youre saying this from the heart and not manipulating me to get 1 sbr point
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                            • shari91
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                              • 02-23-10
                              • 32661

                              #119
                              Originally posted by InTheDrink
                              not at all nasher....reading is fundamental

                              shari creates her own arguments so if you cant see thru that i can see how you might think so

                              here's a better question for whoever wants to take it...

                              when did nadal and feds play each other when they were both at their best?
                              YOU jumped in here and quoted ME but I'm creating my own arguments.


                              YOU then said "dipshit rafa owns federer because they started playing each other as feds was coming out of his prime and rafa was entering his" and "the 2008 wimbledon final is pretty much where the torch was passed". You then continued with that silly shit about Sampras and Fed coming out of their prime at 26. I showed they clearly did not although it could be argued the longer a tennis player stays around, the lower his average will drop. The guy won EIGHT SLAMS after he's supposedly coming out of his prime according to you. So should we inform him that his 9 Slams against chumps for the most part were more important than the ones after that magical 26 you came up with?! I promise you, he'd say the exact opposite. He's talked many times about how Rafa and Djoko are the best players he's ever seen. Forgive me on this but I'm going to trust him over you. As for Lebron, sorry I missed your earlier post but my font at times should give away I'm on my phone. If you think he's the best then good on you. You realise this thread is for fun and our lives won't change because of it, right?
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                              • shari91
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 02-23-10
                                • 32661

                                #120
                                Originally posted by jjgold
                                Nadal not the best athlete

                                Bo Jackson is and there is ZERO DEBATE..he wins by a landslide

                                Nadal greatest competir we have ever seen

                                Drinker dont go against Shari

                                We are dating online..its complicated but it works
                                wtf Bo Jackson?! Let's keep it with someone current at least.
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                                • jjgold
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 07-20-05
                                  • 388179

                                  #121
                                  Some people think I am nuts when say Joker is better than Nadal
                                  I think Joker will have last say in their rivalry meaning he will close gap with wins and loses

                                  Joker I think has him 10-6 the lat 2 years

                                  Nadal has to play perfect to beat Joker

                                  SHARI come to NJ
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                                  • InTheDrink
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 11-23-09
                                    • 23983

                                    #122
                                    Originally posted by shari91
                                    YOU jumped in here and quoted ME but I'm creating my own arguments.


                                    YOU then said "dipshit rafa owns federer because they started playing each other as feds was coming out of his prime and rafa was entering his" and "the 2008 wimbledon final is pretty much where the torch was passed". You then continued with that silly shit about Sampras and Fed coming out of their prime at 26. I showed they clearly did not although it could be argued the longer a tennis player stays around, the lower his average will drop. The guy won EIGHT SLAMS after he's supposedly coming out of his prime according to you. So should we inform him that his 9 Slams against chumps for the most part were more important than the ones after that magical 26 you came up with?! I promise you, he'd say the exact opposite. He's talked many times about how Rafa and Djoko are the best players he's ever seen. Forgive me on this but I'm going to trust him over you. As for Lebron, sorry I missed your earlier post but my font at times should give away I'm on my phone. If you think he's the best then good on you. You realise this thread is for fun and our lives won't change because of it, right?


                                    ive yet to have any thread on any message board anywhere thats affected my life and i never will....how about you?
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                                    • BennyBigNuts
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                                      • 04-16-12
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                                      #123
                                      Been saying this on here forever.
                                      Him and Djokavic are the 2 most insane athletes on the planet.
                                      You see it the most when they actually play each other.
                                      Possibly roids for Nadal, but who cares, his endurance is still off the charts.
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                                      • pavyracer
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 04-12-07
                                        • 82840

                                        #124
                                        Originally posted by jjgold
                                        Best active athlete??

                                        Hard to say actually..maybe kid from Flor St (QB)


                                        Drinker I love when you drink early
                                        Wouldn't an NFL QB who plays 16 games plus playoffs be a better athlete than a freshman QB who played only one game he had a chance to lose?
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                                        • jjgold
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 07-20-05
                                          • 388179

                                          #125
                                          Drinker ...???

                                          Shari is like myself..every post is like its out last fukkin post of our fukkin lives

                                          We play to win Drinker

                                          Posting is all we got man

                                          Paver..Flor St QB can throw 95 miles an hr also
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                                          • InTheDrink
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 11-23-09
                                            • 23983

                                            #126
                                            Originally posted by jjgold
                                            Drinker ...???

                                            Shari is like myself..every post is like its out last fukkin post of our fukkin lives

                                            We play to win Drinker

                                            Posting is all we got man

                                            Paver..Flor St QB can throw 95 miles an hr also
                                            jjer im backing off for you here pal

                                            jjer as for winston so can russell wilson and kaepernick pal

                                            jjer they are both also faster and kaep probably stronger
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                                            • jjgold
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 07-20-05
                                              • 388179

                                              #127
                                              My Top 3 All Time Tennis Greats

                                              1.Nadal
                                              2. Lendl
                                              3. Fed
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                                              • I/O
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 05-26-11
                                                • 7922

                                                #128
                                                Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                You have no idea what defensive midfielders are, right? These are the guys that chase the ones you describe.
                                                Pavy I get it. Soccer player got the whole leg thing down in a team sport with down time (and cherry picking). So do marathon runners. They don't use their entire mind and body non stop one on one vs a equal weighted opponent doing the same against them.
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                                                • pavyracer
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 04-12-07
                                                  • 82840

                                                  #129
                                                  Originally posted by I/O
                                                  Pavy I get it. Soccer player got the whole leg thing down in a team sport with down time (and cherry picking). So do marathon runners. They don't use their entire mind and body non stop one on one vs a equal weighted opponent doing the same against them.
                                                  You still have no idea what a defensive midfielder is. Try harder.
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                                                  • stevenash
                                                    Moderator
                                                    • 01-17-11
                                                    • 65681

                                                    #130
                                                    Originally posted by InTheDrink


                                                    nasher i hope youre saying this from the heart and not manipulating me to get 1 sbr point
                                                    Drinker, my poops alone are worth 10 points, I like you, you keep it real.
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                                                    • stevenash
                                                      Moderator
                                                      • 01-17-11
                                                      • 65681

                                                      #131
                                                      Originally posted by BennyBigNuts
                                                      Been saying this on here forever.
                                                      Him and Djokavic are the 2 most insane athletes on the planet.
                                                      You see it the most when they actually play each other.
                                                      Possibly roids for Nadal, but who cares, his endurance is still off the charts.
                                                      I walk my dogs at Lake Mohegan here in Fairfield County Ct.
                                                      Every now and then I meet up with an acquaintance that works the US Open as a PT

                                                      We talk.

                                                      He says Nadal is a protein shake junkie.
                                                      Now he doesn't know what's in the shake, and he likes his cushy little two week big checks as a PT so he doesn't ask.
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                                                      • Noleafclover
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 06-06-13
                                                        • 1349

                                                        #132
                                                        Originally posted by InTheDrink
                                                        why cant all these other gueys compete with his streak?
                                                        as shari said, competition has gotten tougher

                                                        as for rafa owning fed, i'm a rafa fan, and do think when all is said/done he'll be considered the best because of the weak competition federer faced at the start, but its silly people don't understand its a matchup thing between these two-

                                                        the gimpiest backhand of all time can't handle the topspin.

                                                        shank you very much, g'nite
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                                                        • MiddleMan
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 05-26-13
                                                          • 673

                                                          #133
                                                          I'm not sure the below list is meant to be the best athlete, but moreso the domination they had in their sport. Still an interesting read.

                                                          1) Muhammad Ali

                                                          Brenkus says: "Throughout his entire career, Ali only lost one fight by knockout. At that time, Ali was already 38 years old, coming out of retirement to face an opponent almost eight years younger."
                                                          MiddleMan says: A lot of people don't even consider him to be the greatest Boxer of all time.

                                                          2) Mark Allen
                                                          Brenkus says: "Mark Allen holds the record for the fastest marathon split ever in the Ironman World Championship, running the final leg in 2:40:04 in 1989. But running isn't his only strength. In college at UC San Diego, Allen was an All-American swimmer."
                                                          MiddleMan says: Only Mark Allen I have heard of is the Australian Golfer, and he was a dud.

                                                          3) Jim Brown
                                                          Brenkus says: "Jim Brown is not only a member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame and the CollegeFootball Hall of Fame but alsothe College Lacrosse Hall of Fame. He was a lacrosse second-team All-American selection in 1956 and earned first-team honors in 1957, finishing second in the nation in scoring his senior year. Considered the best all-around athlete at Syracuse, he earned 10 varsity letters in four different sports (basketball, football, lacrosse, track)."
                                                          MiddleMan says: Never heard of him.

                                                          4) Dale Earnhardt Sr.
                                                          Brenkus says: "Known as one of the toughest drivers in NASCAR history, Earnhardt once raced Watkins Glen only two weeks after breaking his sternum and collarbone. Both steering and shifting with only one hand, not only did he win the pole, Earnhardt led 51 of the first 54 laps on his way to a sixth-place finish."
                                                          MiddleMan says: Impressive information, but never heard of him.

                                                          5) Roger Federer
                                                          Brenkus says: "Federer credits playing basketball, cricket and badminton -- the fastest racket sport, with shuttle speeds over 200 mph -- for his exceptional hand-eye coordination. He's won 17 career Grand Slam titles -- the most all-time."
                                                          MiddleMan says: Nadal will go past him.

                                                          6) Wayne Gretzky
                                                          Brenkus says: "Growing up, Gretzky used his exceptional reaction times in sports other than hockey. In his teenage years, after Gretzky batted .492 for a semipro baseball team, he caught the eye of the Toronto Blue Jays and was even offered a contract. But of course, he chose hockey and went on to become the only player in NHL history to score 200 points in a season -- and he did it four times."
                                                          MiddleMan says: He definitely has to be considered. Absolutely freakish the way he dominated his peers. Ice Hockey is not as popular at Soccer, Tennis or Basketball, but for sheer dominance of a sport, regardless of whether only 5% of the world's population has played it, puts him near the very top.

                                                          7) Tony Hawk
                                                          Brenkus says: "The Birdman might be most famous for being the first skater to land a 900, but his incredible agility on a deck and in the air actually enabled him to pioneer many more gravity-defying acrobatics, including a backside varial, airwalk, stalefish, 720, kickflip McTwist, varial 720 and stalefish frontside. All told, Hawk invented nearly 100 tricks which are now staples in the sport."
                                                          MiddleMan says: "I wish I knew what those moves are."

                                                          8) Bo Jackson
                                                          Brenkus says: "Jackson's speed qualified him for the U.S. Olympic Team for track and field, but he pursued football and baseball instead. At the 1986 NFL combine, his time of 4.12 seconds in the 40 is still the fastest ever measured at any NFL combine -- and more than a tenth of a second faster than the modern combine record of 4.24 set by Titans running back Chris Johnson."
                                                          MiddleMan says: Definitely has to be considered one of, if not, the greatest athlete of all time.

                                                          9) Michael Jordan
                                                          Brenkus says: "A three-sport athlete in high school (football, basketball and baseball), the future Air Jordan was nicknamed The Rabbit for his ability to run a 40 in 4.3 seconds. As a high school pitcher, he once pitched 42 consecutive scoreless innings. Jordan scored in double digits in 1,108 out of the 1,109 games he played for the Chicago Bulls."
                                                          MiddleMan says: "Which was the game he failed to score double digits in?" Easily the best Basketballer to ever grace the Earth, but he wasn't exceptionally dominate over his rivals (i.e. Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Kobe Bryant, Shaq) like Gretzky was.

                                                          10) Carl Lewis
                                                          Brenkus says: "Even after nearly three decades, Lewis still holds the world record for indoor long jump with a distance of 28 feet, 10.25 inches -- nearly the width of a volleyball court. Even though he never played basketball or football in college, his speed, explosive leaping ability and pure athleticism got Lewis drafted by both NBA and NFL teams the same year."
                                                          MiddleMan says: Absolute freak of an athlete. Drug cheat or not, I don't think you can say Bolt is better than Carl Lewis was.

                                                          11) Willie Mays
                                                          Brenkus says: "The 12-time Gold Glove winner, fourth on the all-time home run list, learned to hit a ball before he could walk. Baseball was actually his third sport, after football (quarterback and punter) and basketball, in which he led his high school team to a state championship."
                                                          MiddleMan says: Never heard of him. Not a big fan of Baseball.

                                                          12) Pele
                                                          Brenkus says: "Pele turned pro at 15, joined the Brazilian national team at 16 and scored six goals in the 1958 World Cup at 17, making him the youngest goal scorer in World Cup history. In his career, Pele recorded 30 four-goal games, six five-goal games and one eight-goal game."
                                                          MiddleMan says: The greatest Soccer player ever, which is a mighty achievement considering it's the world's most played sport. But I don't think he would have been great at another sport if there was no Soccer. I could be wrong, but you can't consider him for the greatest athlete.

                                                          13) Michael Phelps
                                                          Brenkus says: "Phelps' double-jointed ankles can reportedly bend 15 degrees farther than the average person, essentially turning his size 14 feet into large, flexible flippers. Phelps' giant 80-inch wingspan is 4 inches longer than predicted by the proportions of Da Vinci's Vitruvian Man."
                                                          MiddleMan says: Best swimmer of the generation with a remarkable Athens Olympics. That record will never be broken. Best athlete ever?Nah.

                                                          14) Jackie Robinson
                                                          Brenkus says: "In his first year at UCLA, Jackie Robinson's worst sport might have been baseball. In football, he averaged 12.2 yards per carry as the Bruins' halfback. In basketball, he led the entire conference in scoring. And in track and field, he broke the conference long jump record and won the NCAA long jump championship. He was UCLA's first four-letter athlete."
                                                          MiddleMan says: I only heard of him last year for the first time. He sounds like a freak.

                                                          15) Anderson Silva
                                                          Brenkus says: "In addition to numerous UFC and Pride belts, Silva has also earned black belts in Brazilian jiu-jitsu, taekwondo and Muay Thai."
                                                          MiddleMan says: Shame about his leg. He is considered by many to be the greatest UFC MMA fighter of all time. I don't agree. What's his record at now? 33-6? That is not that impressive. I prefer GSP and Bones Jones.

                                                          16) Tiger Woods
                                                          Brenkus says: "At age 3, he shot a 48 for nine holes. At 6, he made his first hole-in-one. And at age 12, he broke 70 on an 18-hole course. Tiger turned pro in 1996 and in 1997 won the Masters by a dozen strokes. He's gone on to become the first athlete to earn more than a billion dollars."
                                                          MiddleMan says: On the list due to the popularity of the sport and his sheer dominance over a 12 year period. Arguably the greatest golfer along with Jack Nicklaus the world has seen. But he can't be considered in this discussion of the greatest athlete.
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                                                          • Cuse0323
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                                                            • 12-09-09
                                                            • 30169

                                                            #134
                                                            advantage drinker

                                                            and Jim Brown is the greatest of all-time, Lebron present
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                                                            • InTheDrink
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 11-23-09
                                                              • 23983

                                                              #135
                                                              Originally posted by Noleafclover
                                                              as shari said, competition has gotten tougher

                                                              as for rafa owning fed, i'm a rafa fan, and do think when all is said/done he'll be considered the best because of the weak competition federer faced at the start, but its silly people don't understand its a matchup thing between these two-

                                                              the gimpiest backhand of all time can't handle the topspin.

                                                              shank you very much, g'nite
                                                              steve darcis

                                                              you gueyeeuyes gotta be kidding me

                                                              rafa hasnt made it past the second round at wimbledon since 2011....not to say its an easy thing but feds was a fukkin machine in the slams that we hadnt seen before, nor will we ever see again
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                                                              • Hench
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                                                                • 12-14-12
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                                                                #136
                                                                Hurt his back swinging his arm.

                                                                Ronaldo > Nadal.
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                                                                • InTheDrink
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 11-23-09
                                                                  • 23983

                                                                  #137
                                                                  Originally posted by Hench
                                                                  Hurt his back swinging his arm.

                                                                  Ronaldo > Nadal.
                                                                  lol
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                                                                  • Noleafclover
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 06-06-13
                                                                    • 1349

                                                                    #138
                                                                    Originally posted by InTheDrink
                                                                    steve darcis

                                                                    you gueyeeuyes gotta be kidding me

                                                                    rafa hasnt made it past the second round at wimbledon since 2011....not to say its an easy thing but feds was a fukkin machine in the slams that we hadnt seen before, nor will we ever see again
                                                                    potato salad to you, mr. non-sequitur.
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                                                                    • hmichaelt
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                                                                      • 01-05-13
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                                                                      #139
                                                                      although he lost in the final today and has had injury problems, i would say rafael nadal at the top of his game is the best athlete in the world
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                                                                      • I/O
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 05-26-11
                                                                        • 7922

                                                                        #140
                                                                        Who'da thunk it?

                                                                        Nasher with the big jinx
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