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  • housecloud
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 06-01-11
    • 558

    #1
    simple math question for 6 points
    I could figure this out on my own.. I'm just lazy..

    I'm not a pro anymore.. can I give points? I'll give my 6 points (woo!) to the first correct answer..

    I like Seattle to win the Superbowl (don't try and talk me out of it)

    5Dimes is offering these current odds:

    Seattle Seahawks <input id="editx" name="C_0" size="4"> +182

    Denver Broncos vs Seattle Seahawks <input id="editx" name="C_4" size="4"> +121

    New England Patriots vs Seattle Seahawks <input id="editx" name="C_6" size="4"> +361

    25415 Seattle beats Denver <input id="editx" name="M1_29" size="4"> +319
    3:00PM 25416 Any other result <input id="editx" name="M2_29" size="4"> -387

    25413 Seattle beats New England <input id="editx" name="M1_28" size="4"> +584
    3:00PM 25414 Any other result <input id="editx" name="M2_28" size="4"> -867

    I've got $2,000 that I want on Seattle to win... What makes the most sense mathematically? Do I get any better odds playing both Seattle beats Denver and Seattle beats New England... Rather just loading up all of it onto the +182 or does it work out the same? I do believe Seattle plays Denver and Seattle wins.. but I would hate loading up on that +319 and having New England beat out Denver this weekend...How Should I spread out the $2,000.

    Thanks.
  • opie1988
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 09-12-10
    • 23429

    #2
    You should just pm Deemer in this.

    He'll set you straight.
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    • SamDiamond
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 10-19-12
      • 6107

      #3
      I'm not sure what you posted here...

      You have 2 sets of odds...

      You have Denver/Seattle listed at +121

      You have New England/Seattle listed +361...

      Then underneath-- different odds.....

      Seattle beats Denver +319

      Seattle beats NE +584.

      Which odds are you referring to and I will give you the answer

      If you are convinced beyond reason that Seattle will win the Super Bowl--- don't try and figure out who they are playing

      Just bet Seattle to win the SB at +182

      No reason to fuk around with the NE-Denver game.
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      • innovation
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 01-27-12
        • 6218

        #4
        buy as many quality seats to the Niners game as you can.....double or triple up and then play which ever NFC team is in the SB.
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        • housecloud
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 06-01-11
          • 558

          #5
          You have Denver/Seattle listed at +121

          You have New England/Seattle listed +361...

          (these are just match-up odds) if there is any reason to take these as well then I will..
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          • RudyRuetigger
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 08-24-10
            • 65084

            #6
            ill figure it out for exactly 40 points.

            that is 2 points a day for 20 days

            other than that, im sure somehow else will help for free

            i do not want to spend time figuring it out, then someone else posting the answer and i do it for nothing
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            • ROFLcopter
              SBR MVP
              • 06-16-10
              • 4446

              #7
              None of these guys are answering your question correctly because apparently reading comprehension is hard. Not to worry, I got you.

              1300 on Seattle beats Denver +319 gives you 3474 profit (4174-700 on the loss on the other bet)

              700 on Seattle beats New England +584 gives you 2788 profit (4088-1300 on the loss on the other bet)

              2000 on Seattle just winning in general +182 gives you 3640 profit

              Close enough?
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              • bubblebuttluv
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 11-13-12
                • 5179

                #8
                Seattle +181 is the best deal out of those options.

                Say Seattle plays Denver, well then you have a gain of 0.21 units (You take your 1.21 unit profit and subtract your 1 unit investment in Seattle vs New England). Now if New England plays Seattle, well than you have a gain of 2.61 units (You take your 3.61 unit profit and subtract your 1 unit investment in Seattle vs Denver). You could make more money on Seattle vs New England, but you are counting on yet another game to go your way (aside from the NFC Championship and the Super Bowl).

                And give the points to someone else, if you want. I could care less about the Betpoints.
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                • str
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 01-12-09
                  • 11813

                  #9
                  best of luck
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                  • housecloud
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 06-01-11
                    • 558

                    #10
                    1300 on Seattle beats Denver +319 gives you 4174 profit

                    700 on Seattle beats New England +584 gives you 4088 profit

                    seems like this is the best bet... Anyone care to argue that?
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                    • bubblebuttluv
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 11-13-12
                      • 5179

                      #11
                      Originally posted by housecloud
                      1300 on Seattle beats Denver +319 gives you 4174 profit

                      700 on Seattle beats New England +584 gives you 4088 profit

                      seems like this is the best bet... Anyone care to argue that?
                      Not to sound like a dick, but if you already seem like you have a great idea, then why are you asking others?

                      The bet you posted sounds fine.

                      I am working on schoolwork at college right now so I couldn't crunch all the numbers earlier.
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                      • housecloud
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 06-01-11
                        • 558

                        #12
                        Originally posted by bubblebuttluv
                        Not to sound like a dick, but if you already seem like you have a great idea, then why are you asking others?

                        The bet you posted sounds fine.

                        I am working on schoolwork at college right now so I couldn't crunch all the numbers earlier.

                        ROFLcopter gave me the right answer.. that's why I asked others..
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                        • LT Profits
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 10-27-06
                          • 90963

                          #13
                          Originally posted by housecloud
                          1300 on Seattle beats Denver +319 gives you 4174 profit

                          700 on Seattle beats New England +584 gives you 4088 profit

                          seems like this is the best bet... Anyone care to argue that?
                          Wrong, the answer is 2000 on Seattle +182 for +3640

                          Given what was typed above, you would only win 3447 with Seattle over Denver and 2788 with Seattle over NE
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                          • MrZ
                            SBR MVP
                            • 09-27-10
                            • 1552

                            #14
                            Originally posted by LT Profits
                            Wrong, the answer is 2000 on Seattle +182 for for +3640

                            Given what was typed above, you would only win 3447 with Seattle over Denver and 2788 with Seattle over NE


                            Don't forget you lose what you wager on the losing side, lol
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                            • RudyRuetigger
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 08-24-10
                              • 65084

                              #15
                              what a fukkin joke this thread is
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                              • CTOWNsCAPPIN
                                SBR MVP
                                • 02-11-11
                                • 3079

                                #16
                                ROFLcopters advice is what you need to take
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                                • housecloud
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 06-01-11
                                  • 558

                                  #17
                                  I'll be the first to admit.. I didn't even calculate the losses on the other game...All I did was look over his answer real quickly and thought it made the most sense... pretty penetrating stupid...
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                                  • LT Profits
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 10-27-06
                                    • 90963

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by CTOWNsCAPPIN
                                    ROFLcopters advice is what you need to take
                                    Um no, read my last post
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                                    • RudyRuetigger
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 08-24-10
                                      • 65084

                                      #19
                                      did anyone try to calculate both MLs yet??
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                                      • ROFLcopter
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 06-16-10
                                        • 4446

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by LT Profits
                                        Wrong, the answer is 2000 on Seattle +182 for +3640

                                        Given what was typed above, you would only win 3447 with Seattle over Denver and 2788 with Seattle over NE
                                        LT is right, I forgot to subtract what you would lose on the other side
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                                        • MrZ
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 09-27-10
                                          • 1552

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by ROFLcopter
                                          None of these guys are answering your question correctly because apparently reading comprehension is hard. Not to worry, I got you.
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                                          • RudyRuetigger
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 08-24-10
                                            • 65084

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by MrZ
                                            i bet you feel stupid now
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                                            • RudyRuetigger
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 08-24-10
                                              • 65084

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by ROFLcopter
                                              None of these guys are answering your question correctly because apparently reading comprehension is hard. Not to worry, I got you.

                                              1300 on Seattle beats Denver +319 gives you 4174 profit

                                              700 on Seattle beats New England +584 gives you 4088 profit

                                              2000 on Seattle just winning in general +182 gives you 3640 profit

                                              Close enough?
                                              jesus christ and you thought reading comprehension was bad on others

                                              what a fukkin slap in the face you just got
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                                              • LT Profits
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 10-27-06
                                                • 90963

                                                #24
                                                And this may be speculation on my part, but if you like Denver to beat New England, you are probably better off just doing a Seattle ML parlay the next two weeks. If you like New England to upset, take the +182 Future with Seattle.
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                                                • RudyRuetigger
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 08-24-10
                                                  • 65084

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                  And this may be speculation on my part, but if you like Denver to beat New England, you are probably better off just doing a Seattle ML parlay the next two weeks. If you like New England to upset, take the +182 Future with Seattle.
                                                  we can calculate the chances of each given the spread on denver/ne and therefore come to correct answer
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                                                  • ROFLcopter
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 06-16-10
                                                    • 4446

                                                    #26
                                                    lol. forgot to subtract the loss from the other bet... that was nothing to do with reading comprehension. that just means i'm bad at math. anyway, i was right that peoples reading comprehension sucked because most people could barely understand the damn question that was asked
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                                                    • RudyRuetigger
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 08-24-10
                                                      • 65084

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by ROFLcopter
                                                      lol. forgot to subtract the loss from the other bet. anyway, i was right that peoples reading comprehension sucked because most people could barely understand the damn question that was asked
                                                      there were 5 replies before you typed pal

                                                      only 1 mentioned anything to do with the problem.

                                                      if by "peoples", you meant one person then ok
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                                                      • housecloud
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 06-01-11
                                                        • 558

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                        And this may be speculation on my part, but if you like Denver to beat New England, you are probably better off just doing a Seattle ML parlay the next two weeks. If you like New England to upset, take the +182 Future with Seattle.
                                                        makes sense. Thanks for your help.. I really like Seattle to win over Denver... so a part of me wants to load up on the +319 for roughly $1600 and let the $400 go on Seattle over New England for protection... but I think I think I'll just stick with the +182 for $2,000... or ML all in both Seattle games as you suggested..

                                                        Thanks for everyone who tried to help.
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                                                        • nvrlose37
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 06-01-12
                                                          • 2730

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                          Wrong, the answer is 2000 on Seattle +182 for +3640

                                                          Given what was typed above, you would only win 3447 with Seattle over Denver and 2788 with Seattle over NE
                                                          LT is right here so if you just like Seattle do the Future +182. If you happen to like Pats over Denver, you could split the $2000 evenly on Hawks vs either of the teams (+319, +584). You would stand to gain 4840 profit that way and would still win some in the event that Broncos make it and lose instead, 2190 profit.

                                                          Depends how you like the games though.
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                                                          • RudyRuetigger
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 08-24-10
                                                            • 65084

                                                            #30
                                                            this is all quantifiable if you had given your percent chance of denver winning over new england

                                                            i wouldve asked that question

                                                            hey, atleast now you have people doing it for you
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                                                            • LT Profits
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 10-27-06
                                                              • 90963

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                                              this is all quantifiable if you had given your percent chance of denver winning over seattle

                                                              i wouldve asked that question

                                                              hey, atleast now you have people doing it for you
                                                              Admittedly quick and dirty, I get +186 vs. Denver, +164 vs. NE, which would mean what I said stands in Post #24
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                                                              • housecloud
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 06-01-11
                                                                • 558

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                                Admittedly quick and dirty, I get +186 vs. Denver, +164 vs. NE, which would mean what I said stands in Post #24
                                                                Seattle ML to Seattle ML it is.. Thanks
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                                                                • RudyRuetigger
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 08-24-10
                                                                  • 65084

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                                  Admittedly quick and dirty, I get +186 vs. Denver, +164 vs. NE, which would mean what I said stands in Post #24
                                                                  actually i meant percent chance of denver winning over new england, i mustve typo. ill fix it now
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                                                                  • LT Profits
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 10-27-06
                                                                    • 90963

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                                                    actually i meant percent chance of denver winning over new england, i mustve typo. ill fix it now
                                                                    I just cheated and used Super Bowl lines at 5 Dimes as starting point. I assume Seattle -120 over Denver, -145 over NE
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                                                                    • RudyRuetigger
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 08-24-10
                                                                      • 65084

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                                      I just cheated and used Super Bowl lines at 5 Dimes as starting point. I assume Seattle -120 over Denver, -145 over NE
                                                                      you think it is that bad for afc? then clearly seattle futures are the choice. i would say both afc teams are favored, but less than 3 pts over seattle.
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