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  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #1
    How Good Is UCLA? Hoops Experts Only
    No drunks

    I know 25 teams can win NCAA tourney this year , I still think Duke is the team to beat but taking favs in college hoops is fukkin suicide now.

    Any top players on Bruins??
  • pinnacle420
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 10-01-12
    • 6254

    #2
    They are good enough to cover tonight
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    • pinnacle420
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 10-01-12
      • 6254

      #3
      but they won't....
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      • Big Bear
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 11-01-11
        • 43253

        #4
        anyone else?
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        • Bet10Heinekens
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 01-10-13
          • 10567

          #5
          your 2014 NCAA champions

          GameDate User/Phone Date Placed Sport Description Risk/Win
          Ticket#:18945599
          Dec 19 07:30 PM
          INTERNET / -1 Dec 03 10:50 AM
          PROP
          TEAM TO WIN THE MENS NCAA BASKETBALL CHAMPIONSHIP
          [88150] UCLA +5000




          They are running and gunning with Alford new system, you guys better recognize Jordan Adams
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          • Big Bear
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 11-01-11
            • 43253

            #6
            is the game at cameron indoor?
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            • Mozzie7
              SBR Hustler
              • 02-18-13
              • 87

              #7
              No - it's at a neutral site in NYC...either MSG or Barclays Center.

              JjGold - Duke is good, but needs to show me a consistent defensive effort before I would say they are a LEGIT title contender.
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              • plekz
                SBR MVP
                • 07-28-13
                • 1491

                #8
                UCLA are very athletic young kids, operative word here being YOUNG they are fairly small in terms of size, and i think they'll have a hard time stopping Duke when they drive to the basket, if they shoot lights out however they'll be able to hang with them.
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                • Big Bear
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 11-01-11
                  • 43253

                  #9
                  Originally posted by plekz
                  UCLA are very athletic young kids, operative word here being YOUNG they are fairly small in terms of size, and i think they'll have a hard time stopping Duke when they drive to the basket, if they shoot lights out however they'll be able to hang with them.
                  nobody shoots lights out on a neutral court. game will be won or loss on the boards
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                  • plekz
                    SBR MVP
                    • 07-28-13
                    • 1491

                    #10
                    Then DUKE should cover bit scared of backing DUKE doe in case it turns into a trackmeet where DUKE refuses to play defense again.
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                    • jjgold
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 07-20-05
                      • 388179

                      #11
                      Right now my lean is Duke.

                      Plenty of time to change my mind
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                      • Mozzie7
                        SBR Hustler
                        • 02-18-13
                        • 87

                        #12
                        Originally posted by plekz
                        UCLA are very athletic young kids, operative word here being YOUNG they are fairly small in terms of size, and i think they'll have a hard time stopping Duke when they drive to the basket, if they shoot lights out however they'll be able to hang with them.
                        Duke is also VERY small -- they do not have a legit center who plays quality minutes at all. They parade a bunch of SF and PF in the post. Duke is my team and I support them 100%, but this game scares me from a betting perspective.
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                        • VegasInsider
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 12-12-10
                          • 14593

                          #13
                          UCLA is for real but they're probably a year away from being a serious title contender. I have them as an easy Sweet 16 team and if they get hot, maybe an outside shot at winning a region. Still a lot of hoops to be played. Difficult line at 4, I have no idea
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                          • aman86
                            SBR MVP
                            • 08-29-09
                            • 3115

                            #14
                            duke is definitely the better overall team but this game imo comes down to motivation which I'm uncertain of...if duke gives a unc or uconn type effort that we've seen lately, ucla is talented enough to take take advantage

                            this game is a huge opportunity for ucla. .national spotlight...east coast exposure

                            duke has these games seemingly every other week and we've already seen them give less than their best

                            I just cant take ucla though hoping duke has a down night because duke should take this
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                            • aortega521
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 10-19-11
                              • 988

                              #15
                              Im really thinking Duke has it in them to cover. although steve alford is decent at coaching, when you look at his record in these types of games dating back to his last coaching stint at UNM, his teams didnt have the mental toughness to sustain a solid effort for 40 minutes. Duke has better talent better coach so i will take my chances. Dont over think the game too much fellas
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                              • crbravens23
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 12-10-13
                                • 268

                                #16
                                someone mentioned UCLA is small??? I've watched them ag NW, MIZZ. they are not small. they actually present with a lot of range and length. Extremely athletic team. coaches son plays who shoots lights out. if Duke plays zone a lot, which I dont think they will, UCLA can shoot 3s and hurt them. they present matchup problems for DUKE. having said that, UCLA much better at home, young team, may struggle early and make it close at the end.
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                                • InTheDrink
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 11-23-09
                                  • 23983

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by jjgold
                                  No drunks
                                  wtf
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                                  • Big Bear
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 11-01-11
                                    • 43253

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by crbravens23
                                    someone mentioned UCLA is small??? I've watched them ag NW, MIZZ. they are not small. they actually present with a lot of range and length. Extremely athletic team. coaches son plays who shoots lights out. if Duke plays zone a lot, which I dont think they will, UCLA can shoot 3s and hurt them. they present matchup problems for DUKE. having said that, UCLA much better at home, young team, may struggle early and make it close at the end.
                                    maybe they meant small penis size
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                                    • Madetowin
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 01-07-09
                                      • 1373

                                      #19
                                      duke ha they will crumble under pressure during big games.
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                                      • jjgold
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 07-20-05
                                        • 388179

                                        #20
                                        I might get greedy and bet duke in 1st half
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                                        • mahncpa
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 12-19-09
                                          • 341

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by crbravens23
                                          someone mentioned UCLA is small??? I've watched them ag NW, MIZZ. they are not small. they actually present with a lot of range and length. Extremely athletic team. coaches son plays who shoots lights out. if Duke plays zone a lot, which I dont think they will, UCLA can shoot 3s and hurt them. they present matchup problems for DUKE. having said that, UCLA much better at home, young team, may struggle early and make it close at the end.
                                          I have rarely seen dook play zone.
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                                          • wufpakman21
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 08-26-13
                                            • 403

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Madetowin
                                            duke ha they will crumble under pressure during big games.

                                            Yeah, that Coach K fellow, he's only won more games than any other coach on earth. Crumble?
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                                            • stratospro
                                              SBR Hustler
                                              • 09-24-13
                                              • 81

                                              #23
                                              Statistically UCLA is the better team.

                                              Better FG %, better FT %, more rebounds, more ast, more steals, more blocks.

                                              On road games, they are 13% better than Duke on fg%, 13% better in 3 pt land, 9 % better in free throws.

                                              I see this being a very close game, and UCLA + is probably the bet.
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                                              • stratospro
                                                SBR Hustler
                                                • 09-24-13
                                                • 81

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by mahncpa
                                                I have rarely seen dook play zone.

                                                I doubt they would play zone defense again a good 3 pt shooting team. If they would play anything it would be a 2-3 zone. Jim Boeheim taught Coach K the 2-3 being an assistant coach on Coach K's Olympic Team.

                                                With that being said, he would be dumb to throw a zone against a good outside shooting team.
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                                                • Ghenghis Kahn
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 01-02-12
                                                  • 19734

                                                  #25
                                                  all i know is if the line goes to 6, i'm taking ucla.
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                                                  • Vegas39
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 09-22-11
                                                    • 30686

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                                                    all i know is if the line goes to 6, i'm taking ucla.
                                                    at 5 in some places now. Wouldn't shock me to see it hit 6
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                                                    • ChalkyDog
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 10-02-11
                                                      • 9598

                                                      #27
                                                      UCLA is good, they have a bonafide scoring stud in Adams and a guy who does everything but play defense in Kyle Anderson.

                                                      Neither of these clubs play defense, at all. UCLA is bigger down low than Duke.

                                                      Duke shoots a ton of 3's. UCLA is top 5 2 pt FG team in the nation, meaning a lot of points come in the paint, a place Duke doesn't know how to defend, nor could they if they did know how.

                                                      I'm on UCLA for a unit. Nothing more, just so I have action on this game.

                                                      UCLA can beat Duke. Alford is a terrible terrible coach. JJ, I know you love the coaching angle in college.
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                                                      • jjgold
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 07-20-05
                                                        • 388179

                                                        #28
                                                        I am betting Duke 1st half
                                                        Final Bet

                                                        Thanks men

                                                        Great write up
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                                                        • thebestthereis
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 03-01-09
                                                          • 11459

                                                          #29
                                                          duke ranked way better with nba star, easy cover never lose
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                                                          • Roy Halladay
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 09-27-10
                                                            • 1074

                                                            #30
                                                            ESPN Stats & Info ‏<s>@</s>ESPNStatsInfo <small class="time"> 2h </small> Duke plays UCLA tonight in Madison Square Garden. Duke is 15-3 in its last 18 games at MSG and has won 22 straight games in December.
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                                                            • krangler
                                                              SBR Rookie
                                                              • 12-19-13
                                                              • 20

                                                              #31
                                                              I love the Pac in general this year. My focus is generally on Western teams and this is one of the best.

                                                              With the likes of Arizona State, UCLA, Oregon and Arizona, the Pac could easily dominate at this years tourny.

                                                              I think they match up pretty well with Zona who is a damn strong club on all levels.

                                                              I love UCLA and they should be able to hang tough tonight on a neutral court.
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                                                              • jtoler
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 12-17-13
                                                                • 30967

                                                                #32
                                                                UCLA has alot of talent but its alot of young talent, Duke is a small team. Game can go either way, Parker gets beside himself during games jacking up bad shots. Remember this name, Zach LaVine, he will be a star at this level and will go as far as he wants depending on his work ethic. UCLA has length game is just gonna come down to if UCLA believes it can win and they need to keep their foot on the pedal, they should have beat Mizzou but you know playing on another team's home court is dicey with them getting calls and you getting none, UCLA went cold also but still should have won. Their bigs need to be tougher but weve been waiting on that for 3 years so that probably wont change tonight.
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                                                                • ChalkyDog
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 10-02-11
                                                                  • 9598

                                                                  #33
                                                                  If you lay the points, you get the benefit of the refs.

                                                                  If you back UCLA, you are assuming they can keep it close playing 5 on 8 for 40 minutes.
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                                                                  • COdoubleBizzle
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 11-11-13
                                                                    • 668

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I liked UCLA until they ran into Mizzou and lost by 10, and Duke is a much bertter team than Mizzou. UCLA keeps it close in the first half then Duke pulls away in the 2nd and covers
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                                                                    • jtoler
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                                                                      • 12-17-13
                                                                      • 30967

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by stratospro
                                                                      I doubt they would play zone defense again a good 3 pt shooting team. If they would play anything it would be a 2-3 zone. Jim Boeheim taught Coach K the 2-3 being an assistant coach on Coach K's Olympic Team.

                                                                      With that being said, he would be dumb to throw a zone against a good outside shooting team.
                                                                      And a dumb 2-3 zone that Boeheim has employed. Easy to beat, but that just shows you their arnt alot of smart coaches in college basketball, even the so called big name coaches arnt as smart as you think they are. Boeheim always has his forwards too high in the zone, they get out of position easy, a little ball movement and it crashes, but there are too many dumb coaches who still dont know what to do with it, its not hard to beat. The key for Boeheim is to always get a decent ballhandling pg and big athletic good rebounding forwards, Cuse offensive sets are horrible also. St. John's sets were pathetic on Saturday but so were Cuse's as usual, thats my rant on Cuse today lol.
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