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  • packerd_00
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 05-22-13
    • 17823

    #106
    Originally posted by chachi
    Group A: Brazil, Croatia, Mexico, Cameroon
    Group B: Spain, Netherlands, Chile, Australia
    Group C: Colombia, Greece, Cote d'Ivoire, Japan
    Group D: Uruguay, Costa Rica, England, Italy
    Group E: Switzerland, Ecuador, France, Honduras
    Group F: Argentina, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Iran, Nigeria
    Group G: Germany, Portugal, Ghana, USA
    Group H: Belgium, Algeria, Russia, Korea Republic


    Some good picks,see we agree on the Super Eagles getting through.
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    • caveira
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 08-07-11
      • 532

      #107
      Originally posted by Christopher1991
      .

      Argentina also have the least distance to travel between games and don't have to play in the north where the heat and humidity will be ridiculous.
      The time of the games is ridiculous! (1 pm). I am brazilian and never saw any league be played at this time here, players will be exhausted before first half.
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      • edabramov
        SBR MVP
        • 07-27-13
        • 2059

        #108
        Originally posted by packerd_00
        Korea wont lose in the group stage.



        Im taking England over Uruguay,gotta back my home country.
        Don't blame you. Taking France to win world cup and russia to beat Belgium 10-0.
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        • packerd_00
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 05-22-13
          • 17823

          #109
          Originally posted by edabramov
          Don't blame you. Taking France to win world cup and russia to beat Belgium 10-0.
          Thats what the WC is about,national pride. What car flag will you use France or Russia.
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          • edabramov
            SBR MVP
            • 07-27-13
            • 2059

            #110
            Originally posted by packerd_00
            Thats what the WC is about,national pride. What car flag will you use France or Russia.
            Russia if they get out of group stage.

            France is my backup. Not French though so dunno lol.

            USA whenever they play.
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            • packerd_00
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 05-22-13
              • 17823

              #111
              Originally posted by edabramov
              Russia if they get out of group stage.

              France is my backup. Not French though so dunno lol.

              USA whenever they play.
              I see,are you just a fan of France then.

              The USA looked pretty good last WC,I keep waiting for them to get to the next level.
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              • chachi
                SBR MVP
                • 02-16-07
                • 4571

                #112
                Originally posted by packerd_00
                Some good picks,see we agree on the Super Eagles getting through.
                Yeah, not really a tough call there IMO.

                Portugal are shit, Belgium can't punch their way out of a paper bag when needed, no chance Croatia gets more than a point from Brazil and Mexico so they're toast, Uruguay will find out that Italy aren't as weak as the seeding alludes, and everyone else will find out the opposite about the Swiss
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                • packerd_00
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 05-22-13
                  • 17823

                  #113
                  Originally posted by chachi
                  Yeah, not really a tough call there IMO.

                  Portugal are shit, Belgium can't punch their way out of a paper bag when needed, no chance Croatia gets more than a point from Brazil and Mexico so they're toast, and Uruguay will find out that Italy aren't as weak as the seeding alludes, and everyone else will find out the opposite about the Swiss
                  Why is Bosnia being favoured over Nigeria to get through the group,when was the last time Bosnia was even in a WC.

                  Dont get why but Portugal are always over hyped in the Euros and the WC,and this was before Ronaldo showed up on the scene, I just like them to get through the group. I agree about Italy after the last WC theyll be looking to rebound with a strong showing.
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                  • chachi
                    SBR MVP
                    • 02-16-07
                    • 4571

                    #114
                    You never know whether the Nigeria side is going to proverbially show up or not, but I've got Bosnia pegged at zero points.

                    Italy simply just ****** up their ranking with the weak friendly, that killed their ranking big time, they're a stealth bomber in group but don't have an easy path after that really.
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                    • vasilli07
                      SBR MVP
                      • 05-08-11
                      • 3955

                      #115
                      Originally posted by packerd_00

                      Dont get why but Portugal are always over hyped in the Euros and the WC,and this was before Ronaldo showed up on the scene, I just like them to get through the group. I agree about Italy after the last WC theyll be looking to rebound with a strong showing.
                      Before Ronaldo, they have a better team with players like Figo and Rui Costa leading them so they were never over hyped at all. But like all golden generation teams before them, they never fully fulfill their real potential.
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                      • Jimmy0607
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 04-09-09
                        • 7785

                        #116
                        Croatia are toast? They will destroy Mexico
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                        • Jimmy0607
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 04-09-09
                          • 7785

                          #117
                          Originally posted by packerd_00
                          Why is Bosnia being favoured over Nigeria to get through the group,when was the last time Bosnia was even in a WC.

                          Dont get why but Portugal are always over hyped in the Euros and the WC,and this was before Ronaldo showed up on the scene, I just like them to get through the group. I agree about Italy after the last WC theyll be looking to rebound with a strong showing.
                          Because at this moment Bosnia is a better team than Nigeria , Bosnia beat everyone(and by a large margin) in the European qualifiers and Nigeria is not even the best African team
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                          • thetrinity
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 01-25-11
                            • 22431

                            #118
                            Originally posted by Christopher1991
                            .

                            Argentina also have the least distance to travel between games and don't have to play in the north where the heat and humidity will be ridiculous.
                            good points, usa has the worst travel schedule of all the teams, travel will be huge this time with such a big country that has so many different climates.
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                            • thetrinity
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 01-25-11
                              • 22431

                              #119
                              Originally posted by Jimmy0607
                              Because at this moment Bosnia is a better team than Nigeria , Bosnia beat everyone(and by a large margin) in the European qualifiers and Nigeria is not even the best African team
                              bosnia should move on they are beatable though, also likely starting off with a loss since they face argentina, wont matter as much if other game draws.
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                              • packerd_00
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 05-22-13
                                • 17823

                                #120
                                Originally posted by chachi
                                You never know whether the Nigeria side is going to proverbially show up or not, but I've got Bosnia pegged at zero points.

                                Italy simply just ****** up their ranking with the weak friendly, that killed their ranking big time, they're a stealth bomber in group but don't have an easy path after that really.
                                Thats true there one big showing was at WC 94, Nigeria do normally manage to make it out of the group stages though,Bosnia has never been in a WC so im going to temper my expectations until theyve shown me something.

                                I know Italy is going to have a chip on there shoulder after last WC,to not get through the Group stages rarely happens for teams like Italy. They will have a tough going no doubt deeper in the tournament.
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                                • packerd_00
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 05-22-13
                                  • 17823

                                  #121
                                  Originally posted by vasilli07
                                  Before Ronaldo, they have a better team with players like Figo and Rui Costa leading them so they were never over hyped at all. But like all golden generation teams before them, they never fully fulfill their real potential.
                                  They never really did much with those players though,and yet were always considered a top contender. You cant say they didnt live upto there potential,great teams live upto there potential.

                                  I will say Ronaldo has been a real let down for his national side over the years.
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                                  • StackinGreen
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 10-09-10
                                    • 12140

                                    #122
                                    Originally posted by Ralphie Halves
                                    USA calculated as 39% chance of advancing by whoever does that shit, I can't remember. Portugal barely made it, but we won't beat Germany, and stylistically we can't beat teams like Ghana no matter how up or down they are this time around.

                                    The way I see it, you have to beat teams of this caliber anyway, you may as well try and do it now before the top teams firmly get their WC legs under them. I like our chances of beating Germany in group play more than I would in the KO stages.

                                    Argentina draws Vietnam, Kuwait, and Antarctica. Must be nice.
                                    Totally agree with this. USA is always the most underrated side in the tournament (in recent years when they have actually been a quality team) just because of historical reasons and anti-Americanism. Before you reply if you get worked up by that statement, please read the definition of the word underrated.

                                    If USA can advance they get winner/runnerup of a relatively soft group. As Ralphie points out, better to get through and then have even better chance of advancing later, since no one cares unless you make it at least to the quarters, and hardly anyone remembers that either.

                                    Portugal is always overrated and Ghana is good, but very beatable as was demonstrated last time when we lost to them (Howard near side?) Boateng?). I'm not that worried. All in all, the pairings were a joke. Does anyone know what the claim is? Was it random? There is no way Germany (Klinsmann) and Ghana (history) were randomly paired with the US. This is soccer, give me a break.
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                                    • edabramov
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 07-27-13
                                      • 2059

                                      #123
                                      Originally posted by packerd_00
                                      I see,are you just a fan of France then.

                                      The USA looked pretty good last WC,I keep waiting for them to get to the next level.
                                      Soon! Just need better youth development at home..
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                                      • SportsMushroom
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 09-28-10
                                        • 4177

                                        #124
                                        Originally posted by packerd_00
                                        Why is Bosnia being favoured over Nigeria to get through the group,when was the last time Bosnia was even in a WC.

                                        Dont get why but Portugal are always over hyped in the Euros and the WC,and this was before Ronaldo showed up on the scene, I just like them to get through the group. I agree about Italy after the last WC theyll be looking to rebound with a strong showing.
                                        bosnia have been playing great football the last couple of years, on both sides of the field

                                        obviously it will depend on what shape they will be in the summer, but at this monment they could beat many of the so called big teams, including italy
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                                        • packerd_00
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 05-22-13
                                          • 17823

                                          #125
                                          Originally posted by edabramov
                                          Soon! Just need better youth development at home..
                                          Be good to get some more parity in the WC for a change,seems like theres a handful of teams every four years that you know will win and then you have the rest that are just playing for national pride,its been like that for decades.

                                          France did win the WC in 98 true, but that is a rarity.
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                                          • packerd_00
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 05-22-13
                                            • 17823

                                            #126
                                            Originally posted by SportsMushroom
                                            bosnia have been playing great football the last couple of years, on both sides of the field

                                            obviously it will depend on what shape they will be in the summer, but at this monment they could beat many of the so called big teams, including italy
                                            Bosnia isnt one of those teams I hear about, ill have an open mind. I remember when Croatia came out of knowhere in WC 98 and finished third overalll. This could be another situation,who knows.
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                                            • edabramov
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 07-27-13
                                              • 2059

                                              #127
                                              Originally posted by packerd_00
                                              Be good to get some more parity in the WC for a change,seems like theres a handful of teams every four years that you know will win and then you have the rest that are just playing for national pride,its been like that for decades.

                                              France did win the WC in 98 true, but that is a rarity.
                                              2006! Woulda been amazing to win 2 world cups with Zidane..
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                                              • SportsMushroom
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 09-28-10
                                                • 4177

                                                #128
                                                Originally posted by packerd_00
                                                Bosnia isnt one of those teams I hear about, ill have an open mind. I remember when Croatia came out of knowhere in WC 98 and finished third overalll. This could be another situation,who knows.
                                                i think they get a minimum of 4 points with that group which should see them through

                                                they will have a decent chane to proceed to the quarterfinals from there, they will face either france or switzerland. if they face swiss i give them 50% chance of going through, probably only 30% if they face france though. after that they'll probably face germany so its goodnight. ofcoarse in football anything can happen, and they are a good team as i have said
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                                                • packerd_00
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 05-22-13
                                                  • 17823

                                                  #129
                                                  Originally posted by edabramov
                                                  2006! Woulda been amazing to win 2 world cups with Zidane..
                                                  I was rooting for France in that final actually,they broke the trend of the power house countries.
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                                                  • packerd_00
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 05-22-13
                                                    • 17823

                                                    #130
                                                    Originally posted by SportsMushroom
                                                    i think they get a minimum of 4 points with that group which should see them through

                                                    they will have a decent chane to proceed to the quarterfinals from there, they will face either france or switzerland. if they face swiss i give them 50% chance of going through, probably only 30% if they face france though. after that they'll probably face germany so its goodnight. ofcoarse in football anything can happen, and they are a good team as i have said
                                                    Its hard for me because ive never seen Bosnia play, if Bosnia is that good Iran should be an easy three points for them right there.Well see what happens, its hard to predict these groups outside of the main countries.


                                                    Ill be curious to see what the stage of elimination prices are for Bosnia.
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                                                    • RubberKettle
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 12-28-09
                                                      • 6421

                                                      #131
                                                      Toughest group ever for USA, but they are best playing on the counter and not making the play.
                                                      Portugal and Germany will be making the play, but the Ghana game is most important.
                                                      Starting off with a result is imperative and Ghana are the typical African team, poor organization and finishing with lots of athleticism pace and drive.

                                                      If the USA can advance from this group it would be their greatest accomplishment since beating England way back in the day. Shades of 2002 and the heartbreak of 2010 loom large in the group.
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                                                      • bosigga
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 09-26-10
                                                        • 1312

                                                        #132
                                                        Originally posted by SportsMushroom
                                                        i think they get a minimum of 4 points with that group which should see them through

                                                        they will have a decent chane to proceed to the quarterfinals from there, they will face either france or switzerland. if they face swiss i give them 50% chance of going through, probably only 30% if they face france though. after that they'll probably face germany so its goodnight. ofcoarse in football anything can happen, and they are a good team as i have said
                                                        Spot on here. I like our chances from our group and the first KO round if we advance. Bosna's strength is in attack and the defense is improving. I'm confident we should beat Iran, but Nigeria will be tricky. If they are physical, fast, and run like engines Bosna could have trouble. Our team isn't known for being the most fit and disciplined.

                                                        I am hoping for 4 points too which should be enough if we can keep the Argentina game respectable
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