Seriously, who's beating FSU?

Rangers901 · 11-09-13, 01:16 PM

Originally posted by Popcorn Trick

Being voted high in the AP and Coaches Poll is a huge part of getting into the NC game. FSU knows this and will be crushing fools to firmly implant themselves at No. 2.

What I am saying? SEC has had this advantage for quite some time now. Bama is allowed to lose a game year in and year out because voters love them.

# No pressure

Just go 2-1 v the three hard games on your schedule and you're in!

Sweep Georgia State, Chatanooga and the likes. Don't lose against Kentucky, Arkansas, Tenn, Miss State and Auburn and a guaranteed spot in the Nat. Champ game. Must be nice!

Simply not true, but even if it was, then sure go 2-1 against the "hard teams" and then absolutely destroy the team you face in the NC game. That, sir, is quite a phenomenal theory you've produced.

nvrlose37 · 11-09-13, 01:18 PM

Originally posted by stevenash

Where can I get FSU +8?
I'm on that like stink on shit.

Right now, Bama is -1 on a neutral field, according to Sagarin, who a) is on the voting board, b)who's numbers pretty much mirrors Vegas's numbers week in week out.

Right now, Alabama would be -1, public would bet it up to -3, where the game would settle.

Man at -3, that's a gift for Bama backers.

byrdpickem · 11-09-13, 01:18 PM

They look unbeatable. But you give Saban a month to prepare and...well, you know.

Popcorn Trick · 11-09-13, 01:19 PM

May I add that Kentucky, Arkansas, Florida, Miss State, Vanderbilt and Tennessee really are pretty bad teams...There really is nothing redeemable about these teams. So stop overdoing with this SEC talk.

2nd tier - Georgia and A&M have high school defenses. Miss has a gelding for a QB...and nobody is scared on LSU's defense anymore.

stevenash · 11-09-13, 01:21 PM

And whoever said FSU runs it up could not be more wrong.

Fischer thinks it's a violation to run up scores for the sake of running it up.

stevenash · 11-09-13, 01:22 PM

Originally posted by Popcorn Trick

May I add that Kentucky, Arkansas, Florida, Miss State, Vanderbilt and Tennessee really are pretty bad teams...There really is nothing redeemable about these teams. So stop overdoing with this SEC talk.

2nd tier - Georgia and A&M have high school defenses. Miss has a gelding for a QB...and nobody is scared on LSU's defense anymore.

And Alabama struggled against Johnny Football

daneblazer · 11-09-13, 01:22 PM

stevenash · 11-09-13, 01:28 PM

OK, looks like FSU sits Winston and WF gets a solid half of Coker.
Let's see how this plays out.

letsgo · 11-09-13, 01:32 PM

Originally posted by stevenash

And whoever said FSU runs it up could not be more wrong.

Fischer thinks it's a violation to run up scores for the sake of running it up.

Just because the announcers say it doesn't mean it's true.

GoBlue77 · 11-09-13, 01:38 PM

Heisman race over. For fuks sake give it to Winston already. Best team leader and performer. Not even close

Pivotpoint · 11-09-13, 01:38 PM

Originally posted by nvrlose37

Ok you bet the FSU +8 and the "square" money will cash in when it's 42-13 Bama.

Dude, big fan of both teams.

But, I would go LARGE with FSU +8.

Very Large.

You kidding me, no way Vegas is that silly.

Your looking at Bama -3 . Tops, if game was played today.

onlooker · 11-09-13, 01:39 PM

Originally posted by letsgo

Just because the announcers say it doesn't mean it's true.

He said it in a post game interview after a game this year. I can't remember the exact game, but he did. I think he was pretty much throwing Oregon under the bus that day.

He won't play most starters in 2nd half, in blowouts at halftime.

stevenash · 11-09-13, 01:39 PM

Originally posted by letsgo

Just because the announcers say it doesn't mean it's true.

Announcers did not have to tell me that, it's common knowledge he's a class act like that.

stevenash · 11-09-13, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by onlooker

He said it in a post game interview after a game this year. I can't remember the exact game, but he did. I think he was pretty much throwing Oregon under the bus that day.

He won't play most starters in 2nd half, in blowouts at halftime.

Fischer just said it's not going to be Winston, if he does go in 2H it won't be long.
Jimbo's words.

dymd3z · 11-09-13, 01:42 PM

So lay off the over 21 2h ?

onlooker · 11-09-13, 01:42 PM

Originally posted by stevenash

Fischer just said it's not going to be Winston, if he does go in 2H it won't be long.
Jimbo's words.

I know. I've watched all FSU games this year. FSU fan.

Fisher doesn't play starters in 2nd half in blowouts.

Vinnie Paz · 11-09-13, 01:42 PM

Everything changes with a pass rush. Winston has yet to see a d line(or defense) of alabamas caliber. Applying pressure will IMO be a huge factor if Alabama wins.

Also, many of the lower tier/bottom feeder SEC teams are still >>>> acc bottom feeders.

And lastly, I wouldn't be so quick to downplay the experience factor. Winstons still a freshman with limited experience, a good one yes, but still a freshmen nonetheless. Meanwhile, Aj has been here & done this and has seen and had success vs elite level defenses in his time. Just some points. Good discussion here men.

stevenash · 11-09-13, 01:47 PM

^
Nobody is saying FSU rolls Alabama though.
That's silly to think Sems crush Tide.

Vinnie Paz · 11-09-13, 01:51 PM

Yeah I agree should be a great matchup nash. Glad Oregon lost didn'twanna see them anyhow.

You got anything for this afternoon/tonight?

Big Bear · 11-09-13, 01:59 PM

Originally posted by stevenash

What about their schedule?

Seminoles are 3-0 versus top 25's

Beat Maryland (25 at the time) 63-0. SIXTY THREE
Beat #3 Clemson 51-14
And do we really need to revisit the Miami game?

If one thinks Alabama is going roll this FSU team, one is ignorant.
FSU has answered every threat thrown at them this year, and crushed it.

ohio state gonnna beat FSU b/c LSU going to take care of Bama tonight

onlooker · 11-09-13, 02:02 PM

Originally posted by Big Bear

ohio state gonnna beat FSU b/c LSU going to take care of Bama tonight

OSU is all smoke and mirrors. Playing nobody.

onlooker · 11-09-13, 02:03 PM

Originally posted by Vinnie Paz

Glad Oregon lost didn'twanna see them anyhow.

I'm glad they got exposed early, and not in the National Title game. Because either Bama or FSU would of.

Rangers901 · 11-09-13, 02:03 PM

Originally posted by Big Bear

ohio state gonnna beat FSU b/c LSU going to take care of Bama tonight

Next time pinch yourself before you post.

Pivotpoint · 11-09-13, 02:04 PM

Originally posted by Rangers901

It's quite entertaining reading the plethora of knowledge in these threads, really the knowledge is out of this galaxy.

Bama is so far ahead of everyone else it's just not even close. I understand people WANT them to lose, but it doesn't mean it's going to happen.

I'm praying to god FSU remains undefeated so I can get that match up in the NC game. Everyone falling in love with FSU and Winston is going to present a great wagering opportunity with a generous line for Bama.

FSU hasn't played real football. Bama vs FSU is like men vs boys, they're going to see speed and toughness like they've never seen before. Winston is going to see pressure and coverage unlike anything he's seen before.

A Freshman QB going up against Bama and Saban with a month to prepare? Many people are going to be shocked to see FSU get absolutely obliterated in the trenches. Bama isn't as flashy because that's not how they play, but they've shown if they have to put up 42+ they will.

While everyone lets their emotions and over reactions of beating garbage teams by large margins cloud their minds, I'll be looking at things through non biased minds realizing this will be one of the best wagering opportunities you will see,

Not sure why you keep referencing Oregon when talking about FSU?

Tide and Noles are my favorite teams. Love how they play D, special teams, smash mouth ball.

Your high if you think either team can punch the other in the mouth and dominate. Must be Tide homer and thoughts cloudy

If anything, you'd have to shade FSU.

Noles played 3 TOP 25 TEAMS. Outscored them an EYE OPENING 155-28.

SEC has some great teams, tough conference, but trending more towards Offense. Some of the Defenses and points being scored against SEC D's is an embarrassent to days past. Football is evolving, I guess. Regardless, both of these Defenses play lights out, swarm to the ball, punish backs, receivers, force QB's into mistakes.

This game would be a war.

Noles went into Death Valley and shit all over Tigers, under the lights.

Tide went to A&M and barely escaped with the victory.

Is Johnny Football better than Winston? I don't think so. McCarron is a great Qb, but I've been surprised how good Winston has looked.

Nole O line and D line is beast, just like Bama. No way Bama rules in the trenches, no way.

I can only hope they meet in BCS and I can get Noles anywhere @ a TD or better.

onlooker · 11-09-13, 02:08 PM

Winston throws a INT, and Defense gets it right back for him.

stevenash · 11-09-13, 02:53 PM

Originally posted by Vinnie Paz

Yeah I agree should be a great matchup nash. Glad Oregon lost didn'twanna see them anyhow.

You got anything for this afternoon/tonight?

'Zona at home rolls UCLA at 10pm if I don't get too drunk I'll watch that beat down.

Soxsfan9 · 11-09-13, 02:57 PM

What no one has mentioned here is that when FSU plays Bama in the Championship game Saban will have had over a month to prepare. We have seen what he has done with time to prepare. I think Winston is playing amazingly and is the Heisman winner but I think that Saban will have a very good gameplan.
As well when this Bama team wants to play they dominate, Ole Miss talked trash and the media said their spread would give Bama problems and Bama shut them out. (I know Ole Miss is not the same as FSU- save me those posts)

I think it will be a hell of a game but give me Saban and Bama.

stevenash · 11-09-13, 03:14 PM

Originally posted by Soxsfan9

What no one has mentioned here is that when FSU plays Bama in the Championship game Saban will have had over a month to prepare.

It's been mentioned, but it's a long thread.
Agreed the best possible match up is FSU and Alabama

Wilfred · 11-10-13, 10:53 AM

Stanford, Ohio State, Alabama, and any team that can play decent defense and run power at their defense. Very beatable. And Manziel for Heisman.

thetrinity · 11-10-13, 12:15 PM

fsu has more projected nfl players then any other team but id go with bama/saban with a month to prepare.

daneblazer · 11-10-13, 04:15 PM

-39 against a decent Syracuse team who will make a bowl. Vegas cant set their lines high enough.

Cuse0323 · 11-10-13, 04:25 PM

Next week, book it. Jameis goes down in the 1st quarter, Cuse shocks the world.

MUHerd37 · 11-10-13, 04:30 PM

Hopefully we will get FSU vs Bama. Don't wanna see Ohio St get a shot at it. They are overrated as hell. Only 1 team on their entire schedule is even ranked right now with Wisconsin.

M.W. · 11-10-13, 05:50 PM

Originally posted by Big Bear

Remember fellas they play in th ACC.

So they beat Clemson and Miami and now they are unbeatable?

Clemson and Miami are not in the same class as Ohio State.

Clemson yes, Miami no.

BriGuy · 11-10-13, 05:51 PM

Originally posted by stevenash

Nobody! That's who.

Did you see their first drive, they substitute with a second string that's better than most first string defenses.

Alabama (and I like them sort of) can't beat them, Oregon? Stanford exposed those frauds, Ohio State can't hang with them...................

This is the 3rd "who could possibly beat team X?!?" thread I've seen this year. The first was for the Denver Broncos, the 2nd was for the Oregon Ducks. Think about it.