Rugby League World Cup 2013

[TurkishNBAFan]

Guys sorry for my bad english, but i wanna ask a question.

i got scotland -8,5 and -11,5 in my local bookie. i read the comment of sando, but i think i am missunderstood.

is he recommending scotland -11,5 ?

can someone help me?

[rohan22no]

Sando, purely theoretical question. How would a team like USA or Scotland go against an average NRL side (say raiders). Who's the favourite and what would the line be?

[Mase of Base]

Guys sorry for my bad english, but i wanna ask a question.

i got scotland -8,5 and -11,5 in my local bookie. i read the comment of sando, but i think i am missunderstood.

is he recommending scotland -11,5 ?

can someone help me?

His pick was Scotland to win by a total of between 1 and 12 points. Basically Scotland can't lose/draw or win by 13 points or more.

[sando]

Sando, purely theoretical question. How would a team like USA or Scotland go against an average NRL side (say raiders). Who's the favourite and what would the line be?

The Raiders would destroy either team. Not sure how the books would go about setting the right line, however I personally would set it at around Canberra -24.5 and still expect the Raiders to cover.

Firstly any club team always has an advantage over international teams due to familiarity and cohesion, which as you would know is surely more important in Rugby League than in just about any other sport.

Think about the write up I just did, talking up Linnet and Douglas and Peter Wallace as stars. Lets not kid ourselves, Linnet is ok, an average NRL centre, Douglas is not bad, maybe slightly above average and Wallace is washed up, yet that just shows how valuable they become when you put them in this type of scenario and suddenly they are so so important to their teams.

The NRL is so superior to the Super League and of course every other league in the world, and a tournament like this shows it. The speed we play the game at and the ability and raw strength of the players is like nothing most of these nations are used to.

The only reason the NRL team doesn't win the world club challenge every year is because the Super League is very top heavy, so the teams at the top are loaded with stars. You take the bottom of the barrel, say the Parramatta Eels v. London Broncos and the Eels are winning by 18+

It's quite bizarre how many Poms actually think the Super League is not only on par but a superior league to the NRL? So why does the best talent from the Super League often come to the NRL yet it is usually the older past their best NRL players that head to the super league.

Just for the record even Parra or St. George would beat every nation at this current World Cup comfortably (bar the big 3 of course). Yes a team like Tonga is loaded with NRL stars, but you can't jus take a bunch of low IQ but physically gifted islanders and throw them in a team and expect miracles.

[Rustyglobes]

Don't like how the game is progressing so far boys, don't think it's our day today! Hope i'm proven wrong in the second half

[sando]

Don't like how the game is progressing so far boys, don't think it's our day today! Hope i'm proven wrong in the second half

Well the good news is that as long as Scotland wins it will most definitely be within the 1-12 margin now haha. Plenty of time left, no need to stress yet...

[RedDevil89]

The only concern now is if they win by more than 13 as per Sando's original post. Up 16-8 with 6 to go!! hopefully if they score another they dont convert!

[RedDevil89]

LUCKY....5min to go they almost scored under the post but they knocked on!

[RedDevil89]

penetrate they scored in last minute, kick to come from sideline!!! MISS it man come on

[RedDevil89]

Damn...22-8

[Ghenghis Kahn]

hey sando, how much do the top nrl players make?

do they make anywhere close to nfl players?

[Rustyglobes]

Damn that's a sickening beat, i didn't have the guts to play the margin, so just took Scotland ml. That sucks how they coverted that last try from right on the sideline. Unlucky guys but definitely was the right play, you capped the game well Sando!

[sando]

Screwed in the last minute... Arghhhh

hey sando, how much do the top nrl players make?

do they make anywhere close to nfl players?

The best NRL players are on around 1 mil per year, so I'm guessing that's less than a high draft pick rookie contract in NFL?

[Rustyglobes]

hey sando, how much do the top nrl players make?

do they make anywhere close to nfl players?

Not even close mate, Billy Slater is probably the highest paid player in the NRL and he earns around the $900k mark while the minimum salary in the NFL is around the $350k region and the average is around the $4 million dollars

[Mase of Base]

hey sando, how much do the top nrl players make?

do they make anywhere close to nfl players?

Not even close! The salary cap for the entire team is about $5 million I believe which is slowly increasing in the future. The top guys earn around 400k-500k a year I'm pretty sure. The back up punters (I assume they exist!) would earn more than these guys!

[Ghenghis Kahn]

wow that's it?

it would be fun to see US sending out some decent players that could keep up with NZ and AUS.

but if there's no money in the sport, doubt that'll ever happen.

[sando]

Not even close! The salary cap for the entire team is about $5 million I believe which is slowly increasing in the future. The top guys earn around 400k-500k a year I'm pretty sure. The back up punters (I assume they exist!) would earn more than these guys!

Your right on the salary cap mate, but individually guys like JT and Inglis are getting paid. (JT on 1M next season).

[sando]

wow that's it?

it would be fun to see US sending out some decent players that could keep up with NZ and AUS.

but if there's no money in the sport, doubt that'll ever happen.

I know you guys (USA) don't care about Rugby League but you should be happy to know that the Tomahawk's have been amazingly good this World Cup, after never having previously won a match in World Cup history they have now barged their way into the quarter finals against Australia...

(I'm actually half Australian half American, which is why I'm obsessed with both Aus and US sports)

[Mase of Base]

Your right on the salary cap mate, but individually guys like JT and Inglis are getting paid. (JT on 1M next season).

Ah cheers you guys had already answered by time most post showed, was way off!

[sando]

NZ v Papua New Guinea

1.5* Under 63.5 (-110/$1.90 Sportsbet)

[plekz]

Best i can get is under/over 60.5 or under/over 66.5, what would you recommend?

[ohdecas]

Taling with what I found in my book: U62 @1.909

Let's get this!!

[RedDevil89]

It's moved to 65.5 on sportsbet!

[Dr.Gonzo]

NZ v Papua New Guinea

1.5* Under 63.5 (-110/$1.90 Sportsbet)

I took U64.5 with the same mob, don't know why they eased it when everyone else firmed it

[horja1]

It's moved to 65.5 on sportsbet!

62.5 Bet365

[Rustyglobes]

centrebet doesn't even offer a total for this game, ridiculous!!

[plekz]

I can get tot u68.5 for 1.50x and i was thinking of throwing this in a parlay with another 1.55 (that i feel confident in) i just wanted to check in with the people here who know ALOT more about Rugby then i do, as far as i can tell there hasn't been a single game so far this tournament that has reached these kinda numbers, in fact only one game has gone above 60

So how 'safe' would you say this bet is that this one stays under 66.5?

[odog11]

Only have 62 as an option.

Sando, et al what are the key total numbers in RL? Imagine they are not quite as strong as in NFL?

[Grunch]

Only have 62 as an option.

Sando, et al what are the key total numbers in RL? Imagine they are not quite as strong as in NFL?

Even numbers are key. 1 point plays are basically only made as tie breakers when teams think the game could end in a tie. All other scoring is 2 and 4 points so this game will not have a 63 point total unless someone kicks a field goal for shits and giggles.

[Mase of Base]

Only have 62 as an option.

Sando, et al what are the key total numbers in RL? Imagine they are not quite as strong as in NFL?

There are definitely key numbers at the lower end of totals with how good goal kickers are now days imo. But a total this high it's impossible to know how many conversions are going to be missed and as has previously been stated odd numbers aren't anything to worry about in this one, 63.5 & 62.5 will be exactly the same bet.

[plekz]

So what kind of game do you anticipate Mase of Base?

[Mase of Base]

So what kind of game do you anticipate Mase of Base?

Still thinking about it to be honest. Coverage here starts soon so going to check how the field is, had a look on BBC weather sounds fine but might be a bit wet.

PNG have committed far to many errors this tournament if they cut them out the under could come in with room to breathe I think. If they drop balls in their own half like they did against Samoa they're going to get burned. They gave up 28 in the first half against Samoa and from memory and maybe about 22 of those were from giving the ball up in horrible positions on the pitch. They shouldn't score more than ten (should be 0 but can see a consolation try maybe two).

So for the under it's got a lot to do with PNG completing sets, scrums are good clock killers so they can drop the ball just not inside their own 20!

I like the play.

[Donkey]

nz look fantastic in this opening period

[Mase of Base]

Looks like PNG making errors is going to have nothing to with it...... they can't get the ball.

That SBW try was a good laugh so close to going dead again, even the ref had a chuckle!

[reddZor]

fkn png score a try with a minute remaining wtf.