Wow, books aren't messing around with Game 2

Sam Odom · 10-24-13, 12:00 AM

Just pick the winner... Dont over think it

Vinnie Paz · 10-24-13, 12:29 AM

Statement line
Cards bounce back......i guess

VegasInsider · 10-24-13, 12:39 AM

There is nothing tonight that showed you the Cards can win in Boston. You're taking the Cards based on one of two things..

A. Betting ON this rookie

B. Betting AGAINST Lackey

That is everything you have to go on. The Sox dominating the entire game. The Cards looked nervous, outmatched and hesitant in Game 1

thechaoz · 10-24-13, 12:46 AM

They looked lost

Marigold HD · 10-24-13, 01:24 AM

Cards game 2

Seto · 10-24-13, 01:37 AM

Sox +100 at home seems to good to be true.. You've gotta think Wacha is due for a bad game.

But that's probably just what it is, too good to be true. Can't ignore this statement from the books given what total shit the Cards looked like yesterday. I think it's Cards or nothing, nothing being if you fear a bad outing for Wacha which is surely coming at some point.

Domestic · 10-24-13, 02:07 AM

Terrible line, you're right.
Just go with who you think wins, books are not trying to mindfuck you.

konck · 10-24-13, 02:31 AM

Cards win Bosox still a small fav Bosox-108 Cards -102 I also like under 7 even

jjgold · 10-24-13, 06:13 AM

Forget chasing and the due theory it does not work

Ride hot team Boston

LT Profits · 10-24-13, 06:18 AM

I am more inclined to think there is no reason to believe Wacha is due for a bad game. Why should he be after allowing more than two earned runs just twice during the regular season? The kid is the real deal, it is not as if he is pitching way over his head or anything where you'd expect a lot of regression. If the regression is allowing two or three runs, that is fine.

Seto · 10-24-13, 06:41 AM

Originally posted by LT Profits

I am more inclined to think there is no reason to believe Wacha is due for a bad game. Why should he be after allowing more than two earned runs just twice during the regular season? The kid is the real deal, it is not as if he is pitching way over his head or anything where you'd expect a lot of regression. If the regression is allowing two or three runs, that is fine.

I don't think he is pitching way over his head, it's probably a dumb due theory that the postseason pessure will eventually get to him and aces do have the occasional bad game.

But yeah it's probably dumb.

HockeyRocks · 10-24-13, 06:42 AM

Either bet Boston or wait until Game 3 to bet the Cards.. One thing i NEVER do, Bet against Boston at Fenway Park no matter who they are playing nor who is pitching...

LT Profits · 10-24-13, 06:49 AM

Originally posted by HockeyRocks

Either bet Boston or wait until Game 3 to bet the Cards.. One thing i NEVER do, Bet against Boston at Fenway Park no matter who they are playing nor who is pitching...

I think if you want to bet Cards series, NOW is the time to do it because if they lose tonight, they are not winning series. I am not by the way, I am just going game by game, but for anyone considering Cards series bet, now or never to max out value.

jjgold · 10-24-13, 06:54 AM

Boston just knows how to win

This team killer me

LT Profits · 10-24-13, 06:59 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Boston just knows how to win

This team killer me

And Cardinals don't? There is a reason these teams tied for the best record in baseball.

Bet10Heinekens · 10-24-13, 07:00 AM

Lackey is highly flammable gas can material, even though his numbers are better at Fenway...Cards still touch him up for 4-5 runs

LT Profits · 10-24-13, 07:13 AM

Originally posted by VegasInsider

There is nothing tonight that showed you the Cards can win in Boston. You're taking the Cards based on one of two things..

A. Betting ON this rookie

B. Betting AGAINST Lackey

That is everything you have to go on. The Sox dominating the entire game. The Cards looked nervous, outmatched and hesitant in Game 1

Not true at all, biggest reason to bet the Cardinals is because they have what has been the best pitcher this post-season on the mound, it does not matter that he is a rookie, was was a rookie when he made his first three playoff starts too.

And like I said, he was great all year so this is not an aberration. And Cards are not "nervous", they still have guys on the team that won World Series before, including with Cards two years ago. Don't overreact to one bad game.

2daBank · 10-24-13, 08:03 AM

Originally posted by VegasInsider

There is nothing tonight that showed you the Cards can win in Boston. You're taking the Cards based on one of two things..

A. Betting ON this rookie

B. Betting AGAINST Lackey

That is everything you have to go on. The Sox dominating the entire game. The Cards looked nervous, outmatched and hesitant in Game 1

this is comical.cards played a bad gm, period..now you acting like they not in red sox league? that beyond ignorant...

SBR_John · 10-24-13, 08:07 AM

Originally posted by LT Profits

Not true at all, biggest reason to bet the Cardinals is because they have what has been the best pitcher this post-season on the mound, it does not matter that he is a rookie, was was a rookie when he made his first three playoff starts too.

And like I said, he was great all year so this is not an aberration. And Cards are not "nervous", they still have guys on the team that won World Series before, including with Cards two years ago. Don't overreact to one bad game.

Agree..mostly. The Cards were terrible in game 1. But they didn't back into the world series. They lost focus in game 1 but as LT mentioned this is a battle hardened group. Probably a pretty decent spot to take the birds at a skinny price.

InTheDrink · 10-24-13, 08:12 AM

Originally posted by SBR_John

Agree..mostly. The Cards were terrible in game 1. But they didn't back into the world series. They lost focus in game 1 but as LT mentioned this is a battle hardened group. Probably a pretty decent spot to take the birds at a skinny price.

this is skinny like jjer when everyone thought it would be skinny like shari

whtsox13 · 10-24-13, 08:15 AM

Cards +101.

Big Bear · 10-24-13, 08:19 AM

Originally posted by No coincidences

If you like the Cardinals and think they'll even the series on Thursday, forget about the + number.

You're going to get a rookie starter in Fenway with the pressure of not falling behind 0-2....for -110.

I wanted to take St. Louis initially, but man, that's a shitty number.

Trust me coin. -110 for Wacha Flocka is a GREAT number.

Fenway pressure? There is no reason to feel pressure when you got
the greatest catcher in the history of baseball behind the dish.

Yadier Molina is phenomenal at working with pitchers and Wacha
doesnt have to think at all. This should be like a bullpen session to him.
He will not feel like he is out there alone. yadier is going to call all of his pitches.
All Wacha has to do is play catch.

The Red Sox will not touch him the first time they have ever seen him. TRUST ME.

This kid is the real deal. The Cardinals knew what they had in this kid
and were very smart to bring him along slow and kinda keep him as a secret weapon..

He throws 98mph with ease. With a nasty deuce. Couple that with a smart catcher and the other team is fukked.

jjgold · 10-24-13, 08:19 AM

These games are complete guesses

So even

ApricotSinner32 · 10-24-13, 08:20 AM

All these games are rigged you stupid fuks stop trying to handicap with reason just fade the money.

2daBank · 10-24-13, 08:29 AM

Originally posted by whtsox13

Cards +101.

keep waiting.,. better number to come, i think..

Big Bear · 10-24-13, 08:29 AM

Originally posted by ApricotSinner32

All these games are rigged you stupid fuks stop trying to handicap with reason just fade the money.

you realize the only rigging in sports comes from umpires-referees

the players dont lose on purpose especially in the playoffs.

There is only so much a referee can influence a game.

In baseball yeah a umpire can squeeze a certain pitcher
but if the batter can't hit a 98mph fastball the umpire
cant do shit about it.

whtsox13 · 10-24-13, 08:44 AM

Originally posted by No coincidences

If you like the Cardinals and think they'll even the series on Thursday, forget about the + number.

You're going to get a rookie starter in Fenway with the pressure of not falling behind 0-2....for -110.

I wanted to take St. Louis initially, but man, that's a shitty number.

Cards +110 now.

2daBank · 10-24-13, 08:50 AM

Originally posted by whtsox13

Cards +110 now.

the bright side of playing like complete and utter horse shit in gm 1.. keep going up please, ill take wacha flame vs lackey at plus money all day.. id assume lackey being a righty that kosma garbage ass be out of lineup and descalso be in at short..

ApricotSinner32 · 10-24-13, 08:52 AM

Originally posted by Big Bear

you realize the only rigging in sports comes from umpires-referees

the players dont lose on purpose especially in the playoffs.

There is only so much a referee can influence a game.

In baseball yeah a umpire can squeeze a certain pitcher
but if the batter can't hit a 98mph fastball the umpire
cant do shit about it.

At the end of it all life is about money you need it to survive. What do you think the players want more their paycheck or a world series? I don't give a penetrate what they say publicly thats just for the human pawns to buy in to. Get a clue jerkoff

thetrinity · 10-24-13, 08:55 AM

like anyone gives a penetrate what a boston strong avatar has to say on this series, same thing with a cardinals one if they show up 2

amrit · 10-24-13, 08:56 AM

+110.

amrit · 10-24-13, 08:57 AM

Sorry didn't see posts above. I think you gotta take Wacha at + money.

matthew919 · 10-24-13, 08:57 AM

Wacha is the real thing.

Money line is accurate though- Boston should be small favorites here.

R.P. McMurphy · 10-24-13, 09:04 AM

Guess the angles I can think of is the pressure will obviously be higher this series than NLCS. Not just because it's the W.S. but his team is behind now. He played with a series lead both times vs Dodgers who were also not healthy and outta their zone at the plate for most of that series. Now he is down 0-1 on the BIGGEST stage and the weight in tonights game to not let his team go down 0-2 will be a heavier burden than he has carried. Add to that Lackey on the other side, post season at Fenway, and a hot hitting Sox team that seems destined!