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  • wizcodlifa
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 01-10-12
    • 921

    #1
    Help with line movements!
    So i am basically learning and studying everyday, i would like to attempt to master this topic, or at least become very familiar with it. Will someone please tell me what to look at with line movements? What a big movement means? Based on how many people are on one side, and percentage on one side?

    PLEASE HELP
  • RudyRuetigger
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 08-24-10
    • 65107

    #2
    Taiwanese
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    • tto827
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 10-01-12
      • 9078

      #3
      No coin check in
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      • billysink
        Restricted User
        • 03-29-09
        • 5172

        #4
        Unless you have handicapped the game with a thorough and consistent approach, line movements are slightly less important than bowel movements. For most here they are as insignificant as the day is long. That does not keep most of these cats from chasing there tail.

        A big movement usually is a two flusher or go get the fukkin drumstik.
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        • jjgold
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 07-20-05
          • 388208

          #5
          Most books move lines because Don Best Line service moves the lines on their screen

          It's not based on action for most books
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          • Big Bear
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 11-01-11
            • 43253

            #6
            ask no coincidences he is an expert on line movement
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            • artyfudgepacker
              SBR MVP
              • 01-06-13
              • 2205

              #7
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              • Big Bear
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 11-01-11
                • 43253

                #8
                LT profits check in
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                • wizcodlifa
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 01-10-12
                  • 921

                  #9
                  i really need some help on this ha! its not like i am asking for anyones systems or how they cap, i just want to no what people think of line movements.. PLEASE
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                  • The Giant
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 01-21-12
                    • 21480

                    #10
                    Line movements are generally just a way of mindfukking you. Pay them no attention.
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                    • wizcodlifa
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 01-10-12
                      • 921

                      #11
                      Originally posted by The Giant
                      Line movements are generally just a way of mindfukking you. Pay them no attention.

                      idk if i believe that
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                      • The Giant
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 01-21-12
                        • 21480

                        #12
                        Just track it for yourself a while.

                        And while you're at it, head over to Covers and research on some past games, and see if you can find any trends based on specific line moves.

                        I'm sure with your newfound knowledge you'll be rich within no time.

                        Best of luck.
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                        • wizcodlifa
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 01-10-12
                          • 921

                          #13
                          Originally posted by The Giant
                          Just track it for yourself a while.

                          And while you're at it, head over to Covers and research on some past games, and see if you can find any trends based on specific line moves.

                          I'm sure with your newfound knowledge you'll be rich within no time.

                          Best of luck.

                          enough with the sarcasm. i asked a simple question, if ya aint gonna answer it the right way, dont answer it. Typical people who get off to drama
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                          • The Giant
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 01-21-12
                            • 21480

                            #14
                            Three out of the four lines weren't sarcastic.

                            The third line I couldn't help myself.
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                            • brettd
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 01-25-10
                              • 229

                              #15
                              I generated a 56.9% record over 800 plays steaming CFB/CBB/NBA/NHL before most books kicked me out. You can make money tracking line movements, up to a point.

                              Then it becomes worth your time learning how to become a modeler.
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                              • jjgold
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 07-20-05
                                • 388208

                                #16
                                Bret is it hard??

                                Bet at bookmaker??
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                                • husky
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 08-14-13
                                  • 261

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by brettd
                                  I generated a 56.9% record over 800 plays steaming CFB/CBB/NBA/NHL before most books kicked me out. You can make money tracking line movements, up to a point.

                                  Then it becomes worth your time learning how to become a modeler.
                                  Brett...can I ask what some of your parameters were for "steaming" in terms of how much of a move, or how many books needed to move? And I assume you were using Sports Insights or Don Best?
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                                  • Lowpine
                                    SBR Rookie
                                    • 10-16-12
                                    • 17

                                    #18
                                    Money moves lines, not public percentages.

                                    Personally, when I cap a game, have less than 35% of the public on my side, and my line gets less favorable over time is the ideal situation.
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                                    • RudyRuetigger
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 08-24-10
                                      • 65107

                                      #19
                                      ofcourse line movements work....otherwise there would be no such thing as steam.
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                                      • Wojo
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 03-19-10
                                        • 1764

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by jjgold
                                        Most books move lines because Don Best Line service moves the lines on their screen

                                        It's not based on action for most books
                                        First, Don Best does not set any lines. They report lines. Don Best is NOT moving the lines.

                                        You need to know why there is movement in a line. You need to watch certain key books that give a tell on which direction the line will finally move to. People who just bet the same direction the line moves will not be long term winners. There is much more to it than that.
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                                        • wizcodlifa
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 01-10-12
                                          • 921

                                          #21
                                          need to learn it, i believe it works. but that doesnt help me learn it
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                                          • rfr3sh
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 11-07-09
                                            • 10229

                                            #22
                                            watch sharp books vs square books
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                                            • Wojo
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 03-19-10
                                              • 1764

                                              #23
                                              Successfully betting on sports long-term requires a lot of time educating yourself.

                                              GL2U!
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                                              • wizcodlifa
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 01-10-12
                                                • 921

                                                #24
                                                Can anyone help me more in depth! Ill pay!
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                                                • hutennis
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 07-11-10
                                                  • 847

                                                  #25
                                                  Lines move very rapidly as a reaction to new information.
                                                  Due to a random nature of both reasons behind new information and timing it becomes available,
                                                  it is impossible to accurately predict line movements.
                                                  It is also very, very hard to analyse meanings behind moves fast and accurately enough to be able to profit from it.

                                                  Personally, I din't see any reason to waste any time on it.
                                                  At best, one can simply try to "chase steam" which, when done properly, can have +EV
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                                                  • wizcodlifa
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 01-10-12
                                                    • 921

                                                    #26
                                                    What's chasing stream??
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                                                    • wizcodlifa
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 01-10-12
                                                      • 921

                                                      #27
                                                      So a perfect example is tomorrow's Akron vs Central Florida game. Game opened at 28, UCF favored, but dropped to 21.5 even tho te public is on UCF at about 80 %

                                                      What does this mean??
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                                                      • lakerboy
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 04-02-09
                                                        • 94463

                                                        #28
                                                        Line movement is not as profitable as it once was. You can still cherry pick and win some . The only problem is when you chase steam and then it goes the other way just before it is off the board and too late to bet it. You already know you lost. Look at late money instead and watch odd lines that make no sense.
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                                                        • rfr3sh
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 11-07-09
                                                          • 10229

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by wizcodlifa
                                                          So a perfect example is tomorrow's Akron vs Central Florida game. Game opened at 28, UCF favored, but dropped to 21.5 even tho te public is on UCF at about 80 %

                                                          What does this mean??
                                                          UCF will win by 23
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                                                          • tatehill2000
                                                            SBR High Roller
                                                            • 05-17-07
                                                            • 187

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by rfr3sh
                                                            UCF will win by 23
                                                            lol,,, yep,,,,, well,,, 22 to be exact,,, as you will have 21.5 lol,,

                                                            WIZ,,, I get your wanting to learn,,, take a second and Post a note asking to meet with local guys in your city here on this site,, person to person is the only way your really gonna get fast tracked here,
                                                            good luck to you
                                                            tater
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                                                            • wizcodlifa
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 01-10-12
                                                              • 921

                                                              #31
                                                              i dont think there is anyone from here that is from my hometown.
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                                                              • byronbb
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 11-13-08
                                                                • 3067

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by rfr3sh
                                                                watch sharp books vs square books

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                                                                • Wojo
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 03-19-10
                                                                  • 1764

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by wizcodlifa
                                                                  So a perfect example is tomorrow's Akron vs Central Florida game. Game opened at 28, UCF favored, but dropped to 21.5 even tho te public is on UCF at about 80 %
                                                                  Where did you see it opening at UCF -28? First BIG lesson, know exactly where it opened at and what the limits of that book are on those early lines.

                                                                  Next, more important information to know is not the % of the public is betting on a team, but what is the percentage of money is being bet on which team.

                                                                  Where was the -28 posted at and when?
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                                                                  • wizcodlifa
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 01-10-12
                                                                    • 921

                                                                    #34
                                                                    whats sharp books vs square books???
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                                                                    • Wojo
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 03-19-10
                                                                      • 1764

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I'll ask again, where and when did you see -28 for UCF?

                                                                      If you can't answer that, you entire premise is false.
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