Who's the smartest? The books or the selection committee?

[seaborneq]

Every year there will be a few games in which the higher seed(6 vs 3, 10 vs 7 for example) will actually be favored over the lower seed. Who do you have the most confidence in when that happens? The books or the selection committee.

[Huckleberry Pig]

The Books, there's a reason those big buildings in vegas are so nice...

[seaborneq]

Minny is favored over UCLA. A 6 vs 11. Go figure.

[Easy-Rider 66]

The Books. The line is a true indication of the power ratings imo.

[Stallion]

Books.

[mcduggly]

The Books, there's a reason those big buildings in vegas are so nice...

But yes, I agree that the books are superior.

[seaborneq]

So is this a guaranteed staple? and what happens when there are very few upsets. Are the books still the smartest?

[tto827]

They have very different goals. NCAA tourney is not based on a true power rating as vegas odds are on a neutral court. Gonzaga is not the 4th most likely to win the tourney according to most people, but they really did have to be a 1 seed with what they have done this season.

[seaborneq]

They have very different goals. NCAA tourney is not based on a true power rating as vegas odds are on a neutral court. Gonzaga is not the 4th most likely to win the tourney according to most people, but they really did have to be a 1 seed with what they have done this season.

The court is not always neutral. MSU and MICH are playing in Auburn Hills, Cal is playing in San Jose, K State is playing in Kansas City, and on and on. So that is not true. May not be "home" games, but definitely not neutral.

[str]

So is this a guaranteed staple? and what happens when there are very few upsets. Are the books still the smartest?

Yes. Their job is not picking winners.

[seaborneq]

Yes. Their job is not picking winners.

When you are playing a bracket, winners are all that count.

[70'sMan]

People motivated by money versus people motivated by politics.

[k13]

# of wins by Conference o/u

Atlantic 10, 4.5
Mountain West, 4.5
SEC, 4.5




Beyond pathetic.

[coop]

the selection committee????

if the books put out a line saying the sky was gonna fall, I'd head for the cellar

[Maxxx]

Definately the books....

[Louisvillekid1]

Sea,

Remember seeding is based on season long results, the lines are current for this specific match up and how you're playing right now.

GL

[the_situation]

serious question? books obviously

[seaborneq]

We have a good idea of what the books think, the selection puts in work too. Let's not get carried away and think the books are head and shoulders about the selection committee.

[seaborneq]

Just based on future matchups I can see Mich St being favored over duke if they play, OSU being favored over Gonzaga, and Florida being favored over GTown, just to name a few.

[Louisvillekid1]

Just based on future matchups I can see Mich St being favored over duke if they play, OSU being favored over Gonzaga, and Florida being favored over GTown, just to name a few.

Duke will be favored 100%

I agree w/ Florida and OSU

[seaborneq]

Duke will be favored 100%

I agree w/ Florida and OSU

Let Duke struggle and Mich St play lights out before they meet and that 100% will go to 0.

[seaborneq]

People motivated by money versus people motivated by politics.

Sums it all up. America at its finest.

[ebbearsfb1]

Just look at the davidson/marquette game.. 14 vs a 3 yet only a 3 point dog

[Sawyer]

pinnacle Sports.

[seaborneq]

Just look at the davidson/marquette game.. 14 vs a 3 yet only a 3 point dog

So if Marquette boat races Davidson, who was the smartest? The books or the selection committee?

[Huckleberry Pig]

the selection committee????

if the books put out a line saying the sky was gonna fall, I'd head for the cellar

[No coincidences]

Just based on future matchups I can see Mich St being favored over duke if they play, OSU being favored over Gonzaga, and Florida being favored over GTown, just to name a few.

Yeah -- no.

[Reload]

Always go with the books there. Squares get killed every year taking the points with higher seeds.

[seaborneq]

A professional athletes prime years????

What would you think they are in NFL, NBA, and MLB?

Just heard Legler say a NBA's players prime years are 25-32. I would think when the mental and physical combine at their peak is much shorter than that and is much shorter. MJ was at his physical peak at probably 27-28, while he was mentally better from 32-36. So that would make his peak about 28 to 31.

In the NFL, I would think the peak years are 25-28, and would venture to say by the time you really understand the game mentally the body has abandoned the player. At 30 in the NFL a player probably has seen it all yet can't perform the necessary moves required to make big plays, a la Kevin Faulk. Randy Moss was probably more in tune with the Pats his first year, but no where near the athletic freak he was before he went to the Raiders, where he just outjumped and outquicked everyone in front of him. It may be different for qb's but all others probably fall in the 25-28 range.

In MLB, I would think the peak years are 26-31. Since musculature doesn't factor in as much and skil
ls probably sharpen more than actual physical ability. Albert Pujols would be my exhibit A, and Ken Griffey fell apart after 31.

Feedback

[seaborneq]

Always go with the books there. Squares get killed every year taking the points with higher seeds.

I will watch closely this year to see how many times it will happen. Minny is already a fave against UCLA.

[EASports]

Committee's have agenda's with no risk. Books have an agenda to manage their risk. During the next few weeks books will be taking on huge risk.

[seaborneq]

Committee's have agenda's with no risk. Books have an agenda to manage their risk. During the next few weeks books will be taking on huge risk.

Would that be harder now versus any other time of the year? Don't books take a huge risk every time they post a line? What is so different during March Madness?

[2daBank]

I will watch closely this year to see how many times it will happen. Minny is already a fave against UCLA.

st mary's a fav over memphis as well.

[2daBank]

What would you think they are in NFL, NBA, and MLB?

Just heard Legler say a NBA's players prime years are 25-32. I would think when the mental and physical combine at their peak is much shorter than that and is much shorter. MJ was at his physical peak at probably 27-28, while he was mentally better from 32-36. So that would make his peak about 28 to 31.

In the NFL, I would think the peak years are 25-28, and would venture to say by the time you really understand the game mentally the body has abandoned the player. At 30 in the NFL a player probably has seen it all yet can't perform the necessary moves required to make big plays, a la Kevin Faulk. Randy Moss was probably more in tune with the Pats his first year, but no where near the athletic freak he was before he went to the Raiders, where he just outjumped and outquicked everyone in front of him. It may be different for qb's but all others probably fall in the 25-28 range.

In MLB, I would think the peak years are 26-31. Since musculature doesn't factor in as much and skil
ls probably sharpen more than actual physical ability. Albert Pujols would be my exhibit A, and Ken Griffey fell apart after 31.

Feedback

depends on their pharmacist..

[seaborneq]

st mary's a fav over memphis as well.

You are kidding?