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  • lunchbawks
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    • 01-31-10
    • 12873

    #1
    Canada/ USA 4am
    Look for the under 6 to hit

    Any hockey sharps with good insight??
  • Vegas39
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    • 09-22-11
    • 30686

    #2
    Like the under too Gibson playing good in net for US. Another 2-1 game wouldn't shock me
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    • Seaweed
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      • 01-19-12
      • 26318

      #3
      Like the over here, still looking into it.
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      • Vegas39
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        • 09-22-11
        • 30686

        #4
        Originally posted by Seaweed
        Like the over here, still looking into it.
        awesome under looking all the better
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        • DriveFor25
          SBR High Roller
          • 04-07-11
          • 174

          #5
          USA has the best defense and goaltending in the tourney. Look for them to try to grind one out. USA and the under both hit
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          • BeerDog99
            SBR MVP
            • 09-22-10
            • 4894

            #6
            I am not much of a bettor/handicapper but I think this will be over 6 points total game. Should be a good game either way!
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            • 23Edler_Salo6
              SBR High Roller
              • 02-08-12
              • 200

              #7
              I'm on under and Canada to win in regulation
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              • Vegas39
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                • 09-22-11
                • 30686

                #8
                Grabbed US +1(+115)

                U6 (+100)
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                • Coolcanuck79
                  SBR MVP
                  • 12-07-11
                  • 3189

                  #9
                  Being Canadian it's a sin not to take Canada in this game but I have to say the USA can win it and there is value there.
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                  • Deuce
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                    • 01-12-08
                    • 29843

                    #10
                    USA will win this. Take usa +1 and ML.
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                    • aggieshawn
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-24-07
                      • 4378

                      #11
                      Canada wins GOLD.... Thus Canada win this game. Very Simple.
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                      • VegasInsider
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                        • 12-12-10
                        • 14593

                        #12
                        Over 6 for me
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                        • bruins35
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                          • 09-19-11
                          • 4011

                          #13
                          usa has better d and goalie ,canada has better forwards. 3-1 usa final
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                          • CanuckG
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                            • 12-23-10
                            • 21978

                            #14
                            Canada SHOULD win but who the fukk knows how Subban plays
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                            • bruins35
                              SBR MVP
                              • 09-19-11
                              • 4011

                              #15
                              Originally posted by CanuckG
                              Canada SHOULD win but who the fukk knows how Subban plays
                              suban is money in shoot outs atleast
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                              • BigD66
                                SBR Hustler
                                • 01-29-12
                                • 54

                                #16
                                Originally posted by bruins35
                                usa has better d and goalie ,canada has better forwards. 3-1 usa final
                                Well that just simply isn't true.
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                                • sportsguy04
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 10-21-08
                                  • 11885

                                  #17
                                  Remember this is the u20 teams...
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                                  • BigD66
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                                    • 01-29-12
                                    • 54

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by sportsguy04
                                    Remember this is the u20 teams...
                                    Yes...
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                                    • 23Edler_Salo6
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 02-08-12
                                      • 200

                                      #19
                                      Incredibly hard to wager against a team with a proven NHLer and so much depth at every position. It's Canada's tournament to lose.
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                                      • bruins35
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 09-19-11
                                        • 4011

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by BigD66
                                        Well that just simply isn't true.
                                        canada gave up more shots against usa last game shots were 36-30 in favour of usa . suban is great one game crap the next ,gibson has been rock solid every game.Canadas forwards are best in tourney and thats not even up for discusion.
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                                        • gohabsgo
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 03-19-10
                                          • 1903

                                          #21
                                          value's on USA +1 .
                                          Don't think subban will peform like last time
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                                          • bruins35
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 09-19-11
                                            • 4011

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by gohabsgo
                                            value's on USA +1 .
                                            Don't think subban will peform like last time
                                            suban is shakey and i don;t trust him. not surprised at all if usa lights him up
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                                            • BigD66
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                                              • 01-29-12
                                              • 54

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by bruins35
                                              canada gave up more shots against usa last game shots were 36-30 in favour of usa . suban is great one game crap the next ,gibson has been rock solid every game.Canadas forwards are best in tourney and thats not even up for discusion.
                                              When did shots tell the whole story or well really tell much of the story at all? The USA led in shots because they were taking shots from all over the ice and throwing everything at the net, with most of their shots coming from the outside and very few actually being legitimate scoring chances. Canada was the more dangerous team in that game and had more and better scoring opportunities.

                                              I was never disputing Canada's forwards being the best.

                                              Subban vs. Gibson
                                              2012-13 Belleville Bulls OHL 26 1 0 1550 56 4 2 2.17 15 7 3 769 0.932
                                              2012-13 Kitchener Rangers OHL 20 0 4 1185 46 2 1 2.33 13 7 0 600 0.929
                                              The only goals Subban has been giving up have been terrible defensive gaffs and giveaways. Subban hasn't been inconsistent in the tournament. When he's given a proper opportunity to make the save he is making the save. He has maybe allowed one at most two "bad" goals the entire tournament and has normally been hung out to try by terrible turnovers from Scheifele and McNeil etc.

                                              Defense, Trouba has been playing really well, but otherwise I'll take Ouellete/Harrington/Rielly/Reinhart over any other American defender easily.

                                              Unless the refs decide to become the stars of the game (like USA/Czech and Russia/Swiss games) the game should be a close affair. On the powerplay the US is very dangerous, but 5on5 Canada will be and is too much for them (especially now with a full lineup). I see fatigue and depth coming into play in the third and Canada pulling away with a 5-2 win, with an empty netter.
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                                              • bruins35
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 09-19-11
                                                • 4011

                                                #24
                                                [QUOTE=BigD66;17346998]When did shots tell the whole story or well really tell much of the story at all? The USA led in shots because they were taking shots from all over the ice and throwing everything at the net, with most of their shots coming from the outside and very few actually being legitimate scoring chances. Canada was the more dangerous team in that game and had more and better scoring opportunities.

                                                I was never disputing Canada's forwards being the best.

                                                Subban vs. Gibson
                                                2012-13 Belleville Bulls OHL 26 1 1550 56 4 2 2.17 15 7 3 769 0.932
                                                2012-13 Kitchener Rangers OHL 20 4 1185 46 2 1 2.33 13 7 600 0.929
                                                The only goals Subban has been giving up have been terrible defensive gaffs and giveaways. Subban hasn't been inconsistent in the tournament. When he's given a proper opportunity to make the save he is making the save. He has maybe allowed one at most two "bad" goals the entire tournament and has normally been hung out to try by terrible turnovers from Scheifele and McNeil etc.

                                                Defense, Trouba has been playing really well, but otherwise I'll take Ouellete/Harrington/Rielly/Reinhart over any other American defender easily.

                                                Unless the refs decide to become the stars of the game (like USA/Czech and Russia/Swiss games) the game should be a close affair. On the powerplay the US is very dangerous, but 5on5 Canada will be and is too much for them (especially now with a full lineup). I see fatigue and depth coming into play in the third and Canada pulling away with a 5-2 win, with an empty netter.
                                                .932 save % is same thing as 9.29% regardless i don;t se why you think canada will win by 3 goals after grinding out a 2-1 win.
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                                                • BigD66
                                                  SBR Hustler
                                                  • 01-29-12
                                                  • 54

                                                  #25
                                                  .932 save % is same thing as 9.29% regardless i don;t se why you think canada will win by 3 goals after grinding out a 2-1 win.
                                                  Oh no doubt its really close, but still Subban has the better numbers there.

                                                  Why do I think Canada wins by 3 goals? Because the US will be playing their 6th game in 8 days, Canada has their full roster (they looked much better against Russia with their full roster than the first game against the US) and they have better scoring depth. It wouldn't surprise me to see a 2-1 type game, but as I said, I see fatigue and depth being a deciding factor and Canada pulls away late then gets the empty netter.
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                                                  • bruins35
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 09-19-11
                                                    • 4011

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by BigD66
                                                    Oh no doubt its really close, but still Subban has the better numbers there.

                                                    Why do I think Canada wins by 3 goals? Because the US will be playing their 6th game in 8 days, Canada has their full roster (they looked much better against Russia with their full roster than the first game against the US) and they have better scoring depth. It wouldn't surprise me to see a 2-1 type game, but as I said, I see fatigue and depth being a deciding factor and Canada pulls away late then gets the empty netter.
                                                    Fatigue wont matter its the bigest game of these kids life and canada won this tourney without the bye before. Don;t get wrong i think canada has better team i just think don;t trust suban hes been shakey and shouldnt have ben the starter .They said he was garbgre in the camp and those first two games of tourney.
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                                                    • BigD66
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                                                      • 01-29-12
                                                      • 54

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by bruins35
                                                      Fatigue wont matter its the bigest game of these kids life and canada won this tourney without the bye before. Don;t get wrong i think canada has better team i just think don;t trust suban hes been shakey and shouldnt have ben the starter .They said he was garbgre in the camp and those first two games of tourney.
                                                      Biggest game of their lives or not, fatigue is going to hit them. The US looked to be slowing down from it late against the Czechs, and adrenaline will only get them so far to start. Teams have won without the bye before, its a one-off tourney anything can happen, but I'll take a fresher Canadian team.

                                                      Subban did play like garbage in camp and if things went off of camp alone Paterson would be the starter for sure, but also Frank Corrado would be on the team along with Ryan Sproul and a few others. The first two games Subban was fine, as I said earlier, he got hung out to dry by bad turnovers and defensive play. He allowed one at most two goals that he "should" have stopped. Subban is also a guy who gets up for big games. Everyone seems worried about Subban, but he's 4-0 with a 2.00 GAA (with 4 of the 8 goals allowed coming short handed) and a .930 sv%, I'll take that any day of the week.
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                                                      • sportsguy04
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                                                        • 10-21-08
                                                        • 11885

                                                        #28
                                                        Usa! Usa! Usa!
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                                                        • leeloo
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                                                          • 04-11-10
                                                          • 314

                                                          #29
                                                          I haven't seen any games this tourney but will stay up and watch it. Don't really care who wins, just hope it will be a good game and the winner goes on and wins gold.
                                                          So what's the play? I was thinking under but even a 4-1 score late in the game can become 5-1 or 6-1 as the other team WILL pull their goalie. No way to predict this outcome .... might be best to go through the forum and fade the first lock.
                                                          Best of Luck to everyone.
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                                                          • Marigold HD
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                                                            • 09-03-07
                                                            • 5053

                                                            #30
                                                            4-1 Canada


                                                            Book it
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                                                            • Redman3693
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                                                              • 04-30-12
                                                              • 1312

                                                              #31
                                                              Hopefully they don't have the same refs that worked the US/CZH game. They called penalties for sneezing.
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                                                              • neverstoppers23
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                                                                • 11-26-09
                                                                • 6302

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by DriveFor25
                                                                USA has the best defense and goaltending in the tourney. Look for them to try to grind one out. USA and the under both hit
                                                                so +1.5 = good bet?
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                                                                • neverstoppers23
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                                                                  • 11-26-09
                                                                  • 6302

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Marigold HD
                                                                  4-1 Canada


                                                                  Book it
                                                                  o Canada
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                                                                  • suicidekings
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                                                                    • 03-23-09
                                                                    • 9962

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Obvious value on the US at +350 in what should be a close game. Watching and cheering for Canada to pull off the win though. Go Canada!
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                                                                    • neverstoppers23
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                                                                      • 11-26-09
                                                                      • 6302

                                                                      #35
                                                                      should rar(me) put +1.5 or not rar needs to know
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