can someone explain the Giants playoff picture to me? how are they out of division?

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  • darkhat
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    • 08-18-10
    • 5722

    #36
    it's virtually non existent
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    • BigDofBA
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 09-30-09
      • 19313

      #37
      So did anyone ever figure out what tie-breaker Dallas wins if they beat Washington? I've been out all evening and haven't had a chance to watch any sports.

      I understand that the Giants are all but done and have not shot at the Division. They must have three teams lose and win to get a wild card.

      As for Dallas and Washington, assuming Dallas wins, both teams will have the same record, same division record, and be 1-1 head to head. The only other thing is the conference record which Washington would win. So how does Dallas win the tie-breaker if all those variables are a push?

      It has to be common opponents or something.
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      • lakerboy
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 04-02-09
        • 94379

        #38
        strength of schedule dofba.
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        • BigDofBA
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 09-30-09
          • 19313

          #39
          Originally posted by lakerboy
          strength of schedule dofba.
          No. That's not it.

          It was record against common opponents.

          With that said, I've been a Dallas fan my entire life and I haven't had confidence in them winning a game like this in 15 years.

          RGIII at home looks like a winning bet.
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          • lakerboy
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            • 04-02-09
            • 94379

            #40
            then why were you asking?
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            • BigDofBA
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 09-30-09
              • 19313

              #41
              Originally posted by lakerboy
              then why were you asking?
              I found out like 1 minute after my first post.

              Has strength of schedule ever been a tie-breaker for anything in pro sports? I'm pretty sure it gets down to flipping a coin before strength of schedule.
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              • GamblerSpirit
                SBR MVP
                • 11-18-11
                • 4085

                #42
                Originally posted by BigDofBA
                I found out like 1 minute after my first post.

                Has strength of schedule ever been a tie-breaker for anything in pro sports? I'm pretty sure it gets down to flipping a coin before strength of schedule.
                That's the last resort. Think about it, it's silly to determine who's a better team simply by flipping a coin.
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                • indio
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 06-03-11
                  • 751

                  #43
                  In the NFC playoff race for the final 2 spots, there are only 4 games that have any relevance. Dallas at Wash, Green Bay at Minny, Chicago at Detroit, and Philly at NY. So there are 16 scenarios possible. I will base these on the following chances of the 4 game outcomes. This is my own personal approximations, but I'm sure they will be somewhat close to market prices.

                  NY (80%) vs Philly (20%)
                  GB (62%) vs Minny (38%)
                  Chicago (60%) vs Detroit (40%)
                  Wash (58%) vs Dallas (42%)

                  Giving these chances of individual game outcomes and the appropriate tie breakers, here are the approximate chances of winning the WILD CARD.

                  Minnesota 40.88% (+145)
                  Chicago 37.20% (+170)
                  NY 11.51% (+770)
                  Washington 10.41 % (+860)

                  And then, since Wash or Dallas will win the NFC East, here are the chances of a team making the playoffs. With 2 playoff spots at stake, this market will obviously add up to 200%

                  Washington 68.41%
                  Dallas 42 %
                  Minny 40.88%
                  Chicago 37.2%
                  NY 11.51%

                  And finally, here are my approximate chances of any of these 5 teams winning the NFC = 0%
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                  • indio
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 06-03-11
                    • 751

                    #44
                    Originally posted by BigDofBA
                    I found out like 1 minute after my first post.

                    Has strength of schedule ever been a tie-breaker for anything in pro sports? I'm pretty sure it gets down to flipping a coin before strength of schedule.
                    Here is the official tie-breaking formulas

                    www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures
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                    • agendaman
                      SBR MVP
                      • 12-01-11
                      • 3734

                      #45
                      re/final nfl. wk. of season if giants beat eagles and g.bay beats viks. and lions beat bears and skins beat dallas they get a wild card
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                      • 1brokegirl
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 12-19-12
                        • 150

                        #46
                        ok heres my take om play off picture

                        1st off Packers will rest starters @ vikings let Vikings in WC spot then they take care of them in playoffs

                        Giants now have shot to repeat last years record exactly 9-7 3-3 in div and be in as a WC

                        but holy Cow G men wtf last tow games 34-0 then another huge dd loss

                        wheres that big blue defense at ?


                        Now eagles have Vick go in rusty @ Giants

                        fooking Eagles sign trent edawrds for over 500 K and never use him ???


                        SMH

                        Patriots will lose in Playoffs again beacuse as you seen that defense is still alwooing even the worst teams in NFL to score 20 or more points

                        watch their Rival Dolphins take em out at N E

                        Redskins will lose in playoffs 1st game rookie QB's never make it out of playoffs

                        so maybe giants get deep again but Packers will beat them


                        Cowboys who knows what will happen

                        AFC only two teams are superbowl eligiblee to win Texans and Bengals
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                        • darkhat
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 08-18-10
                          • 5722

                          #47
                          there is nothing to explain

                          giants will not make the playoffs

                          end of the story
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                          • milwaukee mike
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 08-22-07
                            • 26914

                            #48
                            1brokegirl your analysis makes no sense

                            you think the vikings will get in as a wildcard AND the giants? not possible

                            either seattle or san francisco is already one of the wildcards

                            and then in the afc you say the 2 favorites can't make the superbowl?? - broncos/patriots
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