can someone explain the Giants playoff picture to me? how are they out of division?

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  • zoo youk
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 10-23-11
    • 10701

    #1
    can someone explain the Giants playoff picture to me? how are they out of division?
    at the end of the Washington game announcer said "and Washington will be playing for the division title in Dallas"

    but Joe Buck just said if Giants win today they aren't totally eliminated...just as I was posting this so I was fully paying attention the situations, think he said if Dallas wins and Giants win out, Giants win the division? Giants have split with the Skins on the year 1-1 correct?
  • tatommack
    SBR MVP
    • 10-10-08
    • 4171

    #2
    They need to win next two and the cowboys beat the skins next week.
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    • d2bets
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 08-10-05
      • 39995

      #3
      They're not out of the division, but Wash wins the division with a win next week. Giants can still get a wild card. But if they lose today they are pretty much done in the WC chase as well -- they would need a lot of help.
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      • playersonly69
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        • 01-04-08
        • 12827

        #4
        If Giants win the next 2 and Washington loses next week, then Giants win the division
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        • JerseyRobby
          SBR MVP
          • 12-14-11
          • 1494

          #5
          He never said anything about the division but they Giants DO control their own destiny. If they win the next 2 they are in as a Wild card no matter what but the way they are playing it may not matter.
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          • k13
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            • 07-16-10
            • 18104

            #6
            Lose today and out.
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            • Ambition
              SBR MVP
              • 11-17-11
              • 2060

              #7
              Originally posted by k13
              Lose today and out.
              That's false. If Giants lose today they can win next week and still make it with a Minnesota loss. Which makes no sense to me.
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              • Ambition
                SBR MVP
                • 11-17-11
                • 2060

                #8
                Originally posted by zoo youk
                at the end of the Washington game announcer said "and Washington will be playing for the division title in Dallas"

                but Joe Buck just said if Giants win today they aren't totally eliminated...just as I was posting this so I was fully paying attention the situations, think he said if Dallas wins and Giants win out, Giants win the division? Giants have split with the Skins on the year 1-1 correct?
                Head to head doesn't matter when it comes to division. I believe it's the division record which matters first.

                Washington 4-1 in the division.
                Giants 2-3 in the division.
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                • k13
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 07-16-10
                  • 18104

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Ambition
                  That's false. If Giants lose today they can win next week and still make it with a Minnesota loss. Which makes no sense to me.
                  Bears win out and Giants out with a loss today.
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                  • tto827
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 10-01-12
                    • 9078

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Ambition
                    Head to head doesn't matter when it comes to division. I believe it's the division record which matters first.

                    Washington 4-1 in the division.
                    Giants 2-3 in the division.
                    Head to head is ALWAYS the first tiebreaker. Then division record, then conference record.
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                    • 2daBank
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 01-26-09
                      • 88966

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Ambition
                      Head to head doesn't matter when it comes to division. I believe it's the division record which matters first.

                      Washington 4-1 in the division.
                      Giants 2-3 in the division.
                      i thought it went head to head then div?? hell if i know, shit always confuses me,,lol
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                      • 2daBank
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 01-26-09
                        • 88966

                        #12
                        Originally posted by tto827
                        Head to head is ALWAYS the first tiebreaker. Then division record, then conference record.
                        yea that what i thought
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                        • The Giant
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 01-21-12
                          • 21480

                          #13
                          Chris Berman and Tom Jackson will break down all the playoff scenarios for you in just a few hours.

                          Be patient, folks.
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                          • tto827
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 10-01-12
                            • 9078

                            #14
                            Originally posted by 2daBank
                            yea that what i thought
                            Ya, and obviously division record isn't used if teams are in different divisions.
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                            • Ambition
                              SBR MVP
                              • 11-17-11
                              • 2060

                              #15
                              Originally posted by k13
                              Bears win out and Giants out with a loss today.
                              If the Giants lose today they are not out. They still have a chance.
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                              • Ambition
                                SBR MVP
                                • 11-17-11
                                • 2060

                                #16
                                Originally posted by tto827
                                Head to head is ALWAYS the first tiebreaker. Then division record, then conference record.
                                Your correct, my mistake.
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                                • k13
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 07-16-10
                                  • 18104

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Ambition
                                  If the Giants lose today they are not out. They still have a chance.
                                  Chance, yes.

                                  Just not a very good one.
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                                  • Ambition
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 11-17-11
                                    • 2060

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by k13
                                    Chance, yes.

                                    Just not a very good one.
                                    Well your saying they are completely out which is not true.
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                                    • zoo youk
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 10-23-11
                                      • 10701

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Ambition
                                      Head to head doesn't matter when it comes to division. I believe it's the division record which matters first.

                                      Washington 4-1 in the division.
                                      Giants 2-3 in the division.
                                      i think the giants are actually 1-3 in the division.

                                      they look horrible again today. Coughlins 2nd half of season collapses continue. this team is so bipolar. 2 super bowls wins against the Pats, the rest they come out steaming hot and collapse worse than the Mets did with a 7 game lead with 17 to go
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                                      • Ambition
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 11-17-11
                                        • 2060

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by zoo youk
                                        i think the giants are actually 1-3 in the division.

                                        they look horrible again today. Coughlins 2nd half of season collapses continue. this team is so bipolar. 2 super bowls wins against the Pats, the rest they come out steaming hot and collapse worse than the Mets did with a 7 game lead with 17 to go
                                        They're 2-3 in the division. It wouldn't make sense then. They need 6 division games and they only have 1 game left against the Eagles.
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                                        • zoo youk
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 10-23-11
                                          • 10701

                                          #21
                                          COOKED.

                                          where does this defense go? don't understand it at all.
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                                          • zoo youk
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 10-23-11
                                            • 10701

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Ambition
                                            They're 2-3 in the division. It wouldn't make sense then. They need 6 division games and they only have 1 game left against the Eagles.
                                            ok gotcha
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                                            • R.P. McMurphy
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 06-15-12
                                              • 9654

                                              #23
                                              This team is such a fukkin joke at times and impossible to figure out. 6/7 weeks ago it looked like they were gonna run away with the div. Now they probably wont even make playoffs!
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                                              • easyliving
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 06-25-12
                                                • 8876

                                                #24
                                                no need to get overworked about it they lose out and don't require any tiebreakers.
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                                                • GamblerSpirit
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 11-18-11
                                                  • 4085

                                                  #25
                                                  Giants fukking me both weeks in the fantasy playoffs. These damn Giants.
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                                                  • BigDofBA
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 09-30-09
                                                    • 19313

                                                    #26
                                                    How does Dallas still control their own destiny now that the Giants lost.

                                                    I realize they play the Skins next week but if they win that game, Dallas and Washington will be 1-1 against each other, have the same record, and have the same division record. Washington owns the better conference record.

                                                    What is the next tie-breaker? Is it common opponents or something?
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                                                    • zoo youk
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 10-23-11
                                                      • 10701

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by BigDofBA
                                                      How does Dallas still control their own destiny now that the Giants lost.

                                                      I realize they play the Skins next week but if they win that game, Dallas and Washington will be 1-1 against each other, have the same record, and have the same division record. Washington owns the better conference record.

                                                      What is the next tie-breaker? Is it common opponents or something?
                                                      would like to know this also..
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                                                      • face
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 01-31-11
                                                        • 14740

                                                        #28
                                                        if redskins beat dallas, dallas cannot make wild card.

                                                        giants only hope is if minnesota and bears and dallas all lose, and giants win, right?
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                                                        • p19101
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 11-17-11
                                                          • 1419

                                                          #29
                                                          If Vikings and Bears loses next week and Giants win, then giants get last spot, right?
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                                                          • p19101
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 11-17-11
                                                            • 1419

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by face
                                                            if redskins beat dallas, dallas cannot make wild card.

                                                            giants only hope is redskins win, minnesota loses, and giants win
                                                            As far as I can see this goes:

                                                            Redskins vs Cowboys can in no way affect Giants destiny. Only thing that matters is that Vikings and Bear both loses?
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                                                            • lakerboy
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 04-02-09
                                                              • 94379

                                                              #31
                                                              bottomline is that the giants wont get in.
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                                                              • face
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 01-31-11
                                                                • 14740

                                                                #32
                                                                redskins can still take up a wild card spot even if they lose to cowboys, but cowboys get kicked out if they do not beat redskins and thereby cowboys win the division because of tiebreaker rule i think. i don't think cowboys can take up a wild card slot, they either beat redskins and win division or get kicked out. so giants need the redskins to not take that wildcard spot i think.

                                                                it would take a miracle for giants to get in
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                                                                • GamblerSpirit
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 11-18-11
                                                                  • 4085

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                                  bottomline is that the giants wont get in.
                                                                  Nope. They proved that these past 2 weeks. Stick a fork in them.(even though they should win vs eagles)
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                                                                  • InTheDrink
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 11-23-09
                                                                    • 23983

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by The Giant
                                                                    Chris Berman and Tom Jackson will break down all the playoff scenarios for you in just a few hours.

                                                                    Be patient, folks.
                                                                    Thegiant I'd like to see you and seaweed make a video breaking down all the scenarios. How can we make this happen?
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                                                                    • 1brokegirl
                                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                                      • 12-19-12
                                                                      • 150

                                                                      #35
                                                                      MY Giants have got thier golf clubs packed for January
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