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  • tto827
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 10-01-12
    • 9078

    #246
    Originally posted by Frank-King
    Is this all you do? Ride SBR's dikk from thread to thread? They can defend themselves, pal.
    I just want to form an educated opinion before throwing them under the bus, I'm asking for proof, may appear I'm defending SBR, but that's just cause no one else is, and no one gets anywhere with lies and false accusations.
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    • PAULYPOKER
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 12-06-08
      • 36581

      #247
      Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
      The final piece of the puzzle..................

      BOOM!

      Thursday, October 25, 2012

      Multimillion dollar sports betting ring busted in Queens


      Five Families of New York City: Multimillion dollar sports betting ring busted in Queens



      Originally posted by tto827
      I seem to be missing the connection Pauly, care to fill me in?
      Originally posted by Sharpodds
      After being a spectator for a few days of this situation I wanted to add some input to this mess I am one of the managers at one of the sportsbooks that Betislands was approached by for a bailout and after reading some of the posts here I wanted to add my 2 cents as someone who saw their books and understood the situation.

      Despite of the some of the comments that you read on here Betislands in fact did have actual financial backing " old school credit guy " this is why players for 2 years got paid with any sort of problems. If this would have been a " scam " they would have closed shop long ago fact is this book was running on a negative balance sheet for a while now and payouts were being made out of the bankers pocket.


      Betislands would have continued dishing out payments if the financial backer would not have been arrested.

      There was no money to steal because Betislands had paid more out then what they took in deposits.

      Sharp players had their way with this brand and most of them came from this very website , syndicate groups , bonus whoring this is why my boss turned down the book. And that is why most sportsbook owners hate SBR.

      SBR had a nice piece of the losses when they came though up to 25% If I am not mistaken , granted this website is a business just like any other but denying the fact that SBR profited from this would be a lie.

      No BAILOUT is coming , this book was brouight to the door of most of the larger companies and actually almost begged for someone to pick it up just to get a NO.

      In a nutshell Betislands was never intended to be a stiff job they paid people for 2 seasons and I would on ocassion read that some players thought an A rating would be more suitable for this book after getting paid .... fact is the main owner / bank got busted and the funding stopped since he was the only one with any sort of bank behind him it is not the first time this happens nor will it be the last. Uncle Sam is getting his way the last few years.


      SBR..

      Betonline an A ?? Cmon save face SBR these rating need to improve there are much better and safer C shops than some of the B sportsbooks.

      Dont send players to another rabbit hole.

      This may be my last post here if I am not allowed to post again my post has no other intention but to inform players that were affected by this situation on what really happend and to wish them the best of luck.

      Any and all of this info can be confirmed by most people in the know and in the sportsbook industry.

      If I have anymore info I will share it with this forum community.


      Next..............
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      • Frank-King
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 05-25-12
        • 536

        #248
        Originally posted by Sam Odom
        maybe they are
        True.
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        • raiders72001
          Senior Member
          • 08-10-05
          • 11108

          #249
          Originally posted by tto827
          Posters would cry censorship and other stuff, even if they should they can't afford to at this point.
          Good point. SBR should get rid of the infractions and censoring of the little stuff. Then deleting this immediately would have been the correct decision.
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          • flyingillini
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 12-06-06
            • 41219

            #250
            Has anyone realized what company actually owns ************ and other forums we visit. This goes deeper than you would ever imagine. Never seen so many gullable people.
            המוסד‎
            המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים‎
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            • bettilimbroke999
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 02-04-08
              • 13254

              #251
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              • Sam Odom
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 10-30-05
                • 58063

                #252
                raiders , saw your name on the list under

                SBR_Fish


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                • raiders72001
                  Senior Member
                  • 08-10-05
                  • 11108

                  #253
                  Originally posted by flyingillini
                  Has anyone realized what company actually owns ************ and other forums we visit. This goes deeper than you would ever imagine. Never seen so many gullable people.
                  I see at as conspiracy theories gone wild. Sharp Odds seems to be the only one painting a realistic scenario.
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                  • Vegas39
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 09-22-11
                    • 30686

                    #254
                    Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
                    [ATTACH]51892[/ATTACH]
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                    • paranoyd androyd
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 10-01-11
                      • 6459

                      #255
                      Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                      it's hard to be nice to you when you're calling people dipshit or fukking stupid

                      please, if you have information, i would love to hear it. i wasn't trying to be condescending, i trusted that posting from the sportsbook manager who saw the books, since i haven't really read anything else from someone that saw their assets, liabilities, etc
                      yeah i read that manager's post. doesn't matter that BI never 'intended' to be a scam book and that they 'paid for two seasons'. that's completely irrelevant and a distraction to current matters.

                      it's not about original 'intent' here, it's about outcome. and the bottom line is that the outcome of this situation was made far worse by SBR employees not only hiding pertinent information from their customers, but also encouraging them right into its death spiral. BI cashflow had the top priority spot and by whatever means possible. the whole thing is just so fukkin sick, wake up.
                      Last edited by paranoyd androyd; 12-21-12, 08:03 PM.
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                      • tto827
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 10-01-12
                        • 9078

                        #256
                        Originally posted by raiders72001
                        I see at as conspiracy theories gone wild. Sharp Odds seems to be the only one painting a realistic scenario.
                        Fuk realistic conspiracy theories are fun.
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                        • raiders72001
                          Senior Member
                          • 08-10-05
                          • 11108

                          #257
                          Originally posted by tto827
                          Fuk realistic conspiracy theories are fun.
                          lol
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                          • dj_destroyer
                            SBR MVP
                            • 07-28-10
                            • 3856

                            #258
                            Raiders72001, We shouldn't be trying to censor this or hide identities. Everyone who had an account there should came out and say so, and band together to find a solution. Has anyone talked to a lawyer yet? Sure, the law is touchy here but with 1.5m at stake, I'm sure there's hundreds of lawyers who would give it a shot. We also shouldn't respect BetIslands or SBR as legit organizations.

                            BillDozer, Please come forward or resign.

                            Justin7, You're getting an awfully bad reputation by not speaking up. If you ask me, justin got paid 'off the records' to shut up.
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                            • milwaukee mike
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 08-22-07
                              • 26914

                              #259
                              Originally posted by paranoyd androyd
                              yeah i read that manager's post. doesn't matter that BI never 'intended' to be a scam book and that they 'paid for two seasons'. that's completely irrelevant and a distraction to current matters.

                              it's not about original 'intent' here, it's about outcome. and the bottom line is that the outcome of this situation was made far worse by SBR employees not only hiding pertinent information from their customers, but also encouraging them right into its death spiral. BI cashflow had top priority spot and by whatever means possible. the whole thing is just so fukkin sick, wake up.
                              oh i haven't even been close to on sbr's side in this ordeal. i've been plastering pictures of sslp all over the place and posting everything i can find. i agree wholeheartedly that sbr rating them a b/c right up until the end was downright criminal.

                              i do think intent makes a small difference though (splitting hairs), we'll agree to disagree on that.
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                              • paranoyd androyd
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 10-01-11
                                • 6459

                                #260
                                Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                oh i haven't even been close to on sbr's side in this ordeal. i've been plastering pictures of sslp all over the place and posting everything i can find. i agree wholeheartedly that sbr rating them a b/c right up until the end was downright criminal.

                                i do think intent makes a small difference though (splitting hairs), we'll agree to disagree on that.
                                yeah i've seen, fair enough. gl
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                                • paco
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 05-07-09
                                  • 62873

                                  #261
                                  This Shit cray
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                                  • Justin7
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 07-31-06
                                    • 8577

                                    #262
                                    Originally posted by Chimneyfish
                                    Doubt it. I'm sure Justin7 got paid too.
                                    I am out almost 85.
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                                    • paranoyd androyd
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 10-01-11
                                      • 6459

                                      #263
                                      Originally posted by flyingillini
                                      Has anyone realized what company actually owns ************ and other forums we visit. This goes deeper than you would ever imagine. Never seen so many gullable people.
                                      why don't you just drop your other tired act already and keep posts like this? nevermind.
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                                      • Mikeyanks23
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 11-30-10
                                        • 4517

                                        #264
                                        Originally posted by Justin7
                                        I am out almost 85.
                                        did u know for weeks like alot of us this was about to happen?
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                                        • zoo youk
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 10-23-11
                                          • 10701

                                          #265
                                          i would not put any merit into that AT ALL. AK is one of the slim bag posters around and is looking for a huge opportunity to BOOST TRAFFIC to and make a name for his website, would not surprise me one bit if the story is 100% fabricated.
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                                          • Sam Odom
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 10-30-05
                                            • 58063

                                            #266
                                            Originally posted by Justin7

                                            I am out almost 85.

                                            tell us J7 - when did you know u were fukked
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                                            • Sam Odom
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 10-30-05
                                              • 58063

                                              #267
                                              Originally posted by zoo youk

                                              i would not put any merit into that AT ALL.

                                              ZY , way past that point... SBR have yet to deny anything
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                                              • Kaabee
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 01-21-06
                                                • 2482

                                                #268
                                                Originally posted by Justin7
                                                I am out almost 85.
                                                why did you say in may that you couldn't play there and in november that you were booted.

                                                Originally Posted by Justin7

                                                These guys get it. I would play there, if they would let me.

                                                Originally Posted by Justin7
                                                I've been tossed from SIA and BI. With 5D, Heritage, Greek and BM, I had severe limits put in place. I spoke to them, found out what they didn't want, promised to avoid what they did not want. The accounts became useful again.

                                                A book has a right to reject anyone for any or no reason. Your sportsbook is a business partner. You can still beat them, and give them utility. But don't expect to keep taking their money if they get no benefit from your action.
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                                                • rm18
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 09-20-05
                                                  • 22291

                                                  #269
                                                  Justin said he was banned 7 weeks ago? So have you been trying cashout for over 7 weeks with no wagers being placed? That is possible just wondering when I got banned from beted it still book probably 10 weeks to get all my money out.
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                                                  • Seaweed
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 01-19-12
                                                    • 26315

                                                    #270
                                                    This is sad news. Very sad news for those who lost money there. Sorry guys.
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                                                    • Chimneyfish
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 09-30-10
                                                      • 1217

                                                      #271
                                                      Originally posted by Justin7
                                                      I am out almost 85.
                                                      Some people here are questioning why you had that kind of money in a book that you previously said no longer accepts your action.

                                                      I do believe you when you say you were stiffed on this, but I'm sure you can understand why people would have some questions.
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                                                      • Sam Odom
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 10-30-05
                                                        • 58063

                                                        #272
                                                        Originally posted by rm18

                                                        Justin said he was banned 7 weeks ago? So have you been trying cashout for over 7 weeks with no wagers being placed?

                                                        that would jive with this...



                                                        Purportedly - SSLP/Jon said

                                                        SBR has been aware of the Companies distair (sic) broke situation for almost 6 weeks and Bill Dozer said "Keep going as long as you can"
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                                                        • Smoke
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 10-09-09
                                                          • 48111

                                                          #273
                                                          Anyone find it odd that all those SBR mods had cash in there?
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                                                          • raiders72001
                                                            Senior Member
                                                            • 08-10-05
                                                            • 11108

                                                            #274
                                                            Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                                            ZY , way past that point... SBR have yet to deny anything
                                                            Now they should deny the 1000's of accusations, half by you? SBR is wrong and played a huge part in players getting stiffed by covering this up. That said, they can't reply to all your childish accusations and insults. Go in the corner with your sippy cup and let others discuss this intellectually.
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                                                            • Vegas39
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 09-22-11
                                                              • 30686

                                                              #275
                                                              Originally posted by Smoke
                                                              Anyone find it odd that all those SBR mods had cash in there?
                                                              you mean as opposed to an A graded book
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                                                              • Sam Odom
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 10-30-05
                                                                • 58063

                                                                #276
                                                                raiders , Sammy has carefully worded everything he has said in this thread...
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                                                                • Smoke
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 10-09-09
                                                                  • 48111

                                                                  #277
                                                                  Originally posted by Vegas39
                                                                  you mean as opposed to an A graded book
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                                                                  • paranoyd androyd
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 10-01-11
                                                                    • 6459

                                                                    #278
                                                                    Originally posted by dj_destroyer
                                                                    Raiders72001, We shouldn't be trying to censor this or hide identities. Everyone who had an account there should came out and say so, and band together to find a solution. Has anyone talked to a lawyer yet? Sure, the law is touchy here but with 1.5m at stake, I'm sure there's hundreds of lawyers who would give it a shot. We also shouldn't respect BetIslands or SBR as legit organizations.

                                                                    BillDozer, Please come forward or resign.

                                                                    Justin7, You're getting an awfully bad reputation by not speaking up. If you ask me, justin got paid 'off the records' to shut up.
                                                                    we're still waiting BullshitDozer.
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                                                                    • BranchDavidian
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 08-29-10
                                                                      • 1014

                                                                      #279
                                                                      Originally posted by raiders72001
                                                                      Now they should deny the 1000's of accusations, half by you? SBR is wrong and played a huge part in players getting stiffed by covering this up. That said, they can't reply to all your childish accusations and insults. Go in the corner with your sippy cup and let others discuss this intellectually.
                                                                      I hope you mean others besides yourself!
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                                                                      • Smoke
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 10-09-09
                                                                        • 48111

                                                                        #280
                                                                        Originally posted by paranoyd androyd
                                                                        we're still waiting BullshitDozer.
                                                                        Good lookin vato there
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