Luck is a Lock for rookie of the year............................

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  • McBa1n
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    • 01-02-06
    • 2642

    #36
    There's 2 weeks left.
    At those odds, I'd take a shot at Wilson. Surprised Alfred Morris isn't on that list - he has to be in the conversation. Dang - lotta players should be.
    I wouldn't call Luck a lock and I don't even think he's 'the best' rookie this year. This year is loaded with incredible rookie play. Never seen anything close.
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    • ThaTopMoron
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      • 04-30-10
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      #37
      Originally posted by Speedy88
      Well said. There is no question that Luck is being asked to do much more than RG3 or Wilson. Here's my small problem with Luck. He has played a cupcake schedule. The only quality team he has beaten is Green Bay.

      Luck's wins: Minnesota, Green Bay, Cleveland, Tennessee twice, Miami, Jacksonville, Buffalo, and Detroit.

      Wilson's wins: Dallas, Green Bay, Carolina, New England, Minnesota, NYJ, Chicago, Arizona, and Bufflo

      RG3's wins: New Orleans, Tampa Bay, Minnesota, Philadelphia, Dallas, NYG, and Baltimore (although Cousins won that game)
      that's what happens when the team you are on won 2 games the previous year dude. that's how the NFL schedule works... and it didn't help that Jax got even worse and Titans too.

      Still, on the schedule we play Houston twice, @ Bears, @ Pats, @ Lions (playoff team last year) @ KC (always tough environment, esp for a rookie QB to communicate with his team) played the Packers as well. Played Minny as well and they are 8-6. That's almost half the schedule right there.

      Patriots play a cupcake schedule every single penetrating year. Can't help it when the Jets Miami and Buffalo are all disgusting. At least the South has Houston right now who are a discussion for top dog in the AFC
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      • Speedy88
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        • 03-19-11
        • 11717

        #38
        Originally posted by ThaTopMoron
        that's what happens when the team you are on won 2 games the previous year dude. that's how the NFL schedule works... and it didn't help that Jax got even worse and Titans too.

        Still, on the schedule we play Houston twice, @ Bears, @ Pats, @ Lions (playoff team last year) @ KC (always tough environment, esp for a rookie QB to communicate with his team) played the Packers as well. Played Minny as well and they are 8-6. That's almost half the schedule right there.

        Patriots play a cupcake schedule every single penetrating year. Can't help it when the Jets Miami and Buffalo are all disgusting. At least the South has Houston right now who are a discussion for top dog in the AFC
        Oh I totally agree with you. It's not Luck's fault that he played a weak schedule. He simply plays the games that are on the schedule. But to try to boost up their schedule is a lost cause. The Lions are garbage. Even the Chiefs in arrowhead are garbage. And Luck lost to both the Pats and the Bears. I know he beat Minnesota who is 8-6, but I think we can all agree that Minnesota is probably the weakest 8-6 team we have seen in a while.

        But yeah, it's not Luck's fault that he was given a weak schedule, but you have to take it into affect. Other than the GB game, he is yet to beat a quality team (and no I don't consider Minnesota a quality team).
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        • ThaTopMoron
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          #39
          Originally posted by Speedy88
          Oh I totally agree with you. It's not Luck's fault that he played a weak schedule. He simply plays the games that are on the schedule. But to try to boost up their schedule is a lost cause. The Lions are garbage. Even the Chiefs in arrowhead are garbage. And Luck lost to both the Pats and the Bears. I know he beat Minnesota who is 8-6, but I think we can all agree that Minnesota is probably the weakest 8-6 team we have seen in a while.

          But yeah, it's not Luck's fault that he was given a weak schedule, but you have to take it into affect. Other than the GB game, he is yet to beat a quality team (and no I don't consider Minnesota a quality team).
          yeah it sucks when 10+ point road underdogs can't win the game straight up...
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          • freakydave
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            • 02-23-11
            • 1106

            #40
            Originally posted by pavyracer
            It should Be RGIII. He plays in a division with teams with winning records and faced tougher defenses. Andrew Luck plays with two bad teams in his division and still managed to throw 18 picks.
            What about Wilson the nfc west is a tougher division than the nfc east this year.
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            • Speedy88
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              • 03-19-11
              • 11717

              #41
              Originally posted by ThaTopMoron
              yeah it sucks when 10+ point road underdogs can't win the game straight up...
              2012 Luck-Wilson vs. 8 Common Opp. QB Luck Wilson W-L 5-3 6-2 Action plays 441 310 Dropbacks 397 250 Completions 197 137 Attempts 364 213 Comp.


              May I rest my case.....Wilson > Luck

              Stats don't lie.
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              • brewersMKE
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                • 10-09-12
                • 105

                #42
                lmao andrew luck will not get rookie of the year and the last 25 posts states that, just becasue he threw the ball does mean anything, that just means he tried a lot and ... it got intercepted. His passer rating is 29 points under rg3...that number has way more relevance than any other number, and trust me a passer rating of 75 isn't getting rookie nothing. my bets on rg3 especially if he comes back today with a solid game.
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                • PAULYPOKER
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                  • 12-06-08
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                  #43
                  The 7 game-winning drives by Andrew Luck in 4th Q or OT tie mark for most SINCE NFL-AFL merger
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                  • PAULYPOKER
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                    • 12-06-08
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                    #44
                    KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Colts quarterback Andrew Luck surpassed Cam Newton's year-old record for yards passing by a rookie when he had 123 in the first half of Sunday's 20-13 win over the Chiefs.
                    Luck needed only 74 yards to break the Carolina quarterback's mark of 4,051 yards, and he eclipsed it while leading the Colts to a field goal that gave Indianapolis a 13-3 halftime lead.
                    Luck threw for one touchdown and a total of 205 yards, giving him 4,183 on the season.
                    In addition to Luck's feat, the Colts could also celebrate a trip to the postseason after sending off the Chiefs.
                    Luck had to again rally Indianapolis for the win, giving him a rookie quarterback record of seven comebacks in the fourth quarter. His 21 touchdowns are well off Peyton Manning's record of 26 set in 1998.
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                    • Ambition
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                      • 11-17-11
                      • 2060

                      #45
                      If you people think Andrew Luck isn't winning Rookie of the Year then your opinion on football is irrelevant to me. Andrew Luck is running a NFL system unlike RG3. RG3 is running the pistol option and is getting babysat by his coaches because they know he can't handle all the pressure of an NFL system. On the other hand, the Colts threw the playbook at Andrew Luck and said go out, throw 50 times a game, and try to win. That team had 2 wins last year! This year they're 10-5 and clinched a playoff berth with like 7 comeback victories in the 4th quarter. RG3 is still playing like he is in college and doesn't deserve any award. When he can read defensive coverages instead of the defensive end only then i'll be impressed. Wilson is on a great team with a great defense which keeps him in games, that makes it easier for him to win games. Luck is doing this all by himself! There is a reason he is throwing so many interceptions, he throws the ball twice as many times as RG3 does! Are you people dumb? Obviously when your running the read option your not going to throw an interception, DUR!
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                      • Ambition
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                        • 11-17-11
                        • 2060

                        #46
                        Originally posted by k13
                        Any clown can have attempts, yards and yards per game, just look at Stafford.

                        Luck is one of the worst QB's in the NFL right now.
                        I swear to God when ever I read your posts I feel like I get dumber, it's incredible.
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                        • Speedy88
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                          • 03-19-11
                          • 11717

                          #47
                          Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                          KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Colts quarterback Andrew Luck surpassed Cam Newton's year-old record for yards passing by a rookie when he had 123 in the first half of Sunday's 20-13 win over the Chiefs.
                          Luck needed only 74 yards to break the Carolina quarterback's mark of 4,051 yards, and he eclipsed it while leading the Colts to a field goal that gave Indianapolis a 13-3 halftime lead.
                          Luck threw for one touchdown and a total of 205 yards, giving him 4,183 on the season.
                          In addition to Luck's feat, the Colts could also celebrate a trip to the postseason after sending off the Chiefs.
                          Luck had to again rally Indianapolis for the win, giving him a rookie quarterback record of seven comebacks in the fourth quarter. His 21 touchdowns are well off Peyton Manning's record of 26 set in 1998.
                          Bro, passing yards is a meaningless stat. Look who leads the league in passing yards. None other than Matthew Stafford of the Detroit Lions.

                          A better measure is yards per pass, which Wilson is better than Luck. Assuming Russell can throw 2 TD's in the last week, he will break the rookie record for passing TD's (set by none other than Peyton Manning). I'll take that milestone over total passing yards anyday.
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                          • HauntingTheHoly
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                            • 04-28-10
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                            #48
                            Why is Doug Martin only 15-1? I have a sneaky suspicion he will run for 500yds with 7 TD's next week, putting him the discussion. But 15-1 just not good enough to bet it.
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                            • Speedy88
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                              • 03-19-11
                              • 11717

                              #49
                              Lol Luck has another amazing 4th quarter come back......this time against the Chiefs! Luck barely beats a bottom 3 NFL team, completes less than 50% of his passes while Russell Wilson throws 4 TDs against the NFLs best defense and ppl are still ridin Luck's jock. Get outta here.
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                              • PAULYPOKER
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                                • 12-06-08
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                                #50
                                Well boys,

                                the Luck led victory over the #1 seed,

                                sealed the deal,

                                drove the final nail,

                                laid the rest to rest,

                                for the award of rookie of the year.................................... ...............
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                                • PAULYPOKER
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                                  • 12-06-08
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                                  #51
                                  NFL Futures
                                  1/1/2013

                                  2/1/2013 - 2012 AP NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year - Odds to Win
                                  ANDREW LUCK 5-7 In Progress
                                  ROBERT GRIFFIN III 3-2 In Progress
                                  RUSSELL WILSON 7-2 In Progress
                                  DOUG MARTIN 50-1 In Progress
                                  FIELD (ANY OTHER PLAYER) 50-1 In Progress
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                                  • Speedy88
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                                    • 03-19-11
                                    • 11717

                                    #52
                                    I wouldn't really have a problem with any of those three getting it.
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                                    • 3PtShooter
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                                      • 04-13-08
                                      • 3936

                                      #53
                                      3 way tie
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                                      • caseyman011
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 11-01-11
                                        • 583

                                        #54
                                        This is clearly Luck's to lose. RGIII is special, but to bring a team back from 2 wins to 11 with all the pressure of being the #1 pick and replacing Peyton Manning (obviously neither Painter nor Orlovsky were the heir apparent) in the comeback manner in which Luck did all year was nothing short of amazing.
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                                        • Speedy88
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                                          • 03-19-11
                                          • 11717

                                          #55
                                          Why is everyone enamored with Luck taking the Colts from 1-11 to 11-5? The Colts were 1-11 for one reason, they had absolutely no QB last year. If they had Ryan Fitzpatrick or a Sam Bradford, they probably would have won 4-6 games last year. I think RG3 winning all those games in a row to close the season is just as impressive. And he was actually beating good opponents like Dallas (twice), Baltimore, etc.

                                          Once again, Andrew Luck was busy beating up on the Browns, Dolphins, Titans and Jaguars.
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