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I thought it was a lock as well but if one of the other 2 win there division it will be extremly close.Comment -
Close race a win for the Colts sunday and hes the winner. 2 wins to 10 or a 11 in 1 seasonComment -
Wait, that is the line right now? Luck over Griffin? Seriously? I like Luck but obviously Griffin has had the more impressive season.Comment -
Luck is having a horrible season compared to RG3Comment -
Rg3 russell wilson and alfred morris are my picks before luck. We all know the whiteboy will have all the biased votes.Comment -
There will be blood in the streets if Luck doesn't get it over these chumps:RK PLAYER TEAM COMP ATT PCT YDS YDS/A LONG TD INT SACK RATE YDS/G 31 Andrew Luck, QB IND 308 564 54.6 3,978 7.05 61 20 18 37 75.5 284
2 Robert Griffin III, QB WSH 233 351 66.4 2,902 8.27 88 18 4 28 104.2 223 He's killing them in attempts, yards, and yards per game.8 Russell Wilson, QB SEA 222 353 62.9 2,697 7.64 67 21 9 26 95.5 193 Comment -
Griffin 18 TD's and 4 InterceptionsOriginally posted by MobFade
Luck 20 TD's and 18 InterceptionsComment -
You beat me to it, That above stat does anything but bolster Luck's chances. His efficiency is nowhere near that of RG3Originally posted by RonPaul2008Comment -
Go ahead, put your money on anyone but Luck and sit back an watch it
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you should be locked up..... in a mental institution.Comment -
Personally not playing this prop. My take is sportswriters will give Luck the edge for two main reasons. First he took over a team that was pretty much a bare cupboard and shell of it's former self, while replacing one of the all-time greats in the process. Second RG3 great as he is has missed time this year with injury problems and could miss more. Meanwhile in his abscence the team has not lost a step with Cousins including the comeback win vs Balty a couple weeks ago. And don't just go off stats Luck runs a more pro-style offense, has 1 weapon to throw to, and no running game. Alot of RG3 passes are safe dink and dunk with yac yards tacked on. Both are unreal and fun to watch tho. GLComment -
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While I won't be surprised if Luck wins, I think this is FAR from a lock.Comment -
Cousins being able to step in and replace RG3 without offense missing a beat all but eliminates RG3 for rookie of the year..............Comment -
Luck and lock, isnt that an oxymoron
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It was supposed to be sarcastic. Realistically Luck is only throwin the ball more so has more yards, but is getting crushed in efficiencyOriginally posted by Djohns04Comment -
Any clown can have attempts, yards and yards per game, just look at Stafford.Originally posted by MobFade
Luck is one of the worst QB's in the NFL right now.Comment -
It should Be RGIII. He plays in a division with teams with winning records and faced tougher defenses. Andrew Luck plays with two bad teams in his division and still managed to throw 18 picks.Comment -
I can't see luck winning over RG3 at this point
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After being on this forum for about 2 months now I have come to respect your opinion greatly K13. I personally dont like Luck at all not a fan, but to say he is one of the worst QB's in the league is just absurd.Originally posted by k13Comment -
Russell Wilson will have the better career.Comment -
Wilson could actually be the nice sleeper pick. Rg3 may not go this week, Luck beats KC who gives a shit or notices? However if Wilson leads Seattle to a nice home win vs Frisco and has a strong showing his stock will rise. Going into final week RG3 tough game vs the Boys, and same with Luck tough game at home vs Houston. Again Wilson with the slight edge in the final week he is at home, playing the lesser team (Rams) and could get another late push in final week if the other 2 should lose or struggle. In that final week Dallas will still be playing for something, and Houston could be playing for #1 seed as well.Comment -
Sadly we will take him over here in Arizona, over any of the three we are stuck with.Originally posted by k13Comment -
I agree.
I have $750,000 on it.Comment -
This is no different than the presidential election boys...............
use your noodle..............
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Out of 30 QBs drafted #1 overall only one has managed to post a winning record. Andrew Luck.
He leads the league in 4th quarter comeback wins
Basically all of his receivers with the exception of Wayne are rookies...T.Y. Hilton, Dwayne Allen, Coby Fleener, Lavon Brazil
Luck has been hit more than any other quarterback in the league, yet hasn't missed a snap
Practically no running game and a pathetic offensive line
2-14 team last year
Imagine this guy with time in the pocket, a solid running game and an average offensive line....
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ya klnow what i said this to my freinds all that hype about rg 3 how fast he runs and all i said i betcha he gets busted up and misses 2- 3 weeks Shaaazammmmmmmmm another running qb almost had his knee broken run run run thats all these type of qb's know meanwhile luck and wilson have pocket presence can see the field and look off defenders and go cross field to other wr's
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ya klnow what i said this to my freinds all that hype about rg 3 how fast he runs and all i said i betcha he gets busted up and misses 2- 3 weeks Shaaazammmmmmmmm another running qb almost had his knee broken run run run thats all these type of qb's know meanwhile luck and wilson have pocket presence can see the field and look off defenders and go cross field to other wr's <br>
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what about Blair Walsh kicker minnesotaComment -
True broke, running qb's aren't going to be as durable but they do make for exciting games.Comment -
6 4th quarter comebacks / not once made a fatal 4th quarter play when the team was in a 1 score game / #clutchOriginally posted by k13
he is out there running an offense that asks for the QB to take more risks and he has also completed the most 20+ yard passes in the league and Colts are one of the top teams when it comes to converting 3rd and 10+
he is out there playing and learning from mistakes at the same time.... coaches aren't afraid to unleash him and just let him play, just wait and see where he will be in 3 years... while the other guys will be in a new situation and have to play more risky and all of a sudden it will be why is Wilson and RG3 turning the ball over more???
Luck plays with 2 rookie WR/ 2 rookie TE/ rookie RB/ donnie avery a journeyman who makes 600k a year and 1 Vet to catch the ball in Wayne
Luck plays with a defense that doesn't produce many turnovers or prime field position for him to make it easier on him
i see inside the lines and i am in no way saying RG3 or Wilson aren't having impressive seasons themselves
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Well said. There is no question that Luck is being asked to do much more than RG3 or Wilson. Here's my small problem with Luck. He has played a cupcake schedule. The only quality team he has beaten is Green Bay.Originally posted by ThaTopMoron6 4th quarter comebacks / not once made a fatal 4th quarter play when the team was in a 1 score game / #clutch
he is out there running an offense that asks for the QB to take more risks and he has also completed the most 20+ yard passes in the league and Colts are one of the top teams when it comes to converting 3rd and 10+
he is out there playing and learning from mistakes at the same time.... coaches aren't afraid to unleash him and just let him play, just wait and see where he will be in 3 years... while the other guys will be in a new situation and have to play more risky and all of a sudden it will be why is Wilson and RG3 turning the ball over more???
Luck plays with 2 rookie WR/ 2 rookie TE/ rookie RB/ donnie avery a journeyman who makes 600k a year and 1 Vet to catch the ball in Wayne
Luck plays with a defense that doesn't produce many turnovers or prime field position for him to make it easier on him
i see inside the lines and i am in no way saying RG3 or Wilson aren't having impressive seasons themselves
Luck's wins: Minnesota, Green Bay, Cleveland, Tennessee twice, Miami, Jacksonville, Buffalo, and Detroit.
Wilson's wins: Dallas, Green Bay, Carolina, New England, Minnesota, NYJ, Chicago, Arizona, and Bufflo
RG3's wins: New Orleans, Tampa Bay, Minnesota, Philadelphia, Dallas, NYG, and Baltimore (although Cousins won that game)Comment -
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I got RG3 at 6 to 1 odds during the preseason. Easy money.Comment -
Wilson will winComment
