How is that not reviewable?

InTheDrink · 11-22-12, 03:19 PM

Originally posted by onlooker

I'm talking about this play today.

All TD's are reviewed. They should of reviewed it like normal, and tack on the 15 yard penalty after.

To have points on the board that shouldn't be there, is fuking terrible.

Understand. Like I said this play probably wasn't thought about when making that rule. It might be changed but regardless there's a loophole for a lot of rules.

Bluehorseshoe · 11-22-12, 03:19 PM

I don't understand what the point is in penalizing the team at all for doing that. Where is the harm in throwing the flag in that situation?

brainfreeze0 · 11-22-12, 03:21 PM

Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe

I don't understand what the point is in penalizing the team at all for doing that. Where is the harm in throwing the flag in that situation?

Thats how I see it. If anything let the challenge happen even if it would have and charge them a timeout if theyre wrong

PAULYPOKER · 11-22-12, 03:21 PM

The "Bogus" TD highlight has been taken down on NFL.com

Cuse0323 · 11-22-12, 03:22 PM

Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe

I don't understand what the point is in penalizing the team at all for doing that. Where is the harm in throwing the flag in that situation?

I guess the 5 seconds it takes for someone to go pick up the flag is delaying the game already delayed by reviewing every play except ones that are important. The NFL is becoming a pussy league run by morons.

yisman · 11-22-12, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by InTheDrink

Understand. Like I said this play probably wasn't thought about when making that rule. It might be changed but regardless there's a loophole for a lot of rules.

this rule isn't with unreviewable plays

it only comes up when something that is automatically reviewed by the booth (a score or turnover) is challenged by the coach.

PaperTrail07 · 11-22-12, 04:01 PM

OT enjoy

Naz18 · 11-22-12, 04:11 PM

Nobody has mentioned the head coaches race...if it was a black coach his race would of been mention a numerous amount of times....

ZetaPsi808 · 11-22-12, 04:56 PM

lions are a fukkin joke

jim swarztch

paco · 11-22-12, 04:58 PM

Covered the +3.5 but shoulda cashed ml also

ZetaPsi808 · 11-22-12, 05:01 PM

Originally posted by paco

Covered the +3.5 but shoulda cashed ml also

Mr KLC · 11-22-12, 05:08 PM

I would like to congratulate Justin Forsett and Jim Schwartz on the longest run from scrimmage in Texan history.

Rich Boy · 11-22-12, 06:44 PM

Maybe Schwartz had Forsett on his fantasy team

opie1988 · 11-22-12, 06:46 PM

Originally posted by ZetaPsi808

lions are a fukkin joke

jim swarztch

One of the leagues worst, along with the Cowboys and jags.

Ambition · 11-22-12, 06:57 PM

It's really a dumb rule. Yes, he should know the rule but, I feel like just because he throws the flag shouldn't make the play unreviewable, the Lions should lose a timeout or something. That was obviously the game changing play which gave Houston the win but, come on with that rule. Honestly really really stupid and would be shocked if that rule is still in the NFL next year or at least modified to where the play can still be reviewed.

opie1988 · 11-22-12, 06:59 PM

Originally posted by Ambition

It's really a dumb rule. Yes, he should know the rule but, I feel like just because he throws the flag shouldn't make the play unreviewable, the Lions should lose a timeout or something. That was obviously the game changing play which gave Houston the win but, come on with that rule. Honestly really really stupid and would be shocked if that rule is still in the NFL next year or at least modified to where the play can still be reviewed.

Understandable, but for now it is a rule. Coaches have to know that. Period.

Not that it really matters, as Lions are fighting with Cowboys and Jags for overall #1 pick.

doublej95 · 11-22-12, 07:14 PM

whats the point of even having red flags to challenge plays anymore. almost every fukking play is looked at now. the two challenges a game made it more interesting. the NFL will rule and police their game to death just like Nascar has done.

Ambition · 11-22-12, 07:20 PM

Originally posted by opie1988

Understandable, but for now it is a rule. Coaches have to know that. Period.

Not that it really matters, as Lions are fighting with Cowboys and Jags for overall #1 pick.

But, this is the first year of the rule. All the coaches are so used to throwing the flag in that situation and if they do you give them the worst consequence ever!? Making the play non-reviewable. To me it's unfair and something so harmless of an act to throw the flag that they shouldn't be given such a harsh penalty with a 15 yard penalty and the play can't be reviewed. IMO, the punishment doesn't match the crime.

TheCentaur · 11-22-12, 07:21 PM

Just sick of refs being so critical in deciding who wins the games. All these camera angles, challenge flags, booth officials, and it's still numbskulls blowing or not blowing their whistle and then nothing can be done about it because it's in the rules

They need a master official that can call in and override bullshit to preserve the integrity of the game

easyliving · 11-22-12, 07:23 PM

http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-talk/2012652-fire-jim-schwartz-already.html

onlooker · 11-22-12, 07:24 PM

Originally posted by opie1988

Coaches have to know that. Period.

I'm sure many didn't know the review would be voided, but I'm sure they wrote it down on their play cards.

keyboarding · 11-22-12, 07:41 PM

What would happen if on that play HOU threw the challenge flag? Would they not review the play for DET because a challenge flag was thrown? Would be fukking awesome if someone did it.

Chi_archie · 11-22-12, 08:21 PM

Originally posted by keyboarding

What would happen if on that play HOU threw the challenge flag? Would they not review the play for DET because a challenge flag was thrown? Would be fukking awesome if someone did it.

this is the question I'd like to see answered

from all the "its a rule in black and white, shwartz should know it"

a savy belichek coach could do something like that, and if there are not actual rules written to prevent a team from making a scoring play unreviewable by throwing a flag even if it is in their favor, the refs would have to make up a ruling on the fly.

opie1988 · 11-22-12, 08:25 PM

Originally posted by keyboarding

What would happen if on that play HOU threw the challenge flag? Would they not review the play for DET because a challenge flag was thrown? Would be fukking awesome if someone did it.

If that penalty was called on the scoring team, the 15 yards would be penalized from the last spot of the ball, prior to scoring. Therefore negating the touchdown.

So I don't think that would be all that smart of a move.....

opie1988 · 11-22-12, 08:33 PM

Originally posted by Chi_archie

this is the question I'd like to see answered

from all the "its a rule in black and white, shwartz should know it"

a savy belichek coach could do something like that, and if there are not actual rules written to prevent a team from making a scoring play unreviewable by throwing a flag even if it is in their favor, the refs would have to make up a ruling on the fly.

Bi-Arch.....this is the NFL, not one of your GayLive peace music festivals. While this rule may need to be reviewed in the offseason, as of now its in the rule book.

It is what it is.

WvGambler · 11-22-12, 08:33 PM

Originally posted by keyboarding

What would happen if on that play HOU threw the challenge flag? Would they not review the play for DET because a challenge flag was thrown? Would be fukking awesome if someone did it.

The announcers addressed this. They said you can't benefit from the replay if you threw the challenge flag. So if Houston would've thrown it, it would've been reviewed and overturned....because the person who threw the flag would not be benefitting from the challenge.

ttwarrior1 · 11-22-12, 08:39 PM

yes bad call, but lions couldnt stop houston, houston came back, converted a 4th down, went 97 yards and deserve the win.
Houston still could of scored that drive. Sue should of had a couple penalties himself

doublej95 · 11-22-12, 09:34 PM

Originally posted by ttwarrior1

yes bad call, but lions couldnt stop houston, houston came back, converted a 4th down, went 97 yards and deserve the win.
Houston still could of scored that drive. Sue should of had a couple penalties himself

they also could have been stopped on that drive it would have been 3 down and 3.

wrongturn · 11-23-12, 12:08 AM

Originally posted by opie1988

If that penalty was called on the scoring team, the 15 yards would be penalized from the last spot of the ball, prior to scoring. Therefore negating the touchdown.

So I don't think that would be all that smart of a move.....

Are you sure with this one? The action triggering penalty came after the play completed, so the 15 yards penalty should be enforced in the next play, right?

Mike Huntertz · 11-23-12, 12:22 AM

Originally posted by OldHickory

shwartz needs to get fukkin fired..what a clown...

what a stupid fukkin rule though !

Yup!

mngambler · 11-23-12, 12:47 AM

Kitties season is toast, if the Vikes can scrap out a win this weekend the NFC North will get real interesting

keyboarding · 11-23-12, 02:08 AM

Originally posted by wrongturn

Are you sure with this one? The action triggering penalty came after the play completed, so the 15 yards penalty should be enforced in the next play, right?

This is what I was thinking. I don't believe a flag can be applied retroactively.

TexansFan · 11-23-12, 02:13 AM

This same call just happened last week in the Atlanta game. If a coach doesn't know the rule after the same damn thing happened four days ago, and after it was all over ESPN, and all over the NFL Network, then that's too penetrating bad.

Even Schwartz said after the game he knew the rule.

Stupid is as stupid does.

10-1!

ramones951 · 11-23-12, 02:15 AM

Completely defeats the purpose of having video reviews

Robber · 11-23-12, 03:04 AM

Lions got screwed