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  • PunisherIND
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    • 02-24-11
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    #141
    Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
    Yeah I agree. I have a 5er on Demi cause 1 my woman loves Britney so me betting Demi pisses her off, and 2, her group seems the most marketable to the shows demographic.

    I need to get a bovado account. Next bouncy white castle I sell, Ill open one
    lol you should put something on brit too, but dont tell the girl. i dont think you can go wrong with a britney/demi combo.
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    • PunisherIND
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      • 02-24-11
      • 4983

      #142
      Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
      Dont be lying to me punisher. I know you are doing Hog analysis on Simon to make sure his shows succeed
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      • Beelzebubzy
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        • 06-06-11
        • 6995

        #143
        Originally posted by PunisherIND
        lol you should put something on brit too, but dont tell the girl. i dont think you can go wrong with a britney/demi combo.
        Hell no!!!!
        She has a thing for Shogun and I purposely faded that dude every time for it.

        She still owes me about 400 brinners (breakfast for dinner) for the Jones fight.
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        • PunisherIND
          SBR MVP
          • 02-24-11
          • 4983

          #144
          Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
          Hell no!!!!
          She has a thing for Shogun and I purposely faded that dude every time for it.

          She still owes me about 400 brinners (breakfast for dinner) for the Jones fight.
          lmao, i do the same thing with frank murr.

          ps. you should show her that picture floating around of shogun with teets.
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          • GunShard
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 03-05-10
            • 10031

            #145
            Originally posted by PunisherIND
            Wow lines way off if what I'm being told is accurate. Biggest favorite to win is a young girl on britney team. Bovada has brit at even. Simon is coaching the groups - very unlikely that a group wins this type of competition. People generally vote for individuals. Reid coaching older folk. Again, unlikely to win bc people who watch the show are typically younger.bovada has simon and reid at +400.
            I agree that the Britney team could win it all, I see 2 talented singers in that group.
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            • NunyaBidness
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              • 07-26-09
              • 9345

              #146
              Humorously, money has been pouring in on Obama, and by the time my wire clears the line is going to be unbettable. Guess I'll be going balls deep in Academy Awards this year instead.
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              • Educ8d Degener8
                SBR MVP
                • 01-12-10
                • 3177

                #147
                Dimes is offering this... Gabers should drop some loot on it...


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                • PunisherIND
                  SBR MVP
                  • 02-24-11
                  • 4983

                  #148
                  Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                  Humorously, money has been pouring in on Obama, and by the time my wire clears the line is going to be unbettable. Guess I'll be going balls deep in Academy Awards this year instead.
                  Lol that blows. seems like the funding process is pretty slow. Or is it normal for wires to take this long?
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                  • Vaughany
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 03-07-10
                    • 45563

                    #149
                    Originally posted by PunisherIND
                    Wow lines way off if what I'm being told is accurate. Biggest favorite to win is a young girl on britney team. Bovada has brit at even. Simon is coaching the groups - very unlikely that a group wins this type of competition. People generally vote for individuals. Reid coaching older folk. Again, unlikely to win bc people who watch the show are typically younger.bovada has simon and reid at +400.
                    Maybe they think that Simon will fix it so that his team wins (somebody/group wins). It's pretty clear now that X Factor is fixed to a certain extent....the viewing figures for UK X Factor at moment are lowest they've ever been and quality singers have been eliminated in favour of extremely ridiculous characters such as the campest guy on the planet who cant sing to save his life and is being kept in just for the "banter" and to annoy Gary Barlow who is the serious judge who has kind of taken Simon Cowell's job of mocking the joke acts and being contrary to everybody else. Cheryl Cole's autobiography has also some pretty clear digs at Simon Cowell and how X Factor is slightly dodgy and the winner or at least top 3 is pretty much pre-determined near the start of competition. Maybe it's not got to that stage yet in America's version though.

                    Also a group did win the UK X Factor last year, was a group of girls who were like 50-1 outsiders. So not impossible that a group wins. And with the success of JLS and One Direction coming out of X Factor the groups are the "in thing" at moment!
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                    • NunyaBidness
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                      • 07-26-09
                      • 9345

                      #150
                      Originally posted by PunisherIND
                      Lol that blows. seems like the funding process is pretty slow. Or is it normal for wires to take this long?
                      Yeah, 5 days is pretty normal.
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                      • PunisherIND
                        SBR MVP
                        • 02-24-11
                        • 4983

                        #151
                        proceed at yer own risk on this one as its not a true arb.

                        ncaa football player props

                        5d - taylor martinez passing yards over 219.5 +190
                        bovada - taylor martinez passing yards under 216.5 -110

                        you are essentially paying -661 that he wont throw for 217, 218 or 219 yards.
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                        • Grabaka
                          SBR MVP
                          • 02-19-11
                          • 3216

                          #152
                          Originally posted by Educ8d Degener8
                          Dimes is offering this... Gabers should drop some loot on it...


                          Ill bet on that....which iniciative is that?
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                          • NunyaBidness
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 07-26-09
                            • 9345

                            #153
                            Originally posted by PunisherIND
                            proceed at yer own risk on this one as its not a true arb.

                            ncaa football player props

                            5d - taylor martinez passing yards over 219.5 +190
                            bovada - taylor martinez passing yards under 216.5 -110

                            you are essentially paying -661 that he wont throw for 217, 218 or 219 yards.
                            This is called a polish or reverse middle. Lots of value to be found in spots like this, but you're usually laying a lot of juice on them, so a lot of people avoid them.
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                            • PunisherIND
                              SBR MVP
                              • 02-24-11
                              • 4983

                              #154
                              Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                              This is called a polish or reverse middle. Lots of value to be found in spots like this, but you're usually laying a lot of juice on them, so a lot of people avoid them.
                              do you play these polish middles? its very tempting, but can backfire big time.
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                              • NunyaBidness
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 07-26-09
                                • 9345

                                #155
                                Originally posted by PunisherIND
                                do you play these polish middles? its very tempting, but can backfire big time.
                                Yeah, I play them all the time, but you need to have a strong knowledge of what you're betting exactly. Getting the same polish middle on something like season win totals is a recipe for disaster.

                                Something like this is easy to cap. The question to ask is, does playing the middle extract the most value?
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                                • DirtyX
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 06-05-11
                                  • 686

                                  #156
                                  Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                                  any value in Demi Lovato group to win X Factor at +400

                                  Damn man, I wasn't even aware the one could bet onX-Factor winners, or Politics until recently. Does anyone know any sites that offer lines on how long it will be until Israel bombs the shit out of Iran. Or whether or not Fidel Castro is still alive. I capped the latter at evens.
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                                  • NunyaBidness
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 07-26-09
                                    • 9345

                                    #157
                                    Originally posted by DirtyX
                                    Damn man, I wasn't even aware the one could bet onX-Factor winners, or Politics until recently. Does anyone know any sites that offer lines on how long it will be until Israel bombs the shit out of Iran. Or whether or not Fidel Castro is still alive. I capped the latter at evens.
                                    Darpa used to run a site like that, but I believe its gone now. You could bet on targets most likely to be assassinated; with the idea being that green would issue correct predictions in the market and the US could take appropriate action.

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                                    • PunisherIND
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 02-24-11
                                      • 4983

                                      #158
                                      Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                      Darpa used to run a site like that, but I believe its gone now. You could bet on targets most likely to be assassinated; with the idea being that green would issue correct predictions in the market and the US could take appropriate action.

                                      https://www.cia.gov/library/center-f...abilities.html
                                      some very interesting stuff in that article

                                      "Orange juice futures prices have been shown to be better predictors of weather than the National Weather Service’s forecasts"
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                                      • GunShard
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 03-05-10
                                        • 10031

                                        #159
                                        Originally posted by Vaughany
                                        Maybe they think that Simon will fix it so that his team wins (somebody/group wins). It's pretty clear now that X Factor is fixed to a certain extent....the viewing figures for UK X Factor at moment are lowest they've ever been and quality singers have been eliminated in favour of extremely ridiculous characters such as the campest guy on the planet who cant sing to save his life and is being kept in just for the "banter" and to annoy Gary Barlow who is the serious judge who has kind of taken Simon Cowell's job of mocking the joke acts and being contrary to everybody else. Cheryl Cole's autobiography has also some pretty clear digs at Simon Cowell and how X Factor is slightly dodgy and the winner or at least top 3 is pretty much pre-determined near the start of competition. Maybe it's not got to that stage yet in America's version though.

                                        Also a group did win the UK X Factor last year, was a group of girls who were like 50-1 outsiders. So not impossible that a group wins. And with the success of JLS and One Direction coming out of X Factor the groups are the "in thing" at moment!
                                        I think there's a cultural factor to consider.
                                        America believes in individual achievement, which is why Soccer is not popular in America, but extremely popular world wide.
                                        Since Soccer is more on Team achievement compared to Basketball and Football which are focused on Individual achievement.
                                        I predict that Individual winners should win more often than Group winners for X factor in America.
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                                        • gabe
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                                          • 09-12-11
                                          • 7405

                                          #160
                                          All in on Ron Paul
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                                          • PunisherIND
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 02-24-11
                                            • 4983

                                            #161
                                            free money

                                            nfl player props

                                            5d - chris johnson doesnt score a TD +145
                                            bovada - chris johnson scores a TD +105
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                                            • PunisherIND
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 02-24-11
                                              • 4983

                                              #162
                                              sorry, i had that backwards..

                                              5d - chris johnson scores a TD +145 (down to +125 now)
                                              bovada - chris johnson doesnt score a TD +105
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                                              • NunyaBidness
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 07-26-09
                                                • 9345

                                                #163
                                                Cowboys +3 -105 bovada
                                                Giants -3 +115 bookmaker
                                                act fast big limit arbs like this dont last
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                                                • NunyaBidness
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                                                  • 07-26-09
                                                  • 9345

                                                  #164
                                                  Originally posted by GunShard
                                                  I think there's a cultural factor to consider.
                                                  America believes in individual achievement, which is why Soccer is not popular in America, but extremely popular world wide.
                                                  Since Soccer is more on Team achievement compared to Basketball and Football which are focused on Individual achievement.
                                                  I predict that Individual winners should win more often than Group winners for X factor in America.

                                                  Man, I would love to have a beer with you some time. You say the weirdest stuff.
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                                                  • Vaughany
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 03-07-10
                                                    • 45563

                                                    #165
                                                    Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                                    Man, I would love to have a beer with you some time. You say the weirdest stuff.
                                                    haha yeah he's consistent I'll give him that!
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                                                    • NunyaBidness
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                                                      • 07-26-09
                                                      • 9345

                                                      #166
                                                      New Orleans +1 2H -110 BetIslands, Fair price is -124
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                                                      • Vaughany
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 03-07-10
                                                        • 45563

                                                        #167
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                                                        • Beelzebubzy
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 06-06-11
                                                          • 6995

                                                          #168
                                                          Vaughany please do a hog analysis
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                                                          • Vaughany
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 03-07-10
                                                            • 45563

                                                            #169
                                                            Everybody knows Bader is one of the pound-for-pound biggest girth monsters in MMA
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                                                            • Beelzebubzy
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 06-06-11
                                                              • 6995

                                                              #170
                                                              Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                              Everybody knows Bader is one of the pound-for-pound biggest girth monsters in MMA
                                                              My mma knowledge is lackin these days
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                                                              • Vaughany
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 03-07-10
                                                                • 45563

                                                                #171
                                                                Anybody effected by this Sandy bitch on East Coast?

                                                                People canoeing on Weidman's front:

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                                                                • PunisherIND
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 02-24-11
                                                                  • 4983

                                                                  #172
                                                                  Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                                  Anybody effected by this Sandy bitch on East Coast?

                                                                  People canoeing on Weidman's front:

                                                                  yea man. they shut down the trains and buses in the city so i got the day off work.

                                                                  people panicking and shit, but i dont think its going to be that bad. we'll see. they say its going to get worse in a few hours.
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                                                                  • GunShard
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 03-05-10
                                                                    • 10031

                                                                    #173
                                                                    Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                                                    Man, I would love to have a beer with you some time. You say the weirdest stuff.
                                                                    That's not weird. What's wrong with considering a cultural factor to betting?

                                                                    When people vote for Xfactor or for a presidential election, the cultural factor is critical.
                                                                    Ignoring the cultural factor then placing a bet is betting blind.

                                                                    Just like betting on MMA, ignoring fight footage between two fighters then placing a bet is betting blind.

                                                                    Betting blind in the long run will make a gambler lose more than win.
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                                                                    • Vaughany
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 03-07-10
                                                                      • 45563

                                                                      #174
                                                                      Originally posted by GunShard
                                                                      That's not weird. What's wrong with considering a cultural factor to betting?

                                                                      When people vote for Xfactor or for a presidential election, the cultural factor is critical.
                                                                      Ignoring the cultural factor then placing a bet is betting blind.

                                                                      Just like betting on MMA, ignoring fight footage between two fighters then placing a bet is betting blind.

                                                                      Betting blind in the long run will make a gambler lose more than win.
                                                                      I think the issue was with how you applied the "cultural factor" and the analogy you used. Basketball, football and soccer are all team sports so Im not sure how individual achievement is any more focused in one than the other? Unless you are suggesting for instance that a quarterback gets more attention than a different position or something?!
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                                                                      • GunShard
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 03-05-10
                                                                        • 10031

                                                                        #175
                                                                        Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                                        I think the issue was with how you applied the "cultural factor" and the analogy you used. Basketball, football and soccer are all team sports so Im not sure how individual achievement is any more focused in one than the other? Unless you are suggesting for instance that a quarterback gets more attention than a different position or something?!
                                                                        I assumed Soccer isn't popular in America, while Football and Basketball are, is because in Football and Basketball, one player can carry the entire team to win. In Soccer, it seems like one player cannot do that.
                                                                        Maybe I'm wrong here.

                                                                        Maybe Soccer isn't popular in America is maybe the fact it's very low scoring game and boring. Compared to Football and Basketball, which are games that are high scoring and exciting.

                                                                        I shouldn't have brought up Soccer, Football and Basketball. I should of said Americans tend to like Individual achievement than Group achievement, while the rest of the world tends to like Group achievement.
                                                                        Last edited by GunShard; 10-29-12, 04:59 PM.
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