The mod just admitted she was wrong on Libya and Romney was right
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Crowley just admitted she was wrong on Benghazi.
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The people who built a convention around "You didn't build that" now are in charge of telling the world what Romney "actually meant"Originally posted by SBR Lou
Suddenly "context matters" is the mantra throughout the right wing nutosphere.Comment -
yes, but anther poll said. who would help the middle class more.Originally posted by KingJD31
56-44.
if people trusted romney on the economy he would be up big in the swing states. the fact is he is down 6 point in ohio in the latest wall street journal/nbc poll, and up in everyother poll recently. his lead is only going to increase.
simply put, romney needs to win every swing state to win the election which includes Colorado, Virginia, ohio, north Carolina, and fl. if obama wins va, ohio, n.c, or fl. he wins the election. in most instances winning COL would also push him over, assuming he wins wisky, iowa, pa, nevada. which are all leaning highly towards him.Comment -
You didn't build that in any context was a major mistake. And before you counter with the 47% punchline --- I think Romney had it right the first time. =)Originally posted by muldoon
It is crystal clear where Romney was going with Libya, and the mod appears to have apologized for being wrong to so sharply inject herself and embarrassing the good Gov. when he was in the midst of constructing a valid point.Comment -
No one who was , before debate II , a supporter of either changed their mind tonight <--- From what I've been reading online at MSM outlets
Indies are the question and that % is small
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Someone wake SBR John.
Isn't he in charge of posting intrade charts as the harbinger of how things are going?Comment -
true, which i have been saying for weeks now before the debates start. they happen so late in the election cycle. but in the post debate poll on cbs with only undecided voters they did give a slight edge to obama 33-30 rest thought it was a tie. meaning they still, still, still, didn't make up their minds. i really don't understand how you can not know who you will vote for, even if you spent 10 minutes looking at what issues are most important to you. I just don't get it.Originally posted by Sam Odom
But i am interested in seeing Ohio's poll that comes out in the next couple days to see if obama's six point lead gained.Comment -
Originally posted by Sam Odom
Found this... PRE-DEBATE II
Swing States poll: Women push Romney into lead
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Originally posted by Sam Odom
White guy = Alpha, Aggressive.
Black guy = AngryComment -
angry Obama??
you can't make this shit up.
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Headline
U.S. election: ‘Angry Barack Obama’ comes out at presidential debate
So I guess My daughter & friend werent the only onesComment -
Originally posted by muldoon
Double standard for sure
same for a woman , she is a 'bitch'Comment -
Old Man Sammy just woke up from his senior's nap full of energy to spin for his moron mormon.
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Stop trolling Shafted
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Well, when you consider that putting the "you didn't build that" comment into its intended context doesn't differentiate the point all that much from how the right-wing news reinterpreted it, yes, GOPers are going to care about context. The context of the 47% comment has been much more deliberately distorted.Originally posted by muldoonNo more of that talk, or I'll put the leeches on you.Comment -
Focus Group Member who voted for Obama in '08... Said this about Obama after Debate II
“He’s lied about everything. He lied to get elected in 2008 that’s why I voted for him. I bought it. Bull. And, he’s lied about everything. He hasn’t come through on anything. And he’s been bullshitting the public.“
OMG
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Sammy digging into foreign newspapers to find a kindred spirit.Originally posted by Sam OdomComment -
just like his favorite moron mormon, Sammy loves outsourcing.Originally posted by muldoon
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How soon the right forgets that they allowed the worst terrorist attack on our soil on their watch that cost the lives of 5000 Americans for their inability to keep this country safe.Comment -
when the ad hominem begin flying you know you have hit a nerve
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Quite the pair of glasses you see the world through.Originally posted by The Madcap
Obama's comment = If you own a business, you got to this point because America provided you with a safe place to do business, with an educated population, with roads built by everyone. You didn't build that. I interpret that to be the roads and the facilities to build here, the safety you enjoy - were built by all. You don't see it that way.
Romneys 47% comment.
I interpret it exactly how he said it. That 47% includes disabled vets, college students, seniors (along with the poor).there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you name it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what
He defined the 47%, lumped them all in as victims, and said they would vote for "the other guy" and that his job was to focus on the other 53%
I don't see how what he said could be interpreted in any other way.
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This coming weekend polls will tell the story about Debate II
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The bad jobs report at the end of the month is what Repubs are now hanging their hopes on.Originally posted by Sam Odom
Ads are already made - waiting for the last few days to flood the airways.Comment -
actually that's not how I see it.Originally posted by muldoon
I see his comment actually as you described it. The problem is that Obama's comment insinuates that gov't is responsible for these things, when there wouldn't be any roads or infrastructure if it wasn't for the revenues the guys building businesses surrender to the gov't. So in essence, they DID in fact, build that. Maybe not with their own two hands, but they built it with the revenues the companies they built themselves generate. Business owners supported the building of roads because they realized it would help them sell their products. They support education because they understand they need a skilled workforce to further advance their companies. And they support the US military (as well as local law enforcement) because they understand that without security their businesses couldn't operate.
Obama's point is that government is responsible for the success of businesses. That was not misinterpreted.
Romney's comment on the other hand was clearly not intended to include vets/disabled/college students/seniors.No more of that talk, or I'll put the leeches on you.Comment -
You didn't say that about the first one. You said "wtf are you Romney people watching? Obama is clearly winning."Originally posted by d2bets
I'll say it again. You are way too good of a guy and way too smart to support Obama. WTF are you thinking?Comment -
47% pay no federal income taxes.Originally posted by The Madcap
He cited 47%.
47% includes the people I cited.
I see nothing "clearly" about who he didn't intend to lump into it.Comment -
Obama did much better than the first one. Obama is going to get a bounce no doubt.Comment -
YES,Originally posted by muldoon
the 47% DOES include those people. And that's the part he disavowed.
DAMN MAN. For real. Just think about it for a second, think about the implications of what you're saying. Do you really believe Romney feels that there aren't ANY seniors or disabled vets or college students that want to vote for him? Do you really think he believes none of these individuals support a pro-business lower-taxes culture? Why the fukk would even be running for PRESIDENT if that's what he really thought?
Go back and listen to the entirety of his comments. What he's trying to point out is that there are folks who are not going to have any interest in his solutions because his solutions involve cutting their food stamps. And therefore, instead of wasting his time trying to reach people who aren't going to hear him out, he's going to stick with trying to help those people who will. That's his whole point.
Yes, the "47%" part was grossly inaccurate. Yes, he was stupid for using a misleading statistic. That's what he apologized for. How do you not see that?No more of that talk, or I'll put the leeches on you.Comment -
about the 47%
what mittens said in TOTAL and in CONTEXT
is no different than what pundits say all the time which is:
"45% will vote Dem no matter what , 45% will vote Rep no matter what! It is that 10% both candidates must fight to gain"Comment -
hey Sammy, so did those pundits(outside of Faux Noos) insult them and called them moochers?
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Here's his apologyOriginally posted by The Madcap
He needs you standing next to him like those sign language people so people can hear what he really means.It's not elegantly stated, let me put it that way. I was speaking off the cuff in response to a question. And I'm sure I could state it more clearly in a more effective way than I did in a setting like that.Comment -
shafted69
you mean like those hillbillies whom 'cling to their bibles and guns' ?Comment -
To a degree. I don't think all the pundits would go as far as to say "45% of the country is going to vote Democrat because they are lazy, uneducated, good for nothing leeches sucking off the gov't teat" like Romney basically did.Originally posted by Sam OdomNo more of that talk, or I'll put the leeches on you.Comment
