The mod just admitted she was wrong on Libya and Romney was right
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Crowley just admitted she was wrong on Benghazi.
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yes, but anther poll said. who would help the middle class more.
56-44.
if people trusted romney on the economy he would be up big in the swing states. the fact is he is down 6 point in ohio in the latest wall street journal/nbc poll, and up in everyother poll recently. his lead is only going to increase.
simply put, romney needs to win every swing state to win the election which includes Colorado, Virginia, ohio, north Carolina, and fl. if obama wins va, ohio, n.c, or fl. he wins the election. in most instances winning COL would also push him over, assuming he wins wisky, iowa, pa, nevada. which are all leaning highly towards him.Comment -
You didn't build that in any context was a major mistake. And before you counter with the 47% punchline --- I think Romney had it right the first time. =)
It is crystal clear where Romney was going with Libya, and the mod appears to have apologized for being wrong to so sharply inject herself and embarrassing the good Gov. when he was in the midst of constructing a valid point.Comment -
No one who was , before debate II , a supporter of either changed their mind tonight <--- From what I've been reading online at MSM outlets
Indies are the question and that % is small
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Someone wake SBR John.
Isn't he in charge of posting intrade charts as the harbinger of how things are going?Comment -
true, which i have been saying for weeks now before the debates start. they happen so late in the election cycle. but in the post debate poll on cbs with only undecided voters they did give a slight edge to obama 33-30 rest thought it was a tie. meaning they still, still, still, didn't make up their minds. i really don't understand how you can not know who you will vote for, even if you spent 10 minutes looking at what issues are most important to you. I just don't get it.
But i am interested in seeing Ohio's poll that comes out in the next couple days to see if obama's six point lead gained.Comment -
Found this... PRE-DEBATE II
Swing States poll: Women push Romney into lead
Will be interesting to see how women viewed this 'Angry' ObamaComment -
angry Obama??
you can't make this shit up.
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Headline
U.S. election: ‘Angry Barack Obama’ comes out at presidential debate
So I guess My daughter & friend werent the only onesComment -
Old Man Sammy just woke up from his senior's nap full of energy to spin for his moron mormon.
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Stop trolling Shafted
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Well, when you consider that putting the "you didn't build that" comment into its intended context doesn't differentiate the point all that much from how the right-wing news reinterpreted it, yes, GOPers are going to care about context. The context of the 47% comment has been much more deliberately distorted.No more of that talk, or I'll put the leeches on you.Comment -
Focus Group Member who voted for Obama in '08... Said this about Obama after Debate II
“He’s lied about everything. He lied to get elected in 2008 that’s why I voted for him. I bought it. Bull. And, he’s lied about everything. He hasn’t come through on anything. And he’s been bullshitting the public.“
OMG
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How soon the right forgets that they allowed the worst terrorist attack on our soil on their watch that cost the lives of 5000 Americans for their inability to keep this country safe.Comment -
when the ad hominem begin flying you know you have hit a nerve
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Quite the pair of glasses you see the world through.
Obama's comment = If you own a business, you got to this point because America provided you with a safe place to do business, with an educated population, with roads built by everyone. You didn't build that. I interpret that to be the roads and the facilities to build here, the safety you enjoy - were built by all. You don't see it that way.
Romneys 47% comment.
I interpret it exactly how he said it. That 47% includes disabled vets, college students, seniors (along with the poor).there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you name it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what
He defined the 47%, lumped them all in as victims, and said they would vote for "the other guy" and that his job was to focus on the other 53%
I don't see how what he said could be interpreted in any other way.
Now of course he says he was wrong to say it.Comment -
This coming weekend polls will tell the story about Debate II
Obama will get a bounceComment -
actually that's not how I see it.
I see his comment actually as you described it. The problem is that Obama's comment insinuates that gov't is responsible for these things, when there wouldn't be any roads or infrastructure if it wasn't for the revenues the guys building businesses surrender to the gov't. So in essence, they DID in fact, build that. Maybe not with their own two hands, but they built it with the revenues the companies they built themselves generate. Business owners supported the building of roads because they realized it would help them sell their products. They support education because they understand they need a skilled workforce to further advance their companies. And they support the US military (as well as local law enforcement) because they understand that without security their businesses couldn't operate.
Obama's point is that government is responsible for the success of businesses. That was not misinterpreted.
Romney's comment on the other hand was clearly not intended to include vets/disabled/college students/seniors.No more of that talk, or I'll put the leeches on you.Comment -
Obama did much better than the first one. Obama is going to get a bounce no doubt.Comment -
YES,
the 47% DOES include those people. And that's the part he disavowed.
DAMN MAN. For real. Just think about it for a second, think about the implications of what you're saying. Do you really believe Romney feels that there aren't ANY seniors or disabled vets or college students that want to vote for him? Do you really think he believes none of these individuals support a pro-business lower-taxes culture? Why the fukk would even be running for PRESIDENT if that's what he really thought?
Go back and listen to the entirety of his comments. What he's trying to point out is that there are folks who are not going to have any interest in his solutions because his solutions involve cutting their food stamps. And therefore, instead of wasting his time trying to reach people who aren't going to hear him out, he's going to stick with trying to help those people who will. That's his whole point.
Yes, the "47%" part was grossly inaccurate. Yes, he was stupid for using a misleading statistic. That's what he apologized for. How do you not see that?No more of that talk, or I'll put the leeches on you.Comment -
about the 47%
what mittens said in TOTAL and in CONTEXT
is no different than what pundits say all the time which is:
"45% will vote Dem no matter what , 45% will vote Rep no matter what! It is that 10% both candidates must fight to gain"Comment -
hey Sammy, so did those pundits(outside of Faux Noos) insult them and called them moochers?
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Here's his apology
He needs you standing next to him like those sign language people so people can hear what he really means.It's not elegantly stated, let me put it that way. I was speaking off the cuff in response to a question. And I'm sure I could state it more clearly in a more effective way than I did in a setting like that.Comment -
shafted69
you mean like those hillbillies whom 'cling to their bibles and guns' ?Comment -
No more of that talk, or I'll put the leeches on you.Comment
