2011 NFL Pro Picks with John Ryan

**illios** · 12-25-11, 10:22 PM

31 points with 1 1/2 quarters left. Not so good!

**big cheyo** · 12-25-11, 10:26 PM

yea man this is making me nervous if the packers score here again its done

**fecgp40** · 12-25-11, 10:32 PM

Originally posted by big cheyo

yea man this is making me nervous if the packers score here again its done

And there it is...

**Jhyun** · 12-25-11, 10:32 PM

Please rest Rodgers for 4th qtr ><

yD · 12-25-11, 10:34 PM

Wow. Was looking like a lock at one point.

Sorry guys, this one is toast. All we needed was that fumble recovery in the endzone.

**wiggie** · 12-25-11, 10:38 PM

Was about to take under,,, so glad I talked myself out of it. GB usually always go over. Last week went under I can't see another low scoring game like that twice in a row

yD · 12-25-11, 10:42 PM

Looking back I can't believe I took a number that low with the Packers/Aaron Rodgers.

If the other team does anything at all, it goes over.

**rockhardfister** · 12-25-11, 10:44 PM

Wish I could go back in time and never click on this thread. Should have just went with the Packers but couldn't pass up the 20* fist fuk.

**Jhyun** · 12-25-11, 10:44 PM

Man that stinks >< Biggest bet I've made all year + My opponent in my fantasy league championship has Aaron Rodgers. I'm doubled f'ed lol

**ranman92** · 12-25-11, 10:48 PM

Man loved pack went with 20 star pick now im f'ed. Man wish I didnt come on this site 2day!!!

**illios** · 12-25-11, 10:50 PM

haha! damnit! i knew i shouldnt have taken the under, especially with the total at 42 :O looks like green bay going over themselves!

couldnt pass up the 20* though! blah, nice try!

yD · 12-25-11, 10:52 PM

Speaking of double ****** here goes my teaser.

**fecgp40** · 12-25-11, 11:11 PM

Originally posted by yD

Speaking of double ****** here goes my teaser.

What was your teaser?

**j_to_the** · 12-25-11, 11:16 PM

glad i didnt see this pregame.. i thought the over was too easy. counting on the Pack not to score at home? LoL! you knew McCown was going to essentially give the Pack some easy points.

John likes to get cute with his picks - and this was another classic example.

Feel for all those tailing a 20* play that went largely against most peoples gut and essentially common sense.

**cantpickem** · 12-25-11, 11:27 PM

Down some but will bounce back. Keep the picks coming and thanks

**fecgp40** · 12-25-11, 11:28 PM

Originally posted by j_to_the

glad i didnt see this pregame.. i thought the over was too easy. counting on the Pack not to score at home? LoL! you knew McCown was going to essentially give the Pack some easy points. John likes to get cute with his picks - and this was another classic example. Feel for all those tailing a 20* play that went largely against most peoples gut and essentially common sense.

Did McCown give the packers easy points? It didn't seem like it to me. Seems like the Bears D was more responsible for that. McCown had 2 picks, but only one of them gave the Packers decent field position. One was on the Packers 20 yard line.

yD · 12-25-11, 11:29 PM

Originally posted by j_to_the

glad i didnt see this pregame.. i thought the over was too easy. counting on the Pack not to score at home? LoL! you knew McCown was going to essentially give the Pack some easy points.

John likes to get cute with his picks - and this was another classic example.

Feel for all those tailing a 20* play that went largely against most peoples gut and essentially common sense.

Agreed. Like the "over" plays on the Steelers/Chiefs and Steelers/Browns.

I tail John a lot, especially on his big 20* plays. I couldn't go against him when his other 20* plays have hit with ease and the one that didn't? A friggin 62 point game from the Saints. Meaning, it took something very unusual to give him his only 20* loss, but tonight? Nothing unusual. Aaron Rodgers could have covered it himself and the Packers D can't stop anybody.

**georgekobe8** · 12-25-11, 11:51 PM

I love most of johns picks and usually tail him but I have to be 100% sold on it to commit. Glad I took the over took the over. Ill for sure be here tomorrow night to see if he has a pick for MNF

**jjaycuny** · 12-26-11, 11:33 AM

Any play for tonight?

**IllyPhilly[DOC]** · 12-26-11, 01:59 PM

NT JR i was with you all the way on that Under. That first half had me sold too, but ehh what can you do its A-ROD! Tonight is a new night. A small play for me n call it an ok week.

**rockhardfister** · 12-26-11, 02:12 PM

Dont know how you can pick a team tonight. Both of these teams understand that they will be playing each other in 2 weeks again. Saints have no hope of 1st round bye. Falcons are already in and really dont give a crap where they play. As a matter of fact, they usually play pretty well at NO so I imagine they are content with the 6 seed and resting players against TB. I expect very vanilla showings from both.

yD · 12-26-11, 03:06 PM

The Saints still have a shot at a bye week dude.

**true blue 26** · 12-26-11, 04:20 PM

over anyone?

**fecgp40** · 12-26-11, 05:38 PM

Maybe John is still cooking. LOL. Very interested to see what he has for tonight's game though.

**fecgp40** · 12-26-11, 05:39 PM

The more I think about it, and the more I look at the situation, it really seems like Atlanta + 7 is a good call. I agree it will be a vanilla game with a close margin. We'll see.

**IllyPhilly[DOC]** · 12-26-11, 05:40 PM

So everyone is agreeing there will be no shootout? I see taking the pts is what everyone seems to agree on.

**fecgp40** · 12-26-11, 05:49 PM

I see this game in the mid-high twenties myself... but I'm not expert. LOL. I may take Atlanta + 7 or tease Atlanta + 14 and under 60.

**fecgp40** · 12-26-11, 05:54 PM

Just took Atlanta + 15/Under 60 ties reduce for -120 at 5 dimes.

**John Ryan** · 12-26-11, 06:50 PM

Originally posted by fecgp40

Just took Atlanta + 15/Under 60 ties reduce for -120 at 5 dimes.

I like that play... good strategy

**fecgp40** · 12-26-11, 06:52 PM

Originally posted by John Ryan

I like that play... good strategy

Thanks John. I've been following you pretty much all year. Can you tell me what you like about it? If it turns out to be a good choice, maybe I can repeat the strategy in the future with your help and analysis.

**John Ryan** · 12-26-11, 06:58 PM

Originally posted by IllyPhilly[DOC]

So everyone is agreeing there will be no shootout? I see taking the pts is what everyone seems to agree on.

Atlanta cannot afford to get into a shootout with the Saints - nor can anyone. I had heard that one of the well-respected ESPN analysts is expecting Atlanta to go no huddle... well they can't.. they just can't... First, when Atlanta spreads the field in the no-huddle and then runs out fo that formation, the Saints have already proven that they can unpile show enough to allow substitutions to get on the field in previous games. So, Atlanta can't simply go no -huddle and throw on every down. Saints pass rush from the edge presents issues for Atlanta and I have no doubt you will two tight end sets in the game tonight.

A play that will be highly effective will be when TE Gonzalez chip blocks and then releases at the LOS (line of scrimmage). That pass rusher will be picked up by Turner in the backfield and will give Ryan enough time to hit Gonzalez in space on short ball control routes. Falcons MUST shorten the game as they did in the first meeting where they lost 23-20 in OT. I can't imagine the Falcons coaching staff looking to try to outscore the Saints in their own house.

**John Ryan** · 12-26-11, 07:19 PM

The 20* play was one that the books made a fortune on. One of the biggest total winners fro them this season. The line continued to drop even after I released the play and I was surprised that Chicago was able to score 21 points. 14-3 at half-time was certainly good, but then Pack goes into that defensive cover-2 that is exactly why they are near dead last in passing defense and I knew we were in trouble... That is something I did bring away from this loss that once GB gets up by two scores they then know they can outscore anyone in the league with the exception fo the Patriots, who also rank near dead last in most defensive categories for the same reason. of course there are other reasons and measurements why the Pack and Patriots are two of the best teams in the NFl with horrid defense, but that offensive confidence and execution is certainly one of the dominant ones.

**Looking4Winners** · 12-26-11, 07:20 PM

Actual final score first time around was 26-23 in OT. Over/Under for the first meeting was 49.5. I can't see both teams combining for 7 FG's again. In the first meeting both kickers missed a FG. The longest FG for Atlanta was 36 yards. Brees had 43 pass attempts while Ryan 52. NO sacked Ryan only once, Brees was not sacked. JR if Atlanta goes to a no-huddle this looks like an Over play IMO. Any thoughts?

**degenerate23** · 12-26-11, 07:25 PM

Any play tonight?

**John Ryan** · 12-26-11, 07:26 PM

I like the teaser with the FALCONS and the 'UNDER'

For the thread take the Atlanta Falcons as a 5* graded plays and look for them to use strong running in spread formations and two TE ets as outlined above. I believe Gonzalez would be an excellent choice for fantasy players. I have never played fantasy football and have no clue to how all of those leagues work, but I do know it is based on strong performances and Gonzalez will be on eof them - if Atlanta covers ATS. He has to be an integral part.