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  • 2daBank
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 01-26-09
    • 88966

    #736
    Originally posted by 2daBank
    Originally Posted by 2daBank
    week 13

    atl pk (2x)... i am almost shocked at myself the falcons are my 2x play of the week. ultimately i believe they are better than they have shown the last month and im on board with the players only meeting working on this team with strong leadership. during this losing streak they have held a edge in yards per play in every contest, out gained them by a combined 250 yards, and mostly out played everyone other than minny. they just continually have shot themselves in the foot with untimely turnovers in bunches.

    this losing streak started with a home ot loss to these very bucs, a game where matty ice was 37-45 for damn near 400 yards. falcons out gained tampa by more than 200 yards in this contest, had a 9 min time of possession adv, and were in the red zone 5 times! this was the beginning of the nightmare as they fumbled 4x losing 3 of them and threw a pick in scoring position. the defense was solid as has been the case throughout. they held martin to 3.1 ypc and shamis didnt even throw for 200.

    bottom line is this team better than the results have been lately. the mistakes that have plagued them are correctable and uncharacteristic of ryan. they have shown once they can move the ball at will on this tampa team and i believe they will clean up the sloppy play in the red zone vs a tampa team that been playing better away from home and ranks low defending teams in scoring range. unlike the thu night contest this spread has been adjusted for recent results and i believe a little much as i made atl slight favorties and expect them to come in and play one of thier better games this season and keep their playoff hopes alive, 28-20 atl..



    oak +3 -120 (1.5x)..kc on fire and i been cashing with them the last 3 weeks while at the same time oak has been in a bit of a funk finally getting back in the winner circle last week when they were basically gifted a game in Tennessee. kc defense has been mostly great, they have a top notch run game regardless who reid plugs in to tote the rock on a given week, and they even managed to get smith to throw the ball down the field last week.

    so why in the world do i like the raiders here?

    styles make fights and if we can get oak to bring their best effort the raiders passing game matches up incredibly favorably to the chiefs biggest issue on defense, a issue that has been mostly masked by circumstances of opponents that have played right into their hands during this win streak. it no secret kc can flat out rush the qb, top 10 in sack percentage and top 5 the last month. it also known that this secondary can be had if the kc front isnt getting constant immediate pressure.
    fact is during this win streak the chiefs have had the good fortune of playing some severely limited passing attacks, sure on the surface facing pit, det, den, sd, and buf doesnt appear like a cakewalk but consider landry jones was the pit qb, lions were still under former oc and sucking something fierce, donks were playing with a battered washed up peyton, chargers had no weapons on the outside and a decimated oline, then last week tyrod and watkins torched these guys in the 1st half, that tyrod taylor and one freaking weapon and that was enough as kc didnt get much pressure. they figured things out at halftime but how hard is that to figure out?

    raiders present a much taller order. Carr spreads it around and seems to have another weapon at his disposal with the emergence of roberts to go along with cooper and crabtree. more importantly raiders do a excellent job of protecting carr as he been sacked the lowest percentage of his dropbacks in the league. chiefs also had houston leave last weeks game, doesnt seem likely he will be close to 100% for this game so the best pass protecting line in the nfl will be able to slide more help on hali without having to pay for it. If kc cannot generate pressure Carr will carve this team up.

    As well as the kc offense has been playing they do not want to get into a shootout here. going toe to toe with the bills offense is one thing, needing smith to match td's with Carr is another. compounding that problem unlike oak the kc oline does not hold up great in pass protection, only russel wilson has been sacked on a higher percentage of his dropbacks than smith, the oline got a little banged up last week, and no team has been getting to opposing qbs more than the raiders the last 3 weeks. imo this is a really good spot to sell high on the chiefs, i dont even have kc 3 points better on a neutral so i question why they favored at all, this the same damn number we laid with kc vs a out manned and broken down charger team w little to no home field adv 2 weeks ago! this may end being my fav play of the week but for now im taking 1.5u on the +3 before it gone as i dont think it be here long.. lean strongly to the over as well in what i think a fairly high scoring game oak wins 27-23.


    nyj/nyg ov 46.5 (1.5x).. you have to go back to the 1st of oct to find a game the jets havnt allowed a team to score 20+, their secondary beat up and been getting torched on a regular basis of late. the gmen pass defense been terrible all season, these clowns are allowing more than 300 yards per game through the air and have the lowest sack percentage in the nfl. in a game that wildly important for both sides and with unseasonably nice weather forecast i smell a sneaky shootout in the making here.

    not only do i expect eli and fitz to be putting up numbers but when you get these 2 hacks throwing the ball as much as i would expect in this game you are bound to get a interception or 2 that get taken to the house or at least set up a score for the opposing team. the big time wrs in this game are gonna have a field day, ODB would have clowned on revis but now not only is revis out but the guy replacing him hasnt practiced all week. marshall and decker will roast a nyg secondary cousins just threw for 300 against. i believe we gonna see every bit of 80 passing attempts in this game, possibly more. that many throws to wrs this talented and secondaries this beatable is gonna lead to lots of points! 27-24 somebody.



    sea -1.5 (1x)
    sea/min un 43 -120 (bought hook) (1.5x).. first off i think there a chance you can wait and get this at 43 in the morning but trying to get my card finished as not sure how much time i will have in morning. the reason i been waiting and want 43 is because that is my absolute high side here and am a little worried of the possibility these teams both get 20 forcing another score. i do think this number is several points high as i made it between 37-41 so i certainly see value at anything above 41.

    as i mentioned earlier to me this game resembles the kc/minny game a great deal as sea run defense is similarly stout like the chiefs rush d. anytime minny struggles to get ap and the ground game rolling they are gonna struggle to put up points (see the sf, kc, and gb games). the way to beat sea these days is to spread them out and pick on the coverage holes in the secondary and force chancoler to play coverage. minny simply isnt capable of doing that so sea is gonna be allowed to let cam do what he does best and freelance in run support. teddy b simply doesnt have the weapons to be able to exploit this, sure rudolph has actually been competent lately and you can do work with your te's against sea but that will only get them so far. w/o the aide of special teams or their defense getting them a score i have a very hard time seeing vikings scoring more than 14-17 points here.

    on the other side i fully expect minny's d to keep them in the game as i dont see wilson and co lighting up this secondary the way they did steelers suspect group at home. i do however think that rawls is running strong and you can run on this minny front. with the help of the run game i do like sea chances and think wilson will be able to make plays when needed. this gonna be a slug fest, both teams are gonna attempt a lot of rushes and both are gonna have a lot of stalled out drives. i like 20 to be enough to get the W here and that what i think sea will muster in a 20-17 win which why im venturing out and playing side and total here..


    kc/oak ov 44.5 (1x).. another game where im on the side and total, i say all the time this is not my favorite thing to do but this week i just cant help it as the sides i like happen to also be the totals i see value in which i guess makes sense. pretty much explained this above talking about the oak play, both offensive strengths match up well with defensive weaknesses in this game. Carr is gonna probably throw it 40+ times and kc struggles defending big time wrs like cooper and crabs. chiefs should keep their offense ahead of the chains with their run game, and the topper for me is a couple guys i respect a great deal think alex smith is gonna have a big performance this week. the 2 games last season hit 44 and i think both offenses are more potent this time around. like the chances this game pushes up into the 50s when all said and done.
    falcons tt ov 22.5 (1x)
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    • 2daBank
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 01-26-09
      • 88966

      #737
      Originally posted by SEAHAWKHARRY
      Good luck today banker
      you too buddy
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      • theLegend9101
        SBR Rookie
        • 12-05-14
        • 13

        #738
        Dude, you are FRICKIN solid. I literally come to the NFL forum for your writeups only. Thanks for the hard work 2dbank.
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        • 2daBank
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 01-26-09
          • 88966

          #739
          Originally posted by theLegend9101
          Dude, you are FRICKIN solid. I literally come to the NFL forum for your writeups only. Thanks for the hard work 2dbank.
          appreciate the kind words man, hopefully we can keep it rolling down the stretch. gl today
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          • 2daBank
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 01-26-09
            • 88966

            #740
            jags are so tempting catching the full fg, i think it be a really close game so hard not to take the points.

            lean bears but just cant bring myself to lay the points, i kinda expect them to wax a terrible road team making a early start.

            really surprised by the move in zona/stl gm. can lambs really knock them off again? fishy, lol..

            really eyeing the donks/sd total, surprised it has gotten pushed above 44 and im getting tempted to play the under.

            for now sticking with the 7 i have posted but might add a afternoon game or 2nd half. dont like much about the night cap or monday night but it still early so we shall see, lol. gl everyone
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            • SilverTongueFox
              SBR MVP
              • 11-23-10
              • 2338

              #741
              Fantasy question for you bro. I need to pick up backup TE as I roll into playoffs. Reed has prior concussion issues so I don't want to be w/o a backup TE starting playoffs next week. Waiver closes in our league 1259pm today. No more re FA moves.

              Would you keep Ware (KC) or Draughns (SF) for RB depth? I own Stewart, Williams, Johnson, Yeldon.

              BOL of luck today.
              Im on Bills, Browns, Falcons, Falcons over, Vikes over, Saints & Raiders.
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              • magnumsr35
                SBR Sharp
                • 07-26-14
                • 250

                #742
                Sry just being nibby lol but I'd pick up tamme or Watson from New Orleans. Both gave throwing qbs. I'd keep draughns but maybe get buck Allen if u can. Just my opinions lol.
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                • paco
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 05-07-09
                  • 62873

                  #743
                  GL banker.
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                  • 16kredit
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 11-16-13
                    • 572

                    #744
                    Matt Ryan seals the deal easily. He's been nothing but terrible this past 6 games.
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                    • MrAllin
                      SBR MVP
                      • 08-20-14
                      • 1349

                      #745
                      Man Atl is terrible
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                      • 16kredit
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 11-16-13
                        • 572

                        #746
                        and that missed tackle on Jameis???? how can you frrrriigggggin not tackle him.
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                        • Falco88
                          SBR Hustler
                          • 01-05-15
                          • 76

                          #747
                          Wow
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                          • Jowframs
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 08-10-09
                            • 5128

                            #748
                            JAY KUNTLER
                            whooooooHoooooo$$&
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                            • Eddy Munny
                              Benched
                              • 08-13-13
                              • 15769

                              #749
                              Let's get this Raiders bet, Banker. I'm on it pretty large myself.
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                              • JohnPickensU
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 10-05-12
                                • 156

                                #750
                                Any leans on pitt indy banker?
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                                • Eddy Munny
                                  Benched
                                  • 08-13-13
                                  • 15769

                                  #751
                                  That Raiders game was fukking brutal. It felt like the right side for about 90% of the game. At some point, Derek Carr decided to do his best Matt Schaub impression. All three interceptions set the Chiefs up for easy touchdowns, including one that went straight to the house. Unbelievable.

                                  I think the entire complexion of the game changed when the Raiders were driving, up 20-14, and Carr missed a wide open Crabtree. They were already in FG position at that point and any additional points on that drive would have made it difficult to lose with +3. So a play or two after the misfire, Carr holds the ball for an eternity and ends up throwing an interception that gets run back to the Oak one yard line. It was all downhill from there.
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                                  • bballs84
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 11-11-09
                                    • 5461

                                    #752
                                    Derrick not David
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                                    • Eddy Munny
                                      Benched
                                      • 08-13-13
                                      • 15769

                                      #753
                                      Originally posted by bballs84
                                      Derrick not David
                                      Derek, not Derrick... but duly noted.
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                                      • meader99
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 10-30-10
                                        • 4223

                                        #754
                                        Originally posted by bballs84
                                        Derrick not David
                                        Well let's face it, he played like David today.
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                                        • JohnPickensU
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 10-05-12
                                          • 156

                                          #755
                                          Any mnf love?
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                                          • Twiz
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 10-22-13
                                            • 442

                                            #756
                                            When you get a chance, I wanna see your read on Bucs/Saints. I had this game around 30-20 coming into the week...ingram done for season...looking like cooks might not play...Truly the biggest botched line of the season so far in my opinion. Looking for any reason to not unload more than the 3x I already got on it...maybe you got that reason..
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                                            • Jowframs
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 08-10-09
                                              • 5128

                                              #757
                                              Originally posted by Twiz
                                              When you get a chance, I wanna see your read on Bucs/Saints. I had this game around 30-20 coming into the week...ingram done for season...looking like cooks might not play...Truly the biggest botched line of the season so far in my opinion. Looking for any reason to not unload more than the 3x I already got on it...maybe you got that reason..
                                              2dabank
                                              Left with KUNTLER ......Lol
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                                              • Eddy Munny
                                                Benched
                                                • 08-13-13
                                                • 15769

                                                #758
                                                Originally posted by Twiz
                                                When you get a chance, I wanna see your read on Bucs/Saints. I had this game around 30-20 coming into the week...ingram done for season...looking like cooks might not play...Truly the biggest botched line of the season so far in my opinion. Looking for any reason to not unload more than the 3x I already got on it...maybe you got that reason..
                                                What are you saying? You didn't really make that clear. I'm guessing you like the Bucs and you think the four point line is way too low? I dunno if I could ever bring myself to go large on the Bucs as a favorite. They're still the Bucs. They're in a great position to win, and they shouldn't lack for motivation, but giving 4 points with this team is a dicey proposition imo... Hardly GOY material.
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                                                • Twiz
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 10-22-13
                                                  • 442

                                                  #759
                                                  Thought I was pretty clear. My metrics (which usually are within 1-2 points of vegas spreads...and when they're not, they're valuable plays) have bucs as 10-11 points better. Books have bucs as 3.5(now 4) better. I have not produced a spread 6 points off the vegas line all year (MAYBE a total or three...not a spread). Looks like a GOY so far...trying to see the other side. Maybe an angle I missed as my analysis is almost entirely statistical, whereas bank has a different style. "They're still the bucs" is hardly a reason for me to lay off that kinda value.
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                                                  • Eddy Munny
                                                    Benched
                                                    • 08-13-13
                                                    • 15769

                                                    #760
                                                    Don't dismiss my handicapping style. It's been profitable for me. Most Sunday mornings, I just take a gander at the game lineups and say to myself "They're still the (insert team name)." Then, I bet accordingly.

                                                    I did encounter a bit of a hitch in my giddyup, circa 1997, when I was capping Houston's franchise. I totally flubbed that day when I stated "They're still the Oilers" when, in fact, they were actually the Titans. I learned a dear lesson that day, but I'm a better man for it.
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                                                    • pimike
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 03-23-08
                                                      • 37140

                                                      #761
                                                      Where are you bro???

                                                      Was checking your picks? Hope all is well.
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                                                      • JayDr3am
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 05-06-14
                                                        • 18260

                                                        #762
                                                        Originally posted by pimike
                                                        Where are you bro???

                                                        Was checking your picks? Hope all is well.
                                                        he usually posts in the a.m
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                                                        • POOLSIDE
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 09-06-14
                                                          • 2839

                                                          #763
                                                          Originally posted by eddy munny
                                                          i did encounter a bit of a hitch in my giddyup, circa 1997, when i was capping houston's franchise. I totally flubbed that day when i stated "they're still the oilers" when, in fact, they were actually the titans. I learned a dear lesson that day, but i'm a better man for it.
                                                          hahahahaha
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                                                          • pimike
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 03-23-08
                                                            • 37140

                                                            #764
                                                            Originally posted by JayDr3am
                                                            he usually posts in the a.m
                                                            Oh, thanks!
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                                                            • 2daBank
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 01-26-09
                                                              • 88966

                                                              #765
                                                              what up everyone,, sorry last week was such a freaking disaster and sorrier i havnt been able to be on posting any games this week. after wrapping up my 2-5 sunday i had some fam stuff and been busy so to be honest this the 1st time ive even more than glanced at the card. pretty much just winging it so dont have much to back up this weeks plays.

                                                              dal+7 -120 (2x).. should have gotten sooner but again hadnt had the time. short handed, short week, consecutive road trips, and facing a gb team off a mini bye. all that yet i still dont buy pack as this big of favs, 10 days off not gonna change the fact they have no run game, nobody to stretch the field, adams hasnt improved in 2 years so i doubt these last 10 days changed much, once again rodgers gonna be well below the completion percentage we accustomed to seeing. the deciding moments of the mon night game were important cause i think it may have been some kind of revelation as matt cassel appeared to discover it a pretty good idea to throw dez the freaking football! if dez gonna have one monster game all season there no more fitting a venue than here where he got jobbed out of that great catch in last years playoffs. perfect convergence of health, outside factors that i think a guy like dez thrives on, and the backup qb pulling his head out of his ass are gonna lead to a performance that i think be strong enough to keep boys in it against a sputtering packer offense that i honestly dont think has a ton of upside..

                                                              jags -2 (2x).. dont get this line at all,. i talk bout jags a lot. imo they simply the better team. their home field prob isnt worth 3 points but i think they 3 points better on a neutral, i dont even gotta look at numbers to know my line has them at least -4.5/-5.5 range. laying less than 3 a no brainer imo. colts will prob focus on robinson and slow him down,, problem is the only thing they do decently on d is take away #1 wrs, unfortunately for them hurns back, lee getting more involved of late, thomas a matchup problem. way too many weapons on this jags offense if they can actually finish drives they win this handily, if they once again struggle in the red zone i still think they will pull it out. superior team in every facet of the game basically just having to win at home, sign me up..

                                                              bills/phi un 48 (1.5x).. eagles offense stinks, before their 3 week meltdown on defense they were actually a defense i talked up quite often as being underrated. expect the offense to continue to stink as long as that cross-eyed clown under center and expect the d to get back to playing at the level they capable of. sure you can pass on the bills but as mentioned phi has nothing resembling a qb, you know rex will feed shady all freaking day in this grudge match and i suspect he makes his former employers season even more miserable as he controls this game on the ground..

                                                              titans/jets un 43.5 (1.5x).. firmly believe this game will look a lot like titans/jags 1st meeting not the shootout we saw last week. points will be hard to come by all around in a game i think nyj dominates in 23-10 type fashion..


                                                              atl+7.5 (1x).. im glad i dont have time to explain cause cant imagine it sounds good. lol. what can i say, they hosed me in a winnable game last week and bottom line is if i pass here i know it end up being a game that comes down to wire. i believe it will be in fact that and would like compensated from last week.
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                                                              • aznjeff07
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 05-22-09
                                                                • 1295

                                                                #766
                                                                any thoughts on pit/cin and nol/tb overs?
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                                                                • 16kredit
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 11-16-13
                                                                  • 572

                                                                  #767
                                                                  Kick me in the head but I'm actually planning on playing baltimore + points. In this case seattle should win by 30 prolly. But this is the NFL so whatever. I trust the refs will help ravens
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                                                                  • 2daBank
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 01-26-09
                                                                    • 88966

                                                                    #768
                                                                    Originally posted by aznjeff07
                                                                    any thoughts on pit/cin and nol/tb overs?
                                                                    really hard to argue with the over in cincy, bungals play that shell and will limit big plays but they beat up in the secondary. steelers secondary plays like they injured. weapons all over the field, one banged up secondary, and one secondary that couldnt stop a cold. big game for both as well and think a very good case can be made for the over in cincy..

                                                                    far as tb/no i really expect martin to punish the aints on the ground. if lovie's team can accomplish anything they want you know lovie will opt to deflate the fb and speed this game up rather than get his rookie in a shootout with brees. just way i see it.
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                                                                    • aznjeff07
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 05-22-09
                                                                      • 1295

                                                                      #769
                                                                      thanks for the thoughts.
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                                                                      • 2daBank
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 01-26-09
                                                                        • 88966

                                                                        #770
                                                                        Originally posted by 16kredit
                                                                        Kick me in the head but I'm actually planning on playing baltimore + points. In this case seattle should win by 30 prolly. But this is the NFL so whatever. I trust the refs will help ravens
                                                                        seems like a very easy spot for sea to take their foot off the gas and win a game they probably only need to give 75% effort. i never blame anyone for taking double digits in the nfl, i basically refuse to lay more than 7 in this sport ever. even with pick 6 schaub id be on board with you, i just cant put money on that abomination ravens have playing qb today. gl man.
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