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  • R.P. McMurphy
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 06-15-12
    • 9654

    #666
    With you on Cowpokes Banker also gonna start open tease with Pack they win today. Bol and happy thanksgiving to you and yours bro. Good winnin
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    • 2daBank
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 01-26-09
      • 88966

      #667
      Originally posted by R.P. McMurphy
      With you on Cowpokes Banker also gonna start open tease with Pack they win today. Bol and happy thanksgiving to you and yours bro. Good winnin
      i was really hoping we see dal as small dogs and i was gonna tease them and pack. happy thanksgiving and gl to you as well buddy.
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      • Lucky1g
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 12-10-10
        • 5973

        #668
        Agree with Dallas. Good luck today and happy thanksgiving
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        • 2daBank
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 01-26-09
          • 88966

          #669
          Originally posted by Lucky1g
          Agree with Dallas. Good luck today and happy thanksgiving
          glad to hear it man. happy thanksgiving.
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          • chabooky386
            SBR MVP
            • 05-22-12
            • 1873

            #670
            Goodluck today brotha! Have a great thanksgiving!!!
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            • Notorious_Donk
              SBR MVP
              • 03-29-11
              • 2689

              #671
              Take my Packers on the spread. Huge night in Green Bay. Thanksgiving, Packers coming off a huge divisional win against the Vikings, and we will have Favre, Rodgers, and Bart Starr all in Lambeau for the game tonight. Packers roll tonight
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              • 2daBank
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 01-26-09
                • 88966

                #672
                hit the 2 props in det game so here a couple more turkey day specials (not counting these in record nor the others as im just screwing around )

                williams ov 49.5 receiving yards+110

                dez ov 70.5 +110

                romo ov 1.5 td passes -135

                gl everyone, go cowboys!
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                • snip3r2006
                  Restricted User
                  • 07-11-11
                  • 776

                  #673
                  Originally posted by 2daBank
                  hit the 2 props in det game so here a couple more turkey day specials (not counting these in record nor the others as im just screwing around )

                  williams ov 49.5 receiving yards+110

                  dez ov 70.5 +110

                  romo ov 1.5 td passes -135

                  gl everyone, go cowboys!
                  gl2u but this Game will be Carolina all the way 31-17
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                  • 16kredit
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 11-16-13
                    • 572

                    #674
                    Hey wassup Banks,
                    Any picks this week?
                    Only game I dont trust from my card is TB and MIN
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                    • 2daBank
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 01-26-09
                      • 88966

                      #675
                      Originally posted by 16kredit
                      Hey wassup Banks,
                      Any picks this week?
                      Only game I dont trust from my card is TB and MIN
                      Yea im working on card now, sorry been tied up w family stuff most the weekend so havnt had much time. 1st real look I didn't think card offered a whole lot but that certainly not gonna stop me, lol. Probably be less than most weeks but I'll have a few up shortly. Hard to argue against tb, I lean that way as well.
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                      • 2daBank
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 01-26-09
                        • 88966

                        #676
                        hou-3 (2x)...is the bye week and firing the fat ryan really enough to turn the aints around? we talking about a team that never been good on the road even when they were a contender, are 1-4 away this season, and have been waxed by a lot of avg to bad teams. is a new d coordinator gonna make a significant difference to a defense that been allowing damn near 500 yards their last 3? maybe they will look less lost but bottom line the secondary very beatable and as a whole the team are poor tacklers.

                        on the other side the texans come in playing very good fb, the defense is back to the unit we are accustomed to seeing and have been a nightmare for qbs on 3rd down. the offense has done enough even with hoyer out the last game and a half and now he returns with a full compliment of wrs. we all know how good hopkins is and he basically gets his against every secondary, doubt that changes here but if aints are hell bent on taking him away shorts and washington are plenty capable of producing for hoyer. this team is slowly starting to grow on me and i think probably the best team in the div right now..

                        imo hou is 2-3 points better than the aints on a neutral, they hold advantages all over the field on both sides of the ball in this matchup , i made this line 4.5-5.5 so unlike a couple other home favs i like where i think the line is much tighter (jets, kc, jags in particular) here we get the better team at home and only have to lay a fg. to me that value and makes texans my top play this week. 27-21 hou
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                        • 2daBank
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 01-26-09
                          • 88966

                          #677
                          Originally posted by 2daBank
                          hou-3 (2x)...is the bye week and firing the fat ryan really enough to turn the aints around? we talking about a team that never been good on the road even when they were a contender, are 1-4 away this season, and have been waxed by a lot of avg to bad teams. is a new d coordinator gonna make a significant difference to a defense that been allowing damn near 500 yards their last 3? maybe they will look less lost but bottom line the secondary very beatable and as a whole the team are poor tacklers.

                          on the other side the texans come in playing very good fb, the defense is back to the unit we are accustomed to seeing and have been a nightmare for qbs on 3rd down. the offense has done enough even with hoyer out the last game and a half and now he returns with a full compliment of wrs. we all know how good hopkins is and he basically gets his against every secondary, doubt that changes here but if aints are hell bent on taking him away shorts and washington are plenty capable of producing for hoyer. this team is slowly starting to grow on me and i think probably the best team in the div right now..

                          imo hou is 2-3 points better than the aints on a neutral, they hold advantages all over the field on both sides of the ball in this matchup , i made this line 4.5-5.5 so unlike a couple other home favs i like where i think the line is much tighter (jets, kc, jags in particular) here we get the better team at home and only have to lay a fg. to me that value and makes texans my top play this week. 27-21 hou
                          jets-4.5 (1x).. no secret how big a scrub i think fitzpatrick is as i mention it often, the guy is simply not the kind of qb that can carry the offense. that said he has talented wrs and when he has support from the run game he is capable. the fish have been getting steam rolled on the ground of late giving up almost 5 yards a carry the last month! jets gashed them to the tune of 207 in the 1st meeting and i suspect they get their run game back on track against these softies.

                          no revis here but honestly dont think it a huge deal, he not the shut down guy of the past and more importantly mia passing game just isnt that scary and will most likely have limited chances as the jets offense should control the game flow. bowles laid into his team this week and i like them to respond against a mia team that doesnt match up well at all.. this one of those situations where i think the line is correct but the styles make for a beatable number. like the jets by a td here 24-16..
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                          • killersweet
                            SBR MVP
                            • 12-02-08
                            • 1483

                            #678
                            Any totals today banker?
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                            • 2daBank
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 01-26-09
                              • 88966

                              #679
                              Originally posted by 2daBank
                              hou-3 (2x)...is the bye week and firing the fat ryan really enough to turn the aints around? we talking about a team that never been good on the road even when they were a contender, are 1-4 away this season, and have been waxed by a lot of avg to bad teams. is a new d coordinator gonna make a significant difference to a defense that been allowing damn near 500 yards their last 3? maybe they will look less lost but bottom line the secondary very beatable and as a whole the team are poor tacklers.

                              on the other side the texans come in playing very good fb, the defense is back to the unit we are accustomed to seeing and have been a nightmare for qbs on 3rd down. the offense has done enough even with hoyer out the last game and a half and now he returns with a full compliment of wrs. we all know how good hopkins is and he basically gets his against every secondary, doubt that changes here but if aints are hell bent on taking him away shorts and washington are plenty capable of producing for hoyer. this team is slowly starting to grow on me and i think probably the best team in the div right now..

                              imo hou is 2-3 points better than the aints on a neutral, they hold advantages all over the field on both sides of the ball in this matchup , i made this line 4.5-5.5 so unlike a couple other home favs i like where i think the line is much tighter (jets, kc, jags in particular) here we get the better team at home and only have to lay a fg. to me that value and makes texans my top play this week. 27-21 hou


                              jets-4.5 (1x).. no secret how big a scrub i think fitzpatrick is as i mention it often, the guy is simply not the kind of qb that can carry the offense. that said he has talented wrs and when he has support from the run game he is capable. the fish have been getting steam rolled on the ground of late giving up almost 5 yards a carry the last month! jets gashed them to the tune of 207 in the 1st meeting and i suspect they get their run game back on track against these softies.

                              no revis here but honestly dont think it a huge deal, he not the shut down guy of the past and more importantly mia passing game just isnt that scary and will most likely have limited chances as the jets offense should control the game flow. bowles laid into his team this week and i like them to respond against a mia team that doesnt match up well at all.. this one of those situations where i think the line is correct but the styles make for a beatable number. like the jets by a td here 24-16..
                              kc-4 (1x).. kc defense will be a nightmare for taylor. whoever rushes the ball more effectively has a huge edge as both these qbs are gonna have problems in obvious passing situations imo. both offenses very good at doing so and although kc down to their 3rd rb it plug and play for reid in this offense. where the advantage lies is kc run defense, they were solid in this area before the rest of their game rounded into shape and since have been elite. kc on fire and now back home on a 4 game winning streak, arrowhead will be rocking and the defense will make life miserable for tyrod and this vanilla offense..
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                              • POOLSIDE
                                SBR MVP
                                • 09-06-14
                                • 2839

                                #680
                                I'm with you on Houston. Let's get this.
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                                • 2daBank
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 01-26-09
                                  • 88966

                                  #681
                                  Originally posted by killersweet
                                  Any totals today banker?
                                  i lean a couple but my totals been crap in ncaa this week so little gun shy and there weather issues all over..

                                  like the under in kc. decent chance i play the over in sea. small leans to under in hou and over in washington..
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                                  • 2daBank
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 01-26-09
                                    • 88966

                                    #682
                                    Originally posted by 2daBank
                                    hou-3 (2x)...is the bye week and firing the fat ryan really enough to turn the aints around? we talking about a team that never been good on the road even when they were a contender, are 1-4 away this season, and have been waxed by a lot of avg to bad teams. is a new d coordinator gonna make a significant difference to a defense that been allowing damn near 500 yards their last 3? maybe they will look less lost but bottom line the secondary very beatable and as a whole the team are poor tacklers.

                                    on the other side the texans come in playing very good fb, the defense is back to the unit we are accustomed to seeing and have been a nightmare for qbs on 3rd down. the offense has done enough even with hoyer out the last game and a half and now he returns with a full compliment of wrs. we all know how good hopkins is and he basically gets his against every secondary, doubt that changes here but if aints are hell bent on taking him away shorts and washington are plenty capable of producing for hoyer. this team is slowly starting to grow on me and i think probably the best team in the div right now..

                                    imo hou is 2-3 points better than the aints on a neutral, they hold advantages all over the field on both sides of the ball in this matchup , i made this line 4.5-5.5 so unlike a couple other home favs i like where i think the line is much tighter (jets, kc, jags in particular) here we get the better team at home and only have to lay a fg. to me that value and makes texans my top play this week. 27-21 hou


                                    jets-4.5 (1x).. no secret how big a scrub i think fitzpatrick is as i mention it often, the guy is simply not the kind of qb that can carry the offense. that said he has talented wrs and when he has support from the run game he is capable. the fish have been getting steam rolled on the ground of late giving up almost 5 yards a carry the last month! jets gashed them to the tune of 207 in the 1st meeting and i suspect they get their run game back on track against these softies.

                                    no revis here but honestly dont think it a huge deal, he not the shut down guy of the past and more importantly mia passing game just isnt that scary and will most likely have limited chances as the jets offense should control the game flow. bowles laid into his team this week and i like them to respond against a mia team that doesnt match up well at all.. this one of those situations where i think the line is correct but the styles make for a beatable number. like the jets by a td here 24-16..


                                    kc-4 (1x).. kc defense will be a nightmare for taylor. whoever rushes the ball more effectively has a huge edge as both these qbs are gonna have problems in obvious passing situations imo. both offenses very good at doing so and although kc down to their 3rd rb it plug and play for reid in this offense. where the advantage lies is kc run defense, they were solid in this area before the rest of their game rounded into shape and since have been elite. kc on fire and now back home on a 4 game winning streak, arrowhead will be rocking and the defense will make life miserable for tyrod and this vanilla offense..
                                    buf/kc un 41 (1.5x).. not huge fan of the side total in same game but recently ive been doing ok when venturing here. just dont think bills can hang much more than 14 here, maybe 17 tops barring defensive or special teams scores. not like kc gonna light it up either, i kinda expect them to at least set up a score or 2 with defense and special teams but still think with that help we talking 23-24 points. 23-16 seems about right here.
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                                    • terrortwylight
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 11-04-09
                                      • 3032

                                      #683
                                      BOL today Bank!

                                      I got TB +3 at 1p. If it loses I'm doubling on Steelers.
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                                      • 2daBank
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 01-26-09
                                        • 88966

                                        #684
                                        Originally posted by terrortwylight
                                        BOL today Bank!

                                        I got TB +3 at 1p. If it loses I'm doubling on Steelers.
                                        i lean tb but colts been kinda a pain in the ass for me to get a handle on. havnt exactly been playing their games a lot but seems like outside taking them against pats playing jets early this season ive been mostly wrong with them whether it a lean or bet. last week i dont think i was really wrong being against them as much as atl a bunch of choking pussies who still prob win if freeman didnt get hurt. shamis been way better on the road as well.. think im talking myself into bucs but i do hate popular doggies, lol.
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                                        • 2daBank
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 01-26-09
                                          • 88966

                                          #685
                                          Originally posted by 2daBank
                                          hou-3 (2x)...is the bye week and firing the fat ryan really enough to turn the aints around? we talking about a team that never been good on the road even when they were a contender, are 1-4 away this season, and have been waxed by a lot of avg to bad teams. is a new d coordinator gonna make a significant difference to a defense that been allowing damn near 500 yards their last 3? maybe they will look less lost but bottom line the secondary very beatable and as a whole the team are poor tacklers.

                                          on the other side the texans come in playing very good fb, the defense is back to the unit we are accustomed to seeing and have been a nightmare for qbs on 3rd down. the offense has done enough even with hoyer out the last game and a half and now he returns with a full compliment of wrs. we all know how good hopkins is and he basically gets his against every secondary, doubt that changes here but if aints are hell bent on taking him away shorts and washington are plenty capable of producing for hoyer. this team is slowly starting to grow on me and i think probably the best team in the div right now..

                                          imo hou is 2-3 points better than the aints on a neutral, they hold advantages all over the field on both sides of the ball in this matchup , i made this line 4.5-5.5 so unlike a couple other home favs i like where i think the line is much tighter (jets, kc, jags in particular) here we get the better team at home and only have to lay a fg. to me that value and makes texans my top play this week. 27-21 hou


                                          jets-4.5 (1x).. no secret how big a scrub i think fitzpatrick is as i mention it often, the guy is simply not the kind of qb that can carry the offense. that said he has talented wrs and when he has support from the run game he is capable. the fish have been getting steam rolled on the ground of late giving up almost 5 yards a carry the last month! jets gashed them to the tune of 207 in the 1st meeting and i suspect they get their run game back on track against these softies.

                                          no revis here but honestly dont think it a huge deal, he not the shut down guy of the past and more importantly mia passing game just isnt that scary and will most likely have limited chances as the jets offense should control the game flow. bowles laid into his team this week and i like them to respond against a mia team that doesnt match up well at all.. this one of those situations where i think the line is correct but the styles make for a beatable number. like the jets by a td here 24-16..


                                          kc-4 (1x).. kc defense will be a nightmare for taylor. whoever rushes the ball more effectively has a huge edge as both these qbs are gonna have problems in obvious passing situations imo. both offenses very good at doing so and although kc down to their 3rd rb it plug and play for reid in this offense. where the advantage lies is kc run defense, they were solid in this area before the rest of their game rounded into shape and since have been elite. kc on fire and now back home on a 4 game winning streak, arrowhead will be rocking and the defense will make life miserable for tyrod and this vanilla offense..


                                          buf/kc un 41 (1.5x).. not huge fan of the side total in same game but recently ive been doing ok when venturing here. just dont think bills can hang much more than 14 here, maybe 17 tops barring defensive or special teams scores. not like kc gonna light it up either, i kinda expect them to at least set up a score or 2 with defense and special teams but still think with that help we talking 23-24 points. 23-16 seems about right here.
                                          kc-3 1st half (1x)
                                          sea/pit ov 46(1x)
                                          donks+3 (1.5x)

                                          that rounds out my card other than potential half time plays gl everyone
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                                          • JayDr3am
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 05-06-14
                                            • 18260

                                            #686
                                            GL bank!
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                                            • terrortwylight
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 11-04-09
                                              • 3032

                                              #687
                                              God damn Bank wish I woulda played NYJ with you.
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                                              • mikmik
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 05-13-12
                                                • 5457

                                                #688
                                                Donks?
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                                                • Falco88
                                                  SBR Hustler
                                                  • 01-05-15
                                                  • 76

                                                  #689
                                                  Originally posted by mikmik
                                                  Donks?
                                                  Broncos
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                                                  • Heandog
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 12-30-09
                                                    • 1634

                                                    #690
                                                    good going nice day.
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                                                    • 2daBank
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 01-26-09
                                                      • 88966

                                                      #691
                                                      Kicking myself in the ass for adding those extra plays to kc game. Other than those perfect on the day, dunno wtf I was thinking? Well guess I was thinking whole gm would look a lot similar to the second half, also at last second changed from kc to the total in btp, bummer. Hopefully den can figure out a way to win the nightcap, be warned Sunday nights been a bitch for me all season it feels like. Lol
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                                                      • 2daBank
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 01-26-09
                                                        • 88966

                                                        #692
                                                        5-2 +3.85 yesterday thanks to those silly 2 additions in kc game

                                                        cant forget dal making me look retarded on thu 0-1 -1.65

                                                        5-3 +2.20 for the week

                                                        62-49 +19.05 on the season.

                                                        sitting at 13th in BTP, switching to kc total instead of picking kc cost me, would be up to 8th had i not made that poor last second decision. what done is done, continue hitting my top play at a crazy high percentage. almost sad ive left it at 2x and not raised up to 3u as that usually my max.

                                                        really dont think there a play to be made tonight, kinda insane that browns getting so much love as favs. no way would i have them laying points to anyone, not really interested in backing balty either but i think it them or nothing, lean slightly to the over as well and if i was to post/play anything that would probably be it.
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                                                        • terrortwylight
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 11-04-09
                                                          • 3032

                                                          #693
                                                          I like that over a lot tonight.
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                                                          • 2daBank
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 01-26-09
                                                            • 88966

                                                            #694
                                                            week 13

                                                            oak +3 -120 (1.5x)..kc on fire and i been cashing with them the last 3 weeks while at the same time oak has been in a bit of a funk finally getting back in the winner circle last week when they were basically gifted a game in Tennessee. kc defense has been mostly great, they have a top notch run game regardless who reid plugs in to tote the rock on a given week, and they even managed to get smith to throw the ball down the field last week.

                                                            so why in the world do i like the raiders here?

                                                            styles make fights and if we can get oak to bring their best effort the raiders passing game matches up incredibly favorably to the chiefs biggest issue on defense, a issue that has been mostly masked by circumstances of opponents that have played right into their hands during this win streak. it no secret kc can flat out rush the qb, top 10 in sack percentage and top 5 the last month. it also known that this secondary can be had if the kc front isnt getting constant immediate pressure.
                                                            fact is during this win streak the chiefs have had the good fortune of playing some severely limited passing attacks, sure on the surface facing pit, det, den, sd, and buf doesnt appear like a cakewalk but consider landry jones was the pit qb, lions were still under former oc and sucking something fierce, donks were playing with a battered washed up peyton, chargers had no weapons on the outside and a decimated oline, then last week tyrod and watkins torched these guys in the 1st half, that tyrod taylor and one freaking weapon and that was enough as kc didnt get much pressure. they figured things out at halftime but how hard is that to figure out?

                                                            raiders present a much taller order. Carr spreads it around and seems to have another weapon at his disposal with the emergence of roberts to go along with cooper and crabtree. more importantly raiders do a excellent job of protecting carr as he been sacked the lowest percentage of his dropbacks in the league. chiefs also had houston leave last weeks game, doesnt seem likely he will be close to 100% for this game so the best pass protecting line in the nfl will be able to slide more help on hali without having to pay for it. If kc cannot generate pressure Carr will carve this team up.

                                                            As well as the kc offense has been playing they do not want to get into a shootout here. going toe to toe with the bills offense is one thing, needing smith to match td's with Carr is another. compounding that problem unlike oak the kc oline does not hold up great in pass protection, only russel wilson has been sacked on a higher percentage of his dropbacks than smith, the oline got a little banged up last week, and no team has been getting to opposing qbs more than the raiders the last 3 weeks. imo this is a really good spot to sell high on the chiefs, i dont even have kc 3 points better on a neutral so i question why they favored at all, this the same damn number we laid with kc vs a out manned and broken down charger team w little to no home field adv 2 weeks ago! this may end being my fav play of the week but for now im taking 1.5u on the +3 before it gone as i dont think it be here long.. lean strongly to the over as well in what i think a fairly high scoring game oak wins 27-23.
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                                                            • Time is Money
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 12-03-07
                                                              • 2255

                                                              #695
                                                              vikes at home? feel they should be laying 3 here, especially with news that graham is out. vikes been getting no respect from books all year. vikes coming into this week 9-2 ATS and I think they improve it to 10-2
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                                                              • 16kredit
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 11-16-13
                                                                • 572

                                                                #696
                                                                not to mention seattle different beast on the road. They have only beaten SF and Dallas outside the clink. Then again, low scoring game, maybe a late field goal will decide. So a PKem is hard to take on either side imo. 1st half under prolly will hit
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                                                                • 2daBank
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 01-26-09
                                                                  • 88966

                                                                  #697
                                                                  Originally posted by Time is Money
                                                                  vikes at home? feel they should be laying 3 here, especially with news that graham is out. vikes been getting no respect from books all year. vikes coming into this week 9-2 ATS and I think they improve it to 10-2
                                                                  i dont think it a good matchup for minny at all. the way to attack the seachicken defense is to spread them out and pick on the weaker corners and force cam to cover ppl. against the vikes chancoler gonna be able to be up in the box wreaking havoc. maybe they can take a page from panthers the way they got olsen open but rudolph is no olsen (nor is teddy b on cam's level).

                                                                  really looking forward to this game as i think it will be a old school type hard hitting defensive game. im just not sure minny will be able to have enough success on the ground here and i dont think they can succeed if ap isnt having a big day. reminds me a great deal of the kc game where min really struggled offensively against a very good kc run d. w/o aide of a defensive or special teams score i really dont think minny can score more than 17. maybe that enough to win, i dont think points will be easy to come by at all. i like the under and that will prob be my only play.
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                                                                  • Time is Money
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 12-03-07
                                                                    • 2255

                                                                    #698
                                                                    any leans on thurs?
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                                                                    • Eddy Munny
                                                                      Benched
                                                                      • 08-13-13
                                                                      • 15769

                                                                      #699
                                                                      I love the Raiders play, Bank... so much of being successful in this betting game is timing. The Chiefs have been running hot lately while the Raiders have slipped a bit, at least in bettors' minds. Now we get the home team with three points in our pocket... if this game were played three or four weeks ago, Raiders are probably laying three. That's a six point swing! Have these teams really changed all that much to warrant that dramatic of a swing in price? I don't believe so. I think the Raiders match up well here for the reasons you mentioned, and we get them at home, with an enhanced sense of urgency, and points to boot. Sign me up.
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                                                                      • 2daBank
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 01-26-09
                                                                        • 88966

                                                                        #700
                                                                        Originally posted by Time is Money
                                                                        any leans on thurs?
                                                                        i really think lions are the play but i hate thu and the idea of expecting them to beat pack twice in such a short amount of time. even with that in mind it very hard to look at the way both teams are playing and not like lions plus anything really, imo line shouldnt be more than a pk..
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