Bankers throwing darts at the NFL all season (again)...

[2daBank]

What's the best site for live betting? I tried to get Bama ML down 14-0 but 3 sites and no lines.

Not big on fb but like live on hoops.

Bet dsi has great live betting options I must say made some good money using it this week

dsi/bookmaker and bol are both very good...man if that retarded ass ending didnt happen in wiscy/asu gm i would have pimped slapped them with the middles i had working..had asu +2.5 +115 pretty good, then when they went up 8 i hit wisky ml +340 and over 62.5..not sure wtf coach was thinking and not sure what gave that ref the right to not let them spike the ball bust cost me a really sweet middle.. did good with the osu/utah gm also but man if i could have got utes to pull that out by anywhere between 1-4 points it would have been steak and lobster time,,, so close on both, still did ok but man what could have been after a day where not much went very right (thanx to my boy money mayweather fro the free cheese tho!)..

[2daBank]

hey ! im one of those squares with money on the saints! my book has at -4.5 now, I snagged earlier in week at -2.5

I also like rams at +7 and gonna probably make carolina a 2unit bet since you like it too....

Im pissed I missed the seasons 1st half under banker thursday special, an especially easy cash (with those 2 teams, pats with beat up offense and geno smith) because I was freaking locked up in la county! dammit!

ha certainly doesnt shock me you on the aints! wish i could get a 4.5 with bucs as that make this play a whole lot easier as id like all the insurance i can get.. trust me wont be the 1st time i was wrong on this gm but anyone buying this saints d as improved is overlooking some obvious facts imo (like they dont even have 4 healthy, decent lbs and they run a 3-4). yes they tricked atl schematically but that was way more on the falcons as why the choose to only run 14 times when they were avg 6.3 ypc is beyond me? i can assure you that wont be the case this week and gimmick defense dont stop the run as that takes man on man physicality that the saints do not possess.. i think martin goes for every bit of 150 in this gm and at some point aints will have to overcommit to the run and then even freemon can hit vjax over the top..personally think tampa's d will get better every week as that front 4 was already a bunch of studs coming into the year and the more revis and golston get reps the moe dominate the will become, i have no doubts aints will struggle to run, bucs front will be able to pin their ears back, and revis can lock colsten up 1 on 1 leaving them options to bracket graham and get creative with sproles... sure brees will do some things and sure he could win this gm but if tampa smart he wont get a lot of chances as they will pound that Charmin soft d into the dirt...do worry bout freeman, not sure i like tb coach, there are some concerns for me and id love more points but saints on grass nothing special, typically split this series with bucs (besides last year when refs handed them the w), and imo will not exactly getting the credit from oddsmakers they are receiving way to much credit from the majority over what was a gm i expected them to win while of coarse everyone that got killed taking bucs last week now have decided they are much worse than they truly are..you know me, i cant help myself in spots like this just wish line would get bet back up some...but hey at least one of us will win..

hopefully you got rams early as that why i posted them so soon in the week as that number is long gone and dropped even further than i expected but im assuming that has something to do with news that both roddy and julio banged up not just cause giving rams a full td was stupid in the 1st place..

next week will be much bigger test for out thu night 1st half under but hopefully philly score so many this week that we get a nice fat number to work with as even tho i love philly overs nothing stops the thu night train!!! gl this weekend brother

[2daBank]

plays that were made and posted already...not gonna re-wright anything on them as thoughts are a page or 2 back if interested, no problem answering any questions anyone may have tho..

rams+7.. 1x

sd/phi ov 53.. 1.5x

nyj/pats 1st half un 21.5. 1.5x

gonna try and knock out more of the card between now and morning..

panthers -3 -105..1x..

two team 6 point teaser... 1.5x

phins +8.5
hou-2

1st teaser posting this yr but if ya know me ya know i certainly think there a place for these and typically play about 1 (sometimes 2 a week)...to me this a no brainer and will be happy to talk bout each gm although dont think much needs to be said bout hou so will focus on the mia/indy gm..

i actually like phins to win this gm str8 up and if can any kind of a decent number on the ml i will more than likely take it..mia is not a good matchup for indy and gave them everything they wanted last yr in this same building. phins boast one of the most difficult blitz packages to decipher as evidence picking up right where they left off last season as a top 10 unit at getting after the passer, a lot of that is talent and a lot of it is scheme as the run that sugar package that makes it difficult for the olineman to figure out where the pressure is coming from and actually allows them to create favorable numbers without even bringing extra guys, it is very well done and lets just say the colts oline is far from elite when it comes to protecting luck. as i mentioned this gm was incredibly close last season and imo phins have did much more to improve their cause as i believe indy may have actually regressed with arians and his 3 wr offense that took adv of his personnel leaving for zona while colts bring in a guy that for some reason rather not let his stud qb throw down the field to wayne and one of the most dynamic young wrs in the league in ty hilton. in the end i think while not a wallace fan and think he could lead to a locker room problem he opens up the field for hartline and other guys to have space to work, sure tannenhill is not the runner of priors talents but he is a athletic guy that can get out if the opportunity presents itself and unlike prior is actually a decently accurate passer..the tease here is simple, can you name who inday has beaten by a td since the luck era began? i can, hou when they didnt care at the end of the year and jax, that is it, hell they made oak a tough out last week and even if luck pulls another one out his ass there simply no way they beat this phins team by more than a td imo as the mathcups favor mia and indy is actually a team that presents them a opportunity to get their run gm on track....

like i said not much to say bout hou, dont care bout monday night. not worried bout locker hurting them to bad and expect cj2k to have another not so hot week against one of the better d;s... il take hou at less than 3 all day every day...

[killersweet]

bank, what do you think about this teaser: 6.5 point teaser?
Rams +13
Miami +9
SF +9.5

thanks.

[2daBank]

bank, what do you think about this teaser: 6.5 point teaser?
Rams +13
Miami +9
SF +9.5

thanks.

honestly im not a fan of more than 2 teams simply cause they all look good and seems when i add teams that what gets me..on surface i like them all cept think i would go ahead and make it a 7 pointer to get mia and sf off dead numbers and push rams to full 14 (even tho obviously i like them +7)..

[killersweet]

honestly im not a fan of more than 2 teams simply cause they all look good and seems when i add teams that what gets me..on surface i like them all cept think i would go ahead and make it a 7 pointer to get mia and sf off dead numbers and push rams to full 14 (even tho obviously i like them +7)..

sounds good. thanks. Any o/u standing out today? I am leaning towards over in the giants game. Manning brothers probably going to try and out do each other. Both teams got some nice receiving cores......Randle looks good for giants.

[2daBank]

sounds good. thanks. Any o/u standing out today? I am leaning towards over in the giants game. Manning brothers probably going to try and out do each other. Both teams got some nice receiving cores......Randle looks good for giants.

that certainly seems as good as any,,for some reason ive been somewhat hesitant to play it, dont know why as you right nyg one of the few teams that wrs dont really take much of a backseat to den trio.. guess i have this suspicion about nyg run gm, i kinda think barring another fumble gmen try and really get wilson and whoever else off and try to keep peyton on the sideline then id assume they play a big shell defense and let him drive the field and force them into fgs, just a hunch tho....


been eying this minny/bears un 42 for a while now and am pretty close to pulling the trigger on that, just little worried sloppy conditions could lead to turnovers..

[dilaudid8]

bank good morning my brother great write up the best. gl today make your bookmaker pay I like your teaser a lot

[dilaudid8]

yeah I have SF +13 for my last leg of my teaser i'm thinking betting SEATTLE -3

[Capybara]

two team 6 point teaser... 1.5x

phins +8.5
hou-2

1st teaser posting this yr but if ya know me ya know i certainly think there a place for these and typically play about 1 (sometimes 2 a week)...to me this a no brainer and will be happy to talk bout each gm although dont think much needs to be said bout hou so will focus on the mia/indy gm..

i actually like phins to win this gm str8 up and if can any kind of a decent number on the ml i will more than likely take it..mia is not a good matchup for indy and gave them everything they wanted last yr in this same building. phins boast one of the most difficult blitz packages to decipher as evidence picking up right where they left off last season as a top 10 unit at getting after the passer, a lot of that is talent and a lot of it is scheme as the run that sugar package that makes it difficult for the olineman to figure out where the pressure is coming from and actually allows them to create favorable numbers without even bringing extra guys, it is very well done and lets just say the colts oline is far from elite when it comes to protecting luck. as i mentioned this gm was incredibly close last season and imo phins have did much more to improve their cause as i believe indy may have actually regressed with arians and his 3 wr offense that took adv of his personnel leaving for zona while colts bring in a guy that for some reason rather not let his stud qb throw down the field to wayne and one of the most dynamic young wrs in the league in ty hilton. in the end i think while not a wallace fan and think he could lead to a locker room problem he opens up the field for hartline and other guys to have space to work, sure tannenhill is not the runner of priors talents but he is a athletic guy that can get out if the opportunity presents itself and unlike prior is actually a decently accurate passer..the tease here is simple, can you name who inday has beaten by a td since the luck era began? i can, hou when they didnt care at the end of the year and jax, that is it, hell they made oak a tough out last week and even if luck pulls another one out his ass there simply no way they beat this phins team by more than a td imo as the mathcups favor mia and indy is actually a team that presents them a opportunity to get their run gm on track....

like i said not much to say bout hou, dont care bout monday night. not worried bout locker hurting them to bad and expect cj2k to have another not so hot week against one of the better d;s... il take hou at less than 3 all day every day...

Love this teaser, Bank. I was also thinking about one with the 'Fins, but with Cincy (even though I already like Cincy at -6 and have that as a play in my thread). But can't see how this teaser doesn't hit. Of course, those words are often spoken only to see us bewildered later. :-P

[2daBank]

Love this teaser, Bank. I was also thinking about one with the 'Fins, but with Cincy (even though I already like Cincy at -6 and have that as a play in my thread). But can't see how this teaser doesn't hit. Of course, those words are often spoken only to see us bewildered later. :-P

lol. truer words never been spoken...guess that the thing bout teasers damn things usually look good but have had pretty good success with them last few years since started limiting myself to 2 teams and only 1 or 2 a week tops...

[2daBank]

yeah I have SF +13 for my last leg of my teaser i'm thinking betting SEATTLE -3

certainly a nice little middle opportunity..i actually think sf is gonna go where no one wins and win tonight tho as sea still missing few key pieces up front..

[2daBank]

Originally Posted by 2daBank
plays that were made and posted already...not gonna re-wright anything on them as thoughts are a page or 2 back if interested, no problem answering any questions anyone may have tho..

rams+7.. 1x

sd/phi ov 53.. 1.5x

nyj/pats 1st half un 21.5. 1.5x

gonna try and knock out more of the card between now and morning..
Originally Posted by 2daBank

panthers -3 -105..1x..

two team 6 point teaser... 1.5x

phins +8.5
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minny tt un 17.5 -110 .. 1x.. i was really debating how to go about this total as i have it very close to the gm number but do lean under, the simple fact is what drove me this route and the thing that kept me off the gm total is the fact i worry bears defense/special teams could blow this thing open... only once in the last 6 meetings have the vikings surpassed this number and that was the last gm they played in minny where ap str8 went off and min managed 21.. the only chink in the bears defense last week was they just could not stop aj green well i think we can all agree there is no aj on this min team or a dalton at qb for that matter. field gonna be sloppy, it gonna be a little windy and bears will be able to cram everyone up to the line to contain ap as ponder and his crew of suspect wrs are not scaring this secondary.. was thrilled to see 17.5 as i made 17 the high side on minnys total and have my doubts they even hit that. to me this was just safer way to get involved in a under i liked but was worried of ponder turnovers and punt returns leading to extra points that push it over this number, i more than most trust in cutler to stay clean as he did against a very good cincy d and use plenty of drop offs to forte after seeing what bush and bell did to this vikings team who i simply do not think is very good.. id have no problem with playing bears either except again the conditions may lead to a uglier gm where bears only score in the 20-23 point range and could conceivably not cover (although i think they do, couldnt ignore the history of how bears d has shut down this offense)..

[dilaudid8]

bank you could be right the more I look at this game. like you said TB most likely will try to run the ball and that means clock running. I don't think TB will score a lot if TB wins this game I think it will be real low scoring the under might be the play. I could see TB taking 6 or 8 min off the clock gl my brother

[dilaudid8]

bank I think the last 8 or 9 game's the under has gone 9-1 TB

[2daBank]

bank you could be right the more I look at this game. like you said TB most likely will try to run the ball and that means clock running. I don't think TB will score a lot if TB wins this game I think it will be real low scoring the under might be the play. I could see TB taking 6 or 8 min off the clock gl my brother

while in principal i really like bucs im worried about the things coming out of that locker room.. starting to feel like that coash is in danger of losing the team and his qb, it not like freeman the most talented guy already so i dont like hearing there issues between him and his coach.. under could very well be a good way to go about it, i will look more into it right now as most the week i been so hell bent on betting tampa i didnt give the total much consideration...

[dilaudid8]

bank sounds good

[YOUNGBUCK]

Thinkin ab playin Lions wat u think Bank

[2daBank]

Thinkin ab playin Lions wat u think Bank

i actually lean cards..dunno if i play if but not ready to say that lions deserve to be a road fav vs a solid team... lions dline will no doubt cause zona some problems but overall defensive i dont even think it close cards is far superior and the times palmer has to throw the ball he has 3 guys that no one in that det secondary can check.. det such a terribly coached, undisciplined team there just no way im changing my opinion of them cause they beat what i consider a bottom feeder vikings team and really think zona has the secondary players to be able to at least make megatron work and still deal with bush..not a home dog im trying to go against but gl if you play it bro..

[Madison]

honestly im not a fan of more than 2 teams simply cause they all look good and seems when i add teams that what gets me..on surface i like them all cept think i would go ahead and make it a 7 pointer to get mia and sf off dead numbers and push rams to full 14 (even tho obviously i like them +7)..

This exactly right. You are buying dead numbers between 11-13 (ties lose) and 7-9.5. I don't know when wong became famous but I've been successfully beating teasers sine the 70's. You need to understand the value of the points you are buying i.e 3,4,6,7,10,11, etc

[YOUNGBUCK]

Is Fitz playing?

[Madison]

dsi/bookmaker and bol are both very good...man if that retarded ass ending didnt happen in wiscy/asu gm i would have pimped slapped them with the middles i had working..had asu +2.5 +115 pretty good, then when they went up 8 i hit wisky ml +340 and over 62.5..not sure wtf coach was thinking and not sure what gave that ref the right to not let them spike the ball bust cost me a really sweet middle.. did good with the osu/utah gm also but man if i could have got utes to pull that out by anywhere between 1-4 points it would have been steak and lobster time,,, so close on both, still did ok but man what could have been after a day where not much went very right (thanx to my boy money mayweather fro the free cheese tho!)..

Thanks 2DB. Tough beat on the middle. I'm a sucker for them myself. Problem I think they increase the possibility of pain. LOL.

[Capybara]

Is Fitz playing?

All signs point to Yes. Had been looking like a game-time call, but reports are that he's def playing.

I agree with Banker on this one, little tough to support Lions as a road Fave, they're so up and down. Arizona is an improved team.

[Madison]

lol. truer words never been spoken...guess that the thing bout teasers damn things usually look good but have had pretty good success with them last few years since started limiting myself to 2 teams and only 1 or 2 a week tops...

Again exactly correct. The key here is make your best play and live or die with. Teasers are intoxicating and the sooner one learns they are like alcohol ... a few ok but the more you do/have the worse things get. GL!

[2daBank]

Is Fitz playing?

i just got a alert from some site i subscribe to that said yes he a go. way i see it fitz could whip lions corners in a walking boot, plus they stacked with floyd and that other cat who's name is slipping my mind atm..

[2daBank]

This exactly right. You are buying dead numbers between 11-13 (ties lose) and 7-9.5. I don't know when wong became famous but I've been successfully beating teasers sine the 70's. You need to understand the value of the points you are buying i.e 3,4,6,7,10,11, etc

you kill those 4 teamers with huge points, think i can only recall ever seeing you miss 1.. i cant do them, 4 teams? especially since more often than not when i miss i miss bad!! lol

[R.P. McMurphy]

Nice looking card Banker! Taking Zona, Diego, Houston and gonna do a 3t tease with Pack, Cowpokes, and either Miami or Rams. What cha think? Good winnin bro!

[Madison]

One other thing with wong type teasers that wasn't available years ago was the ML parlay. Double checking your best value. Not often the books screw up these days but occasionally you'll find better value and no points to worry about.

2DB, sorry for highjacking thread. Just love it and get rolling. LMK if I overstep my bounds.

[killersweet]

that certainly seems as good as any,,for some reason ive been somewhat hesitant to play it, dont know why as you right nyg one of the few teams that wrs dont really take much of a backseat to den trio.. guess i have this suspicion about nyg run gm, i kinda think barring another fumble gmen try and really get wilson and whoever else off and try to keep peyton on the sideline then id assume they play a big shell defense and let him drive the field and force them into fgs, just a hunch tho....

lead to turnovers..

I expect Wilson to bounce back today. He is a talented RB and I think he comes out strong today. But if the giants fall behind quickly, then eli gonna air it out and they got capable WRs....so most likely a high scoring game. then again, the number is high and like u said, if giants run a lot, it may come close, but may stay under still...!. SD has trouble with 1 PM games...do u think it still be a high scoring affair?
been eying this minny/bears un 42 for a while now and am pretty close to pulling the trigger on that, just little worried sloppy conditions could

[2daBank]

I expect Wilson to bounce back today. He is a talented RB and I think he comes out strong today. But if the giants fall behind quickly, then eli gonna air it out and they got capable WRs....so most likely a high scoring game. then again, the number is high and like u said, if giants run a lot, it may come close, but may stay under still...!. SD has trouble with 1 PM games...do u think it still be a high scoring affair?
been eying this minny/bears un 42 for a while now and am pretty close to pulling the trigger on that, just little worried sloppy conditions could

you see what i did with it a few post up (Bears total)? think much better option, minny tt un 17.5 (wrote why above).. doesnt worry me if sd sleepwalking early then philly will jump all over them and go into prevent mode in 2nd half and let rivers put some points up... that what i love bout this philly team is there so many ways to get the over, if a team shuts them down it gonna tax phi defense so they will get gashed then philly be playing catch up, if philly comes out smoking other teamn forced to get pass happy...i say get while the getting good cause i suspect we gonna start seeing these totals over 56 soon then it gets more dicey..

[2daBank]

far as den/nyg i really believe coughlin will try and take the air out of the ball early so i think what im gonna do is wait and hope to get a better number live, i mean if it turns into a track meet early who cares you can keep hitting shitty numbers live and prob cash a bunch of them..

[Madison]

you kill those 4 teamers with huge points, think i can only recall ever seeing you miss 1.. i cant do them, 4 teams? especially since more often than not when i miss i miss bad!! lol

Thanks for the compliment banker but yeah I missed a few. Honestly I think the key is to have the discipline to not become intoxicated with them. I think my success was more due to my discipline than my capping ability. I posted one a week in Biff's thread LY and think I was somewhere around +18U. I bow to you when it comes to actual capping. I'm just managing numbers.

[Capybara]

So Banker, those four plays in Post #258 above are your only four of the week so far? Plus the one teaser? Just curious because I know you've talked about other stuff...

Good job on the NE 1H under, by the way; no idea why I wasn't on that as I had a friggin' love affair with 1H unders last season. Probably my most profitable overall play, even though unders are no fun to root for.

I'm already on Rams and I agree with your other two plays as well, may have to jump on. Hope we have another good weekend! Let's get it!

[2daBank]

So Banker, those four plays in Post #258 above are your only four of the week so far? Plus the one teaser? Just curious because I know you've talked about other stuff...

Good job on the NE 1H under, by the way; no idea why I wasn't on that as I had a friggin' love affair with 1H unders last season. Probably my most profitable overall play, even though unders are no fun to root for.

I'm already on Rams and I agree with your other two plays as well, may have to jump on. Hope we have another good weekend! Let's get it!

i count 5 in that post with the minny tt under being number 5...that doesnt feel like nearly enough so think im bout to pop off 3 or 4 more! lol.. tampa the only one i really recall wanting to bet that i kinda have backed off somewhat only cause dont like all the stuff coming up with freeman, although still wanna play them! really close to adding phins ml, cards ml. tb ml..

[2daBank]

Originally Posted by 2daBank
plays that were made and posted already...not gonna re-wright anything on them as thoughts are a page or 2 back if interested, no problem answering any questions anyone may have tho..

rams+7.. 1x

sd/phi ov 53.. 1.5x

nyj/pats 1st half un 21.5. 1.5x

gonna try and knock out more of the card between now and morning..
Originally Posted by 2daBank

panthers -3 -105..1x..







Originally Posted by 2daBank
two team 6 point teaser... 1.5x

phins +8.5
hou-2





minny tt un 17.5 -110 .. 1x..

doggie mls just half unit.

phins ml +128

zona ml +115

still very good chance i play bucs and maybe something on the den/nyg gm..of coarse some halftimes if i do will post from phone as i gotta get outta here!!

gl everyone