Bankers throwing darts at the NFL all season (again)...

[2daBank]

I just can't stop going back to that indy game. SD ran pretty well and I could argue that colts D at least similar to Denvers (maybe not statistically because no one been in a game yet with den so no one been able to run...). Gotta remember too that Chargers settled for 3 redzone fieldgoals and 1 right outside the redzone...that game easily could have been a lot uglier(while still going UNDER). DEN and indy both big games for chargers, both at home, underdogs in both, both following a SD road loss, both games "supposed" to be high scoring, both have an ABSURD amount of public money on road fav and over, both road favs with a look ahead game...see what I'm saying?

I for one haven't been riding this DEN over train but for the last 3 games I been looking for a spot to go under and I think situationally this easily the best one. Obv either of us could be wrong that's the beauty of betting sports i guess...

How do you feel about that PHI/GB game? I'm thinking GB D stands up and they get an easy win. People high on Foles and low on GB after that shit performance from seneca but give this dude a week to prepare as opposed to tossing him in the middle of a primetime divisional match and he can prolly complete some passes. Might not even need to if GB runs up and down the field on them...Just hard to believe GB could go from a 9.5 fav to a slightly juiced pick'em...

the difference from indy gm for me isnt what chargers could potentially do on offense w the ball control gm it is the fact that when peyton has the ball he wont be running the bs plays that pep hamilton hell bent on running and will know he has to score on a defense that can be had when he gets the ball. i didnt mess with that total in the indy/sd monday nighter, may have played or leaned chargers i forget? clearly there teams that chargers can rattle by possessing the ball for long stretches just dont think that will do anything but add to peytons sense of urgency when he on the field against a team that allows the most yards per play in the league and is among the worst at getting off the field on 3rd downs.. i see your point and took way into account the chances den has limited opportunities, even so i think they score on at least half of them and for sd to get this gm the offense isnt gonna be afforded the luxury of settling like the were against a indy offense i like the pieces of but not how they utilized..

far as pack gm rodgers gotta be worth around a td but maybe less compared to years past as their run gm is legit.. hanvt gotten around to looking at phi run d or what i think packs ability to handle philly offense is as of yet but i certainly lean to where you at, trust McCarthy as a offensive mind to implement a gm plan that can work vs philly and tailor to what wallace does well.. def pack or nothing just havnt gotten far on this one yet..

[2daBank]

thu night..

skins/minny 1st half un 24 +105 (1x)..kept it lowered but still playing it, could have got 24.5 with little juice or actually -105 earlier but was still debating.. there a lot of ways you could look at this gm and it would certainly be easy to talk about the defenses being bad and it be pretty hard for me to argue.. in the skins defense (or their defense) look at the teams they have had to face this season, it basically a who's who of elite offenses with the raiders thrown in the middle, maybe philly not elite but being the 1st team to see that offense wasnta easy task, now im not saying they world beaters but playing minny's 1 dimensional attack should be a site for sore eyes..actually have thought there been times the last 3 weeks the skins defense has shown improvement but again they were facing some of the best offenses so kinda have to measure it in doses.. they been solid getting teams off the field on 3rd down allowing 35% rate on the year and which good for 8th and have been a even better 31% the last 3 weeks which were against sd, den, and chi i think we can agree all better than minny. the skin run d hasnt been good but that is fine, im plenty content with ap chewing up some yards before a penalty or a stuffed run gets ponder behind the chains then we will get a stalled drive and punt...

on other side minny run d isnt terrible and i cant say enough how bad rg3 is as a pocket passer, skins have no choice but to run whether it just zone runs with morris or the read option cause rg3 simply does not anticipate throws, he hold the ball until he sees his man get open which you cant do in this league, you gotta throw where your man gonna be you cant wait on it.. which why jordan reed becoming his fav target cause he makes himself available so rg3 sees it and can connect but far as letting it go before a wr comes out of his break the accuracy , field vision, anticipation just isnt there..so while i know you can beat these viking corners how many times will we get stalled drives simply on errand throws? i do think skins can move the ball with the te and rg3 making plays out of pocket as that not a easy thing to prep for on short week but again i think more drives will stall out if not cause of good defense then poor offense..

i do lean skins in this gm (like the rest of the world i suppose), if only cause i think they possess the advantage on 3rd down on both sides of the ball and are very strong when they get into the red zone..bottom line is east is general like a broken record and i expect all 4 teams to be neck and neck before long and that starts with skins as bad as they are going and beating a poorly coached one dimensional minny team that is going nowhere so i will bite for a little on a side as well (even tho i hate thu night sides)..since this a degen gm lets make it some degen action..

3 team parlay +365 (.5x)

skins-1
1st half un 24
ducks ml

[SmittyZ28]

Love the parlay bank, on all 3 individually and threw a unit on them parlayed together

good luck kid

[SmittyZ28]

thu night..

skins/minny 1st half un 24 +105 (1x)..kept it lowered but still playing it, could have got 24.5 with little juice or actually -105 earlier but was still debating.. there a lot of ways you could look at this gm and it would certainly be easy to talk about the defenses being bad and it be pretty hard for me to argue.. in the skins defense (or their defense) look at the teams they have had to face this season, it basically a who's who of elite offenses with the raiders thrown in the middle, maybe philly not elite but being the 1st team to see that offense wasnta easy task, now im not saying they world beaters but playing minny's 1 dimensional attack should be a site for sore eyes..actually have thought there been times the last 3 weeks the skins defense has shown improvement but again they were facing some of the best offenses so kinda have to measure it in doses.. they been solid getting teams off the field on 3rd down allowing 35% rate on the year and which good for 8th and have been a even better 31% the last 3 weeks which were against sd, den, and chi i think we can agree all better than minny. the skin run d hasnt been good but that is fine, im plenty content with ap chewing up some yards before a penalty or a stuffed run gets ponder behind the chains then we will get a stalled drive and punt...

on other side minny run d isnt terrible and i cant say enough how bad rg3 is as a pocket passer, skins have no choice but to run whether it just zone runs with morris or the read option cause rg3 simply does not anticipate throws, he hold the ball until he sees his man get open which you cant do in this league, you gotta throw where your man gonna be you cant wait on it.. which why jordan reed becoming his fav target cause he makes himself available so rg3 sees it and can connect but far as letting it go before a wr comes out of his break the accuracy , field vision, anticipation just isnt there..so while i know you can beat these viking corners how many times will we get stalled drives simply on errand throws? i do think skins can move the ball with the te and rg3 making plays out of pocket as that not a easy thing to prep for on short week but again i think more drives will stall out if not cause of good defense then poor offense..

i do lean skins in this gm (like the rest of the world i suppose), if only cause i think they possess the advantage on 3rd down on both sides of the ball and are very strong when they get into the red zone..bottom line is east is general like a broken record and i expect all 4 teams to be neck and neck before long and that starts with skins as bad as they are going and beating a poorly coached one dimensional minny team that is going nowhere so i will bite for a little on a side as well (even tho i hate thu night sides)..since this a degen gm lets make it some degen action..

3 team parlay +365 (.5x)

skins-1
1st half un 24
ducks ml

Wow we basically lost this one in the 1Q, we knew they would move the ball but WOW is the Redskins D TERRIBLE, cannot believe the Vikes are moving the ball as well as they are. Obviously had a break on that penalty but, damn

[2daBank]

pack ml +105 (1.5x).... woulda never touched this gm if rodgers was qb and this spread was 8-10, take away discount double bitch who is one of most important players in game and here we go im on the pack... dont get me wrong i think rodgers is great and all, if this was last yr i wouldnt probably feel the same way however pack this season have something they havnt had in some time and that is a tough physical run gm..

this oline doesnt pass protect for shit but they do open holes for lacy and starks and they will continue doing work this week.. honestly not sure they could have picked a better team for this game than the eagles and chip kelly who allow opponents the most time of possession in the league with his combination of hurry up offense and a defense that ranks 20th in the league getting off the field on 3rd down, i suspect pack can and will wear down this philly defense throughout the coarse of the day with a power run gm and enough play action to make wallace's life easy...wallace will look a lot better with a week of reps under his belt and mccarthy tailoring a game plan to fit his strengths, im aware of his record as a starter but my response to that is what has matt flynn turned out like?

far as philly goes last week drumming of oak didnt really change my opinion of Foles, impressive gm but im still not a buyer.. pack run d has been solid for the most part and still dont think shady is nearly as effective w/o the threat of vick who helps them create seams in the run gm that foles simply does not.. pack can force them to be 1 dimensional and i simply dont buy foles as the guy who gonna beat ya by himself standing back and chucking it..

bottom line is i expect to a man that the pack step up all over the field in this gm, punish philly with those big strong rbs and make enough plays on defense to beat a team that being deemed as road warriors for some reason, sure philly cant win at home, sure their road record is 4-1, think what being left out here is that the 4 wins philly has on the road consist of skins, nyg, oak, and tampa! not exactly a murderers row, and while sure they catching a break w rodgers being out i suspect they also getting ready to walk into the room of a wounded animal and get punched in the mouth... +105 for gb at home vs a team that gets overrated every time their offense shows up for a week? yea pack on a short week but philly played in oak last week now they back on road feeling themselves a little as favs against a team everyone is leaving for dead.. pack win this gm by being physical, controlling the clock, and wearing eagles down.. 26-21 pack..

[2daBank]

panthers+6 (2x)...talk bout this team every week, have either posted thoughts on this gm here or elsewhere but it pretty simple to me. they giving me too many points with a team that plays very good d and has a very good rushing attack.. all i hear is panthers being discredited for beating bad teams but who has sf been beating? and sf been doing it by rushing the ball and physically pounding teams, they not gonna out physical the panthers.. i think this a slugfest, points will be at a premium so ill take the 6 with the qb i actually trust more as this gm gonna come down to which qb can make a few plays w/o making the mistakes..

[freezefail]

panthers+6 (2x)...talk bout this team every week, have either posted thoughts on this gm here or elsewhere but it pretty simple to me. they giving me too many points with a team that plays very good d and has a very good rushing attack.. all i hear is panthers being discredited for beating bad teams but who has sf been beating? and sf been doing it by rushing the ball and physically pounding teams, they not gonna out physical the panthers.. i think this a slugfest, points will be at a premium so ill take the 6 with the qb i actually trust more as this gm gonna come down to which qb can make a few plays w/o making the mistakes..

Niners getting back too many weapons... Panthers are going to get decimated in the air

[2daBank]

Niners getting back too many weapons... Panthers are going to get decimated in the air

who mario manningham? when the last time that guy played a game? im not too worried about panthers defense, sf hasnt decimated anyone through the air since week 1..

[Simon Gruber]

Interesting what's going on w this Colts line. Now down to 7' @ Pinny and Bookmaker.

[2daBank]

pack ml +105 (1.5x).... woulda never touched this gm if rodgers was qb and this spread was 8-10, take away discount double bitch who is one of most important players in game and here we go im on the pack... dont get me wrong i think rodgers is great and all, if this was last yr i wouldnt probably feel the same way however pack this season have something they havnt had in some time and that is a tough physical run gm..

this oline doesnt pass protect for shit but they do open holes for lacy and starks and they will continue doing work this week.. honestly not sure they could have picked a better team for this game than the eagles and chip kelly who allow opponents the most time of possession in the league with his combination of hurry up offense and a defense that ranks 20th in the league getting off the field on 3rd down, i suspect pack can and will wear down this philly defense throughout the coarse of the day with a power run gm and enough play action to make wallace's life easy...wallace will look a lot better with a week of reps under his belt and mccarthy tailoring a game plan to fit his strengths, im aware of his record as a starter but my response to that is what has matt flynn turned out like?

far as philly goes last week drumming of oak didnt really change my opinion of Foles, impressive gm but im still not a buyer.. pack run d has been solid for the most part and still dont think shady is nearly as effective w/o the threat of vick who helps them create seams in the run gm that foles simply does not.. pack can force them to be 1 dimensional and i simply dont buy foles as the guy who gonna beat ya by himself standing back and chucking it..

bottom line is i expect to a man that the pack step up all over the field in this gm, punish philly with those big strong rbs and make enough plays on defense to beat a team that being deemed as road warriors for some reason, sure philly cant win at home, sure their road record is 4-1, think what being left out here is that the 4 wins philly has on the road consist of skins, nyg, oak, and tampa! not exactly a murderers row, and while sure they catching a break w rodgers being out i suspect they also getting ready to walk into the room of a wounded animal and get punched in the mouth... +105 for gb at home vs a team that gets overrated every time their offense shows up for a week? yea pack on a short week but philly played in oak last week now they back on road feeling themselves a little as favs against a team everyone is leaving for dead.. pack win this gm by being physical, controlling the clock, and wearing eagles down.. 26-21 pack..

panthers+6 (2x)...talk bout this team every week, have either posted thoughts on this gm here or elsewhere but it pretty simple to me. they giving me too many points with a team that plays very good d and has a very good rushing attack.. all i hear is panthers being discredited for beating bad teams but who has sf been beating? and sf been doing it by rushing the ball and physically pounding teams, they not gonna out physical the panthers.. i think this a slugfest, points will be at a premium so ill take the 6 with the qb i actually trust more as this gm gonna come down to which qb can make a few plays w/o making the mistakes..

stl/indy 1st half un 23 (2.5x)..really like this, colts desperately wanting to be a power rushing team and if ya gonna be that lambs d certainly the team to do it against. maybe they start to generate some rushing attack but that works out just fine for me here, i know lambs are looking to run so i suspect a rapid moving 1st half here...despite the show that TY and luck put on in the second half of hou gm they dearly miss wayne on 3rd downs, again cant be overstated how important he is when your OC wants to establish the rush as badly as pep cause you need that guy on 3rd down to extend drives and while i love TY's skill set he isnt in wayne's league in thiis department as of yet, dhb is a stone handed clown, simply put w/o wayne indy can still be effective and will nail ya with some big plays but they gonna be punting far more often... even when rams offense is effective they are a red zone nightmare to watch, i like rams to have ground success as well but again we talking about a lot of clock getting ate up when they move and not necessarily a lot of points coming out of it.. i would have played this at 20.5 so i think 23 presents some solid value. like the gm under as well but like last week feel like this the better option as 2nd half could start producing more big plays based off all the ground work both teams do early..

[2daBank]

Interesting what's going on w this Colts line. Now down to 7' @ Pinny and Bookmaker.

not real surprising to me.. i mean surely other ppl realize wayne is a big piece for indy, fisher a strong dog cause he loves to shorten gms and keep it close.. i just dont trust lambs enough, look how they lost by a td last week, played tough all gm then have the ball late tied and fumble it away to ensure they not only lose but dont cover a gm that should have been decided by a fg..

[ridims]

good luck today

[BiffTFinancial]

Tailing you on that 1H under. How do you like Rams as teaser material? BOL today Bank.

[2daBank]

Tailing you on that 1H under. How do you like Rams as teaser material? BOL today Bank.

you could prob tease that gm either way and come out good.. i actually thought number was high just dont trust these fukks enough to play them...

[2daBank]

det/chi un 52 (1x)..ok this little scary and all im doing is basically playing a number here so not much to explain.. this was 50 in det, yea it went over and we played it, this series is almost always higher scoring when they play in det for obvious reasons.. not saying expect this to be low scoring but i made it 47-51 so taking a shot..

[fecgp40]

det/chi un 52 (1x)..ok this little scary and all im doing is basically playing a number here so not much to explain.. this was 50 in det, yea it went over and we played it, this series is almost always higher scoring when they play in det for obvious reasons.. not saying expect this to be low scoring but i made it 47-51 so taking a shot..

Scary for sure. But it hits today.

[fecgp40]

Bank... I've seen two sharp cappers on over in SF/CAR. You like the under?

[killersweet]

good luck banker.

[2daBank]

Bank... I've seen two sharp cappers on over in SF/CAR. You like the under?

not really., i wouldnt play under. i think 44 bout right so if you got on early id agree with over, dont see much value where it sits now and was content playing panthers anyway.

[hugh4310]

Bank would really like your opinion on Cincinnati pk, I think Cincy get the W here by 7 any thoughts?

[Bet10Heinekens]

stl/indy 1st half un 23 (2.5x)..really like this, colts desperately wanting to be a power rushing team and if ya gonna be that lambs d certainly the team to do it against. maybe they start to generate some rushing attack but that works out just fine for me here, i know lambs are looking to run so i suspect a rapid moving 1st half here...despite the show that TY and luck put on in the second half of hou gm they dearly miss wayne on 3rd downs, again cant be overstated how important he is when your OC wants to establish the rush as badly as pep cause you need that guy on 3rd down to extend drives and while i love TY's skill set he isnt in wayne's league in thiis department as of yet, dhb is a stone handed clown, simply put w/o wayne indy can still be effective and will nail ya with some big plays but they gonna be punting far more often... even when rams offense is effective they are a red zone nightmare to watch, i like rams to have ground success as well but again we talking about a lot of clock getting ate up when they move and not necessarily a lot of points coming out of it.. i would have played this at 20.5 so i think 23 presents some solid value. like the gm under as well but like last week feel like this the better option as 2nd half could start producing more big plays based off all the ground work both teams do early..

tailed you on this play, I got it off a the key number 23 at 22.5, but I'm confident it still hits...BOL Banker

[2daBank]

Bank would really like your opinion on Cincinnati pk, I think Cincy get the W here by 7 any thoughts?

clearly Balty has me all fukked up so i pretty much stayed as far away from looking at that gm as possible..id luv to give you something meaningful but i dont understand that team anymore, id think atkins loss would be huge and balty would establish the run but they seem unwilling or incapable of that for some reason that is beyond me so i give up.. gm should go a long way in telling whether my cincy sb future is worth a damn cause they should come and announce it their div today but i still lean balty, again that prob a good thing if you like cincy..

[2daBank]

tailed you on this play, I got it off a the key number 23 at 22.5, but I'm confident it still hits...BOL Banker

i think we talking bout something like 10-7 if close, 14-6 if not...nowhere i put it did i come up with more than 20 so yea i dont think it matters much... gl to you as well bro.

[BiffTFinancial]

riding with you on Pack too, your write-up talked me into it. BOL today Bank.

[2daBank]

riding with you on Pack too, your write-up talked me into it. BOL today Bank.

well lets hope im right then!

[2daBank]

2 team 6 point teaser (1.5x)

bills+8.5
nyg-1.5

running out of time so getting less chatty as i go here.. bills play everyone tough, should be able ot pressure big dummy into some mistakes and i like their run gm in a windy pit...

maybe foolish to fade oak after the beating they took last week but nyg is lucky enough to play in the only div where they can be terrible and yet win superbowls..id imagine they continue the uptick with brown back at rb and a week off to watch philly destroy this pass d,, bout time nicks started acting like he wanted to get paid and this about the easiest team to do it against..

[suicidekings]

pack ml +105 (1.5x)

I'm having such a hard time pulling the trigger on the Packers today. Even with a heavy lean to the run game, Seneca Wallace is going to have to prove he can throw the ball or else Lacy/Starks are going to be running themselves into a loaded box all afternoon. If he doesn't make some completions early, it could be tough for them to sustain drives.

On the other side, I think it's virtually impossible for Foles to avoid a severe recoil this week after a career day last week, putting up a below average day. I think he's going to have a lot of trouble completing passes. The Packers pass rush is going to be ALL over him today.

So I'm not sure how to feel about it. I kind of lean to the Under more than a side.

[2daBank]

I'm having such a hard time pulling the trigger on the Packers today. Even with a heavy lean to the run game, Seneca Wallace is going to have to prove he can throw the ball or else Lacy/Starks are going to be running themselves into a loaded box all afternoon. If he doesn't make some completions early, it could be tough for them to sustain drives.

On the other side, I think it's virtually impossible for Foles to avoid a severe recoil this week after a career day last week, putting up a below average day. I think he's going to have a lot of trouble completing passes. The Packers pass rush is going to be ALL over him today.

So I'm not sure how to feel about it. I kind of lean to the Under more than a side.

i think mccarthy understands that as well as you and i and not like we talking about some scary good philly secondary, i have confidence he will draw up some things to make wallace effective enough early if philly comes in with the idea they wont get beat by the run gm..

[2daBank]

den/sd ov 57 (1x).. if you are interested in the thoughts on this one post 1150-1156 have pretty good discussion about it i think...but who we kidding it den, ill pay till they dont go over, lol..

[fecgp40]

den/sd ov 57 (1x).. if you are interested in the thoughts on this one post 1150-1156 have pretty good discussion about it i think...but who we kidding it den, ill pay till they dont go over, lol..

I'm with ya' bank.

[2daBank]

ok ya'll help me out with my fantasy team here.. my #2 rb been a disaster all yr, after i realized david wilson was a bum i used my wr depth to trade for ray rice (fukkin balty i swear i hate them).. anyways it either stick with rice or mike james?? i have james in but i know soon as i sit rice he finally gonna score, im in no position to lose gms so some1 tell me the right thing to do cause as im good at stacking depth on my team im horrible at deciding which player to go with any given week..

[fecgp40]

ok ya'll help me out with my fantasy team here.. my #2 rb been a disaster all yr, after i realized david wilson was a bum i used my wr depth to trade for ray rice (fukkin balty i swear i hate them).. anyways it either stick with rice or mike james?? i have james in but i know soon as i sit rice he finally gonna score, im in no position to lose gms so some1 tell me the right thing to do cause as im good at stacking depth on my team im horrible at deciding which player to go with any given week..

Being that I'm on Baltimore today I hope Rice does score, but I don't think he will. He seems to have lost a step. I would go with James against the Dolphins circus Monday night.

[Overbettor]

Bank I'm really considering Titans tt ov 27 as a big play today but these last cpl weeks haven't been kind to me. Do you see any reason why I should avoid this play? Johnson and Locker have big days im thinking (more like hoping)

[2daBank]

Being that I'm on Baltimore today I hope Rice does score, but I don't think he will. He seems to have lost a step. I would go with James against the Dolphins circus Monday night.

yea that way i have it..it is ppr but rice been useless in that aspect as well.. not sure if it him, the blocking, or the jackass playcaller, whatever it is balty has me so freaking confused. thought i was stealing when i traded djax for him after his injury, joke on me, lol..

[2daBank]

Bank I'm really considering Titans tt ov 27 as a big play today but these last cpl weeks haven't been kind to me. Do you see any reason why I should avoid this play? Johnson and Locker have big days im thinking (more like hoping)

the way stacy ran on ten last week kinda think mjd and him similar and he may have enough success to eat up a lot of time..that best argument i can make against. honestly i have pretty much stayed away from capping jags gms cause the way i am i know id be dumping money on them a lot so rather just not look..