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  • ApricotSinner32
    Restricted User
    • 11-28-10
    • 10648

    #246
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    • ApricotSinner32
      Restricted User
      • 11-28-10
      • 10648

      #247
      Got Grizzlies +3.5 +105 actually not +4 +100

      Risking 1 unit to win 1.05 units

      Would play it at +100 or better
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      • RogueScholar
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 02-05-07
        • 5082

        #248
        So much for beating the closer on the Griz, eh Pat? Very odd to see you make a play in the wee hours of the morning, over 10 hours before gametime...

        BTW, who was hanging +3.5 +105? Is there a book that's letting you sell half-points or is this another of your sneaky tricks using multiple $5 bets at BetIslands to get their software rounding to give you tickets without any juice?
        Originally posted by StraitShooter
        90% of the guys dont give a shit about your problems..and the other 10 are glad you have them..
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        • Deuce
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 01-12-08
          • 29843

          #249
          Sneaky

          They informed me of this without me asking. As well as it working IN THEIR FAVOR ON -110 LINES BECAUSE IT MAKES THE LINE -120 at $5 units.

          For the 12th time btw.
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          • ZetaPsi808
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 09-18-08
            • 12119

            #250
            grizz up 10 at half here. got half unit on spread +4.5 and half unit on moneyline +165. lets fuking go
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            • Chi_archie
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 07-22-08
              • 63172

              #251
              let's go Memphis!
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              • ApricotSinner32
                Restricted User
                • 11-28-10
                • 10648

                #252
                Clippers 2h -3 +115

                Risking 1 unit to win 1.15 units
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                • ZetaPsi808
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 09-18-08
                  • 12119

                  #253
                  Originally posted by ZetaPsi808
                  grizz up 10 at half here. got half unit on spread +4.5 and half unit on moneyline +165. lets fuking go

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                  • ApricotSinner32
                    Restricted User
                    • 11-28-10
                    • 10648

                    #254
                    16-18 +8.35 units
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                    • ApricotSinner32
                      Restricted User
                      • 11-28-10
                      • 10648

                      #255
                      Wellington/Adelade over 2.5 +105

                      Risking 1 unit to win 1.05 units
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                      • TheLock
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 04-06-08
                        • 14427

                        #256
                        One time common
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                        • RogueScholar
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 02-05-07
                          • 5082

                          #257
                          Originally posted by Deuce
                          Sneaky

                          They informed me of this without me asking. As well as it working IN THEIR FAVOR ON -110 LINES BECAUSE IT MAKES THE LINE -120 at $5 units.

                          For the 12th time btw.
                          Haha, you're right about me trying to explain it to you 12 times, but it's you who's still failing to grasp what makes it deceitful.

                          What Patty was bragging about in chat was getting BI to lower his minimum to $5 so he could shop for bets where a $5 stake would get rounded in his favor, and then making a bunch of $5 bets on a single outcome in order to multiply the rounding error even further in his favor.

                          I agree that over large samples, the rounding error will tend to be a non-factor for the average player. What makes this case different is that Patty requested a lower minimum bet to artificially increase the amount of situations where he could take advantage of the rounding error. This isn't the case of a guy wanting to bet pennies for entertainment with a tiny roll, rather, Patty took a bonus from them and now wants to get a further advantage over the house by carefully making plays where the software isn't charging the listed vig for the play.

                          An honest player would pay the listed odds for the exposure he desires in the market, making one bet at one price and letting the rounding mind itself. This is entirely different, and I think you know it. If a sportsbook were to do to a player what Patty is doing here, we'd all cry foul. Your instance of -110 becoming -120 on a $5 stake rounded to whole dollars is a perfect example. What if a book forced you to break up your bets into $5 per ticket and charged you -120 when their odds page listed -110, hoping you wouldn't notice the rounding always cutting in their favor? That'd be deplorable, and we'd all decry their abuse of players for as long as they were in business.

                          I wouldn't have even taken a side in this petty and moot (I'm told Patty already busted out on the bankroll in question) disagreement if Pat hadn't taken it to the point of negotiating a lower minimum stake with them. Obviously they set $10 as the standard minimum in concert with their software limitations, knowing that the rounding could be exploited in precisely this way. Do you really think Pat was forthcoming to the customer service rep that he wanted a lower minimum to make multiple $5 bets on the same outcome only when the software would round the payout in his favor? Of course not, and that's why it's fundamentally dishonest.

                          All I'm saying is that as a responsible and honest gambler (I fully realize that's a super-slim minority on SBR), it should be a given that you're willing to pay whatever vig is listed by your bookie in consideration for them paying out any winnings you're able to generate against their lines. If you're gonna try and cheat the software in order to gain an edge against them, then you should be prepared for them to play similar games with any cashouts you might request.
                          Originally posted by StraitShooter
                          90% of the guys dont give a shit about your problems..and the other 10 are glad you have them..
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                          • RogueScholar
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 02-05-07
                            • 5082

                            #258
                            Double post
                            Originally posted by StraitShooter
                            90% of the guys dont give a shit about your problems..and the other 10 are glad you have them..
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                            • ApricotSinner32
                              Restricted User
                              • 11-28-10
                              • 10648

                              #259
                              Nurnberg/Dortmund draw +450 live

                              Risking 1 unit to win 4.50 units
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                              • ApricotSinner32
                                Restricted User
                                • 11-28-10
                                • 10648

                                #260
                                17-19 +8.40 units
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                                • Sunde91
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 11-26-09
                                  • 8325

                                  #261
                                  every US book I know offers German Soccer live betting
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                                  • ZetaPsi808
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 09-18-08
                                    • 12119

                                    #262
                                    Originally posted by Sunde91
                                    every US book I know offers German Soccer live betting
                                    whats ur point guy
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                                    • Sunde91
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 11-26-09
                                      • 8325

                                      #263
                                      zeta go back to school you fuk god are you dense there isnt a single US book that offers live betting on a totally obscure German Soccer game

                                      only thing is 5Dimes that offers 2nd half that counts for full game, still not "live". Patty didnt know you were a German soccer sharp let those darts fly
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                                      • Deuce
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 01-12-08
                                        • 29843

                                        #264
                                        Originally posted by Sunde91
                                        zeta go back to school you fuk god are you dense there isnt a single US book that offers live betting on a totally obscure German Soccer game

                                        only thing is 5Dimes that offers 2nd half that counts for full game, still not "live". Patty didnt know you were a German soccer sharp let those darts fly
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                                        • Sunde91
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 11-26-09
                                          • 8325

                                          #265
                                          patty 100 points for a screen shot of your live bet on that game

                                          dooze your stalking seems like an invitation for me to bury your fat ass on a more regular basis
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                                          • ZetaPsi808
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 09-18-08
                                            • 12119

                                            #266
                                            deuce

                                            u buried this fuk.

                                            sunde91

                                            settle the fuk down. dont ever talk to a guy like me like that again son
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                                            • jjgold
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 07-20-05
                                              • 388179

                                              #267
                                              Originally posted by ApricotSinner32
                                              17-19 +8.40 units
                                              He is hanging around and still winning

                                              Mods watch Patty closely

                                              he is from NY originally
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                                              • RogueScholar
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 02-05-07
                                                • 5082

                                                #268
                                                Come on JJ, where's the accountability?

                                                What good is a tracking thread if the handicapper won't state where the lines come from? Now that he's including in-running bets here, it's become even more of a charade. This short run of success could be entirely contrived, there's no way to audit it and thus make it legitimate.

                                                So far all we've got are some sycophants from the second iteration of the YGG cheering him on while he purposely avoids answering any inquiries aimed at learning the real story here.

                                                P.S. Didn't we used to have a jerkoff smiley here? What happened to it?
                                                Originally posted by StraitShooter
                                                90% of the guys dont give a shit about your problems..and the other 10 are glad you have them..
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                                                • ApricotSinner32
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 11-28-10
                                                  • 10648

                                                  #269
                                                  Denver moneyline 2h +135

                                                  Risking 1 unit to win 1.35 units
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                                                  • Ace_of_Spades
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 10-14-09
                                                    • 13518

                                                    #270
                                                    Originally posted by RogueScholar
                                                    Come on JJ, where's the accountability?

                                                    What good is a tracking thread if the handicapper won't state where the lines come from? Now that he's including in-running bets here, it's become even more of a charade. This short run of success could be entirely contrived, there's no way to audit it and thus make it legitimate.

                                                    So far all we've got are some sycophants from the second iteration of the YGG cheering him on while he purposely avoids answering any inquiries aimed at learning the real story here.

                                                    P.S. Didn't we used to have a jerkoff smiley here? What happened to it?
                                                    LMAO, sounds like when AS was all over Bbr's Tennis thread
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                                                    • ApricotSinner32
                                                      Restricted User
                                                      • 11-28-10
                                                      • 10648

                                                      #271
                                                      Chelsea 3 way +172

                                                      Risking 1 unit to win 1.72 units

                                                      17-20 +7.4 units
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                                                      • spankie
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 02-10-11
                                                        • 9992

                                                        #272
                                                        patty a 3 way???? isnt that a threesome?

                                                        what kind of bet is this??
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                                                        • CanuckG
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 12-23-10
                                                          • 21978

                                                          #273
                                                          Originally posted by RogueScholar
                                                          Come on JJ, where's the accountability?

                                                          What good is a tracking thread if the handicapper won't state where the lines come from? Now that he's including in-running bets here, it's become even more of a charade. This short run of success could be entirely contrived, there's no way to audit it and thus make it legitimate.

                                                          So far all we've got are some sycophants from the second iteration of the YGG cheering him on while he purposely avoids answering any inquiries aimed at learning the real story here.

                                                          P.S. Didn't we used to have a jerkoff smiley here? What happened to it?
                                                          Man all you homos are the same so fukkin whiny who gives a fukk where the lines are from it's up to him if he'll post it just tail and win money you rooster sukkin son of a bitch.

                                                          P.S. I'm drunk
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                                                          • Allure
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 08-18-10
                                                            • 7606

                                                            #274
                                                            Originally posted by spankie
                                                            patty a 3 way???? isnt that a threesome?

                                                            what kind of bet is this??
                                                            Win in regulation. If the game ends up tied, he loses.
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                                                            • ApricotSinner32
                                                              Restricted User
                                                              • 11-28-10
                                                              • 10648

                                                              #275
                                                              Patriots -10.5 +306

                                                              Risking 1 unit to win 3.06 units
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                                                              • ApricotSinner32
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 11-28-10
                                                                • 10648

                                                                #276
                                                                Chad Ocho Cinco to win the mvp +3500

                                                                Risking 1 unit to win 35 units
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                                                                • King Mayan
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 09-22-10
                                                                  • 21326

                                                                  #277
                                                                  You got some balls, patty..
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                                                                  • jjgold
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                                    • 388179

                                                                    #278
                                                                    We are watching him, if he tries one thing we will catch him
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                                                                    • spankie
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 02-10-11
                                                                      • 9992

                                                                      #279
                                                                      Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                      We are watching him, if he tries one thing we will catch him
                                                                      who is the guy in your avatar???
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                                                                      • rm18
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 09-20-05
                                                                        • 22291

                                                                        #280
                                                                        Ocho is +8350 at 5dimes
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