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ApricotSinner32Restricted User
- 11-28-10
- 10648
#246Comment -
ApricotSinner32Restricted User
- 11-28-10
- 10648
#247Got Grizzlies +3.5 +105 actually not +4 +100
Risking 1 unit to win 1.05 units
Would play it at +100 or betterComment -
RogueScholarSBR Hall of Famer
- 02-05-07
- 5082
#248So much for beating the closer on the Griz, eh Pat? Very odd to see you make a play in the wee hours of the morning, over 10 hours before gametime...
BTW, who was hanging +3.5 +105? Is there a book that's letting you sell half-points or is this another of your sneaky tricks using multiple $5 bets at BetIslands to get their software rounding to give you tickets without any juice?Originally posted by StraitShooter90% of the guys dont give a shit about your problems..and the other 10 are glad you have them..Comment -
DeuceBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 01-12-08
- 29843
#249Sneaky
They informed me of this without me asking. As well as it working IN THEIR FAVOR ON -110 LINES BECAUSE IT MAKES THE LINE -120 at $5 units.
For the 12th time btw.Comment -
ZetaPsi808SBR Posting Legend
- 09-18-08
- 12119
#250grizz up 10 at half here. got half unit on spread +4.5 and half unit on moneyline +165. lets fuking goComment -
Chi_archieSBR Aristocracy
- 07-22-08
- 63172
#251let's go Memphis!Comment -
ApricotSinner32Restricted User
- 11-28-10
- 10648
#252Clippers 2h -3 +115
Risking 1 unit to win 1.15 unitsComment -
ApricotSinner32Restricted User
- 11-28-10
- 10648
#25416-18 +8.35 unitsComment -
ApricotSinner32Restricted User
- 11-28-10
- 10648
#255Wellington/Adelade over 2.5 +105
Risking 1 unit to win 1.05 unitsComment -
TheLockSBR Posting Legend
- 04-06-08
- 14427
#256One time commonComment -
RogueScholarSBR Hall of Famer
- 02-05-07
- 5082
#257
What Patty was bragging about in chat was getting BI to lower his minimum to $5 so he could shop for bets where a $5 stake would get rounded in his favor, and then making a bunch of $5 bets on a single outcome in order to multiply the rounding error even further in his favor.
I agree that over large samples, the rounding error will tend to be a non-factor for the average player. What makes this case different is that Patty requested a lower minimum bet to artificially increase the amount of situations where he could take advantage of the rounding error. This isn't the case of a guy wanting to bet pennies for entertainment with a tiny roll, rather, Patty took a bonus from them and now wants to get a further advantage over the house by carefully making plays where the software isn't charging the listed vig for the play.
An honest player would pay the listed odds for the exposure he desires in the market, making one bet at one price and letting the rounding mind itself. This is entirely different, and I think you know it. If a sportsbook were to do to a player what Patty is doing here, we'd all cry foul. Your instance of -110 becoming -120 on a $5 stake rounded to whole dollars is a perfect example. What if a book forced you to break up your bets into $5 per ticket and charged you -120 when their odds page listed -110, hoping you wouldn't notice the rounding always cutting in their favor? That'd be deplorable, and we'd all decry their abuse of players for as long as they were in business.
I wouldn't have even taken a side in this petty and moot (I'm told Patty already busted out on the bankroll in question) disagreement if Pat hadn't taken it to the point of negotiating a lower minimum stake with them. Obviously they set $10 as the standard minimum in concert with their software limitations, knowing that the rounding could be exploited in precisely this way. Do you really think Pat was forthcoming to the customer service rep that he wanted a lower minimum to make multiple $5 bets on the same outcome only when the software would round the payout in his favor? Of course not, and that's why it's fundamentally dishonest.
All I'm saying is that as a responsible and honest gambler (I fully realize that's a super-slim minority on SBR), it should be a given that you're willing to pay whatever vig is listed by your bookie in consideration for them paying out any winnings you're able to generate against their lines. If you're gonna try and cheat the software in order to gain an edge against them, then you should be prepared for them to play similar games with any cashouts you might request.Originally posted by StraitShooter90% of the guys dont give a shit about your problems..and the other 10 are glad you have them..Comment -
RogueScholarSBR Hall of Famer
- 02-05-07
- 5082
#258Double postOriginally posted by StraitShooter90% of the guys dont give a shit about your problems..and the other 10 are glad you have them..Comment -
ApricotSinner32Restricted User
- 11-28-10
- 10648
#259Nurnberg/Dortmund draw +450 live
Risking 1 unit to win 4.50 unitsComment -
ApricotSinner32Restricted User
- 11-28-10
- 10648
#26017-19 +8.40 unitsComment -
Sunde91SBR Hall of Famer
- 11-26-09
- 8325
#261every US book I know offers German Soccer live bettingComment -
Sunde91SBR Hall of Famer
- 11-26-09
- 8325
#263zeta go back to school you fuk god are you dense there isnt a single US book that offers live betting on a totally obscure German Soccer game
only thing is 5Dimes that offers 2nd half that counts for full game, still not "live". Patty didnt know you were a German soccer sharp let those darts flyComment -
DeuceBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 01-12-08
- 29843
#264zeta go back to school you fuk god are you dense there isnt a single US book that offers live betting on a totally obscure German Soccer game
only thing is 5Dimes that offers 2nd half that counts for full game, still not "live". Patty didnt know you were a German soccer sharp let those darts flyComment -
Sunde91SBR Hall of Famer
- 11-26-09
- 8325
#265patty 100 points for a screen shot of your live bet on that game
dooze your stalking seems like an invitation for me to bury your fat ass on a more regular basisComment -
ZetaPsi808SBR Posting Legend
- 09-18-08
- 12119
#266deuce
u buried this fuk.
sunde91
settle the fuk down. dont ever talk to a guy like me like that again sonComment -
RogueScholarSBR Hall of Famer
- 02-05-07
- 5082
#268Come on JJ, where's the accountability?
What good is a tracking thread if the handicapper won't state where the lines come from? Now that he's including in-running bets here, it's become even more of a charade. This short run of success could be entirely contrived, there's no way to audit it and thus make it legitimate.
So far all we've got are some sycophants from the second iteration of the YGG cheering him on while he purposely avoids answering any inquiries aimed at learning the real story here.
P.S. Didn't we used to have a jerkoff smiley here? What happened to it?Originally posted by StraitShooter90% of the guys dont give a shit about your problems..and the other 10 are glad you have them..Comment -
ApricotSinner32Restricted User
- 11-28-10
- 10648
#269Denver moneyline 2h +135
Risking 1 unit to win 1.35 unitsComment -
Ace_of_SpadesSBR Posting Legend
- 10-14-09
- 13518
#270Come on JJ, where's the accountability?
What good is a tracking thread if the handicapper won't state where the lines come from? Now that he's including in-running bets here, it's become even more of a charade. This short run of success could be entirely contrived, there's no way to audit it and thus make it legitimate.
So far all we've got are some sycophants from the second iteration of the YGG cheering him on while he purposely avoids answering any inquiries aimed at learning the real story here.
P.S. Didn't we used to have a jerkoff smiley here? What happened to it?Comment -
ApricotSinner32Restricted User
- 11-28-10
- 10648
#271Chelsea 3 way +172
Risking 1 unit to win 1.72 units
17-20 +7.4 unitsComment -
spankieSBR Hall of Famer
- 02-10-11
- 9992
#272patty a 3 way???? isnt that a threesome?
what kind of bet is this??Comment -
CanuckGSBR Posting Legend
- 12-23-10
- 21978
#273Come on JJ, where's the accountability?
What good is a tracking thread if the handicapper won't state where the lines come from? Now that he's including in-running bets here, it's become even more of a charade. This short run of success could be entirely contrived, there's no way to audit it and thus make it legitimate.
So far all we've got are some sycophants from the second iteration of the YGG cheering him on while he purposely avoids answering any inquiries aimed at learning the real story here.
P.S. Didn't we used to have a jerkoff smiley here? What happened to it?
P.S. I'm drunkComment -
ApricotSinner32Restricted User
- 11-28-10
- 10648
#275Patriots -10.5 +306
Risking 1 unit to win 3.06 unitsComment -
ApricotSinner32Restricted User
- 11-28-10
- 10648
#276Chad Ocho Cinco to win the mvp +3500
Risking 1 unit to win 35 unitsComment -
King MayanSBR Posting Legend
- 09-22-10
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#277You got some balls, patty..Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
- 07-20-05
- 388179
#278We are watching him, if he tries one thing we will catch himComment -
rm18SBR Posting Legend
- 09-20-05
- 22291
#280Ocho is +8350 at 5dimesComment
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