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  • chief42
    SBR Sharp
    • 01-06-10
    • 315

    #806
    Originally posted by johno35
    Just saw the score for Oklahoma State,WTF? Game over in first 15 mins!
    Logically speaking that is impossible! Wait until it actually ends to declare any statement like that.
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    • johno35
      SBR MVP
      • 10-19-11
      • 1123

      #807
      Originally posted by chief42
      Logically speaking that is impossible! Wait until it actually ends to declare any statement like that.
      Fair call, was just in shock! Do you think they can claw back 13 points in second half. The 2nd half line is only -1.5
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      • chief42
        SBR Sharp
        • 01-06-10
        • 315

        #808
        Originally posted by johno35
        Fair call, was just in shock! Do you think they can claw back 13 points in second half. The 2nd half line is only -1.5
        Well if you go by what John has for this play, then +23.5 would look to be a good play. In my own personal opinion, I would lay off this one, it can really hard to tell when college players come to play. They don't have the same motivation as pro players do on a consistent basis.
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        • eastern2
          SBR Sharp
          • 02-24-12
          • 448

          #809
          Any more plays for the late night games, John?
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          • labones00
            SBR MVP
            • 02-20-12
            • 1555

            #810
            Excuse me for butting in but how can you say that college kids don't come to play compared to the Pro's...have you ever watched a regular season NBA game!?
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            • chief42
              SBR Sharp
              • 01-06-10
              • 315

              #811
              Originally posted by labones00
              Excuse me for butting in but how can you say that college kids don't come to play compared to the Pro's...have you ever watched a regular season NBA game!?
              Of course I have, it can definitely seem that way at times. I can't really argue that, but a professional compared to an amateur should be at the top of their game when you put in the factors that separate a professional from an amateur. If you have ever played sports on any sort of level you should have an idea of what I mean.
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              • labones00
                SBR MVP
                • 02-20-12
                • 1555

                #812
                I played sports all thru HS and College
                I'm just saying I don't agree with that statement. Just because a team doesn't cover in a game you bet on doesn't mean they tanked it lol
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                • chief42
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 01-06-10
                  • 315

                  #813
                  Originally posted by labones00
                  I played sports all thru HS and College
                  I'm just saying I don't agree with that statement. Just because a team doesn't cover in a game you bet on doesn't mean they tanked it lol
                  Never said they tanked it, just saying that they may have not given their full effort. I played sports in college and high school as well and have seen it happen on plenty of occasions. There is a difference between tanking it and giving it your full effort. You can certainly lose a game badly and still give your full effort. You can also tank it and lose a game badly as well. I think you will see the lack of effort occur more often from an amateur as opposed to a professional is all i am trying to say.
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                  • Looking4Winners
                    SBR MVP
                    • 12-21-11
                    • 1198

                    #814
                    Nice job John with your last 16 plays going 7-4 in 5* plays and 3-2 with 10*.

                    Update: 87-95 on 5* plays, 21-8 on 10* plays and 4-2 on 20* plays.
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                    • labones00
                      SBR MVP
                      • 02-20-12
                      • 1555

                      #815
                      Chief, I hear where you are coming from
                      So changing gears here I'm curious to know how experts cap games...what it's based on? What factors go into it?
                      Head to head, win/loss streak, coach, refs ,points per game etc?
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                      • chief42
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 01-06-10
                        • 315

                        #816
                        Originally posted by labones00
                        Chief, I hear where you are coming from
                        So changing gears here I'm curious to know how experts cap games...what it's based on? What factors go into it?
                        Head to head, win/loss streak, coach, refs ,points per game etc?
                        I wish I knew how to cap them. I can tell you that quantitative and qualitative analysis goes into it. For John, he uses the simulator along with those specific trends that he often uses to add to his reasoning for the pick. You should also check out LTA thread, he is a successful handicapper as well and can give you more concrete information on how he comes up with his plays. Refs, stats, situational factors are just some of the methods he uses to cap his games. One thing I do know is that all of these good handicappers have some sort of formula that they use in conjunction with these stats etc., to come up with their number for the game to compare to what vegas is offering. When they find a number that is off or offers value that is when they will typically jump on a game. How they come up with these formulas is their secret to success. Hope this helps you some.
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                        • 5mike5
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 09-21-11
                          • 52010

                          #817
                          anything for the early games today John?
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                          • JimmyG_415
                            SBR Hustler
                            • 02-19-12
                            • 83

                            #818
                            Originally posted by Looking4Winners
                            Nice job John with your last 16 plays going 7-4 in 5* plays and 3-2 with 10*.

                            Update: 87-95 on 5* plays, 21-8 on 10* plays and 4-2 on 20* plays.
                            So has that been to lure us all in, now he is going to start charging?
                            J/K (hopefully)
                            Seriously, Great work John, love the write ups as much as the games, (almost I do like $$$)
                            not sure how I found this site, but has definitely been a good 2-3 weeks.

                            The other 2 free picks this AM hit (from other handicappers), UMASS and UNC, so if anyone is fiending until John comes back.
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                            • eastern2
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 02-24-12
                              • 448

                              #819
                              looks like JR is on the Cuse
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                              • ctmsnow32
                                SBR Rookie
                                • 02-24-12
                                • 5

                                #820
                                Does any one have the link to where I can read his thoughts and picks
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                                • hockeydude758
                                  SBR Rookie
                                  • 02-19-12
                                  • 11

                                  #821
                                  Originally posted by ctmsnow32
                                  Does any one have the link to where I can read his thoughts and picks
                                  John Ryan
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                                  • Inkwell77
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 02-03-11
                                    • 3227

                                    #822


                                    Good stuff. If you use the 5* as a 1 unit play, 10* as a 2 unit play, and 20* as a 4 unit play, you are up 14.1 units at -110 lines over the course of 217 plays. NICE!
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                                    • ctmsnow32
                                      SBR Rookie
                                      • 02-24-12
                                      • 5

                                      #823
                                      And he announces what * it is on this forum as well as that page...?
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                                      • ctmsnow32
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 02-24-12
                                        • 5

                                        #824
                                        Thanks for the help guys... Got it figured out
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                                        • Jermusom
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 02-19-12
                                          • 368

                                          #825
                                          cuse moved to -8... Surely possibly, but cinci has a way of keeping games close... To many points to lay to go with the public in my opinion... John, I'm a big fan of your stuff tho... Tailing on your louisville play... BOL fellas
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                                          • my6sen
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 09-27-10
                                            • 285

                                            #826
                                            He say 20* on texas and 5* on louisville on the front page buy not in here yet
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                                            • John Ryan
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 11-20-10
                                              • 2428

                                              #827
                                              ok.. lots of plays for tonight: I'll provide the recap here and you can find the research on the site. I will have the record updated tomorrow after these games are completed. I will be on-line to check in later tonight as well.

                                              10* Syracuse -7 1/2 -110
                                              5* Louisville -3 -110
                                              5* Baylor +7 -110
                                              20* Texas +6 1/2 -110
                                              5* Colorado -6 -110
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                                              • John Ryan
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 11-20-10
                                                • 2428

                                                #828
                                                That is discipline adn way to go for yourself!!!!
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                                                • John Ryan
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 11-20-10
                                                  • 2428

                                                  #829
                                                  All of the above and more.. I believe my research reports outline all of the major factors for each game..
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                                                  • John Ryan
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 11-20-10
                                                    • 2428

                                                    #830
                                                    That was a bad one indeed... But i hope everyone did get down on the Texas 20* game last night...

                                                    first time in a long time I have had back-to-back 20* plays on the same team.
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                                                    • BING23
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 11-28-10
                                                      • 134

                                                      #831
                                                      where did you post that 20* play on texas?
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                                                      • chief42
                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                        • 01-06-10
                                                        • 315

                                                        #832
                                                        5* graded
                                                        NCAA Basketball pick
                                                        on the Texas Longhorns as they take Iowa State in the quarterfinals for the Big-12 Conference Tournament set to start at 9:30 PM ET....It was not a 20* at all this is your quote from the your website stating that it was a 5*

                                                        Here is the link for you all in case you want to see it:
                                                        http://www.sbrforum.com/ncaa-basketb...-pick-a-23704/
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                                                        • my6sen
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 09-27-10
                                                          • 285

                                                          #833
                                                          And colorado + 6 not -6
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                                                          • hockeydude758
                                                            SBR Rookie
                                                            • 02-19-12
                                                            • 11

                                                            #834
                                                            Originally posted by chief42
                                                            5* graded
                                                            NCAA Basketball pick
                                                            on the Texas Longhorns as they take Iowa State in the quarterfinals for the Big-12 Conference Tournament set to start at 9:30 PM ET....It was not a 20* at all this is your quote from the your website stating that it was a 5*
                                                            Yeah JR are you drunk? And is it Colorado -6 or +6 I love ya though no homo
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                                                            • johno35
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 10-19-11
                                                              • 1123

                                                              #835
                                                              Originally posted by John Ryan
                                                              ok.. lots of plays for tonight: I'll provide the recap here and you can find the research on the site. I will have the record updated tomorrow after these games are completed. I will be on-line to check in later tonight as well.

                                                              10* Syracuse -7 1/2 -110
                                                              5* Louisville -3 -110
                                                              5* Baylor +7 -110
                                                              20* Texas +6 1/2 -110
                                                              5* Colorado -6 -110
                                                              Hey John, sorry to be picky but is that Colorado +6 playing Cal?
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                                                              • chief42
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 01-06-10
                                                                • 315

                                                                #836
                                                                It definitely is Colorado +6, there is no other Colorado team playing except Colorado St. +2. It is just a typo on his part. I don't think he is a big fan of spell check, even though this error did not require that.
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                                                                • Jermusom
                                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                                  • 02-19-12
                                                                  • 368

                                                                  #837
                                                                  California is 5* Titan play... Not Colorado....
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                                                                  • chief42
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 01-06-10
                                                                    • 315

                                                                    #838
                                                                    jeez John what is going on today.....First you have Colorado +6 here and now you have California -6 on your site...What is going on over there?!
                                                                    Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.
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                                                                    • JJJ
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 05-03-11
                                                                      • 2610

                                                                      #839
                                                                      20 star on texas yesteday WTF must have missed that one
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                                                                      • BHawksforLife
                                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                                        • 12-17-11
                                                                        • 25

                                                                        #840
                                                                        Ya, there is some serious confusion with John's posts and the articles on the site.
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