College Hoops 2011-12

[BiffTFinancial]

Upgrading Kansas/UNC 1H under with another unit at -108. Now:

3* Kansas/UNC 1H under 67' (-106)

want to play KU but passing. BOL to all today.

[pacocn]

Biff, you are on fire, keep it up

[Madison]

Took Wash NBA +10.5 vs C's on the long roadtrip coming home vs inferior oponent angle but line moved from 10.5 to 9. ??? FWIW

[BiffTFinancial]

3* KU/UNC 1H under 67' (-106) - LOSER

that sucked. never had a chance. really liked that play too, shows you what i know. tempted to take KU 2H but may sit it out and accept my 0-1 day. bah.

[BiffTFinancial]

Took Wash NBA +10.5 vs C's on the long roadtrip coming home vs inferior oponent angle but line moved from 10.5 to 9. ??? FWIW

BOL, Madison, hope it hits.

[No coincidences]

You know plenty Biff. You and I will always butt heads over this, but I truly believe sides are much less volatile with much less unpredictability than totals. I think they should be reduced from everyone's arsenal -- if not chucked altogether.

Are you telling me the books could even see this coming? Total dropped 2 or even 3 points before tip with 60+% of the public on the over after hammering the Kentucky/Baylor over.

[Rick22]

That my friend was a spanking.....................

[BiffTFinancial]

You know plenty Biff. You and I will always butt heads over this, but I truly believe sides are much less volatile with much less unpredictability than totals. I think they should be reduced from everyone's arsenal -- if not chucked altogether.

Are you telling me the books could even see this coming? Total dropped 2 or even 3 points before tip with 60+% of the public on the over after hammering the Kentucky/Baylor over.

eh, we can agree to disagree on this. totals have treated me well, i'm not going to overreact to one play. if you just played unders in the NCAA Tourney, or overs in the lesser tourneys, you'd be up so far, so i'm not sure about that.

if the books and/or smart money saw this coming, wouldn't the total have gone up?

[BiffTFinancial]

That my friend was a spanking.....................

and how. oh well. i was due for a spanking after the last two days. just going to enjoy watching the 2H and root for KU since i have them big in a picks pool.

[No coincidences]

eh, we can agree to disagree on this. totals have treated me well, i'm not going to overreact to one play. if you just played unders in the NCAA Tourney, or overs in the lesser tourneys, you'd be up so far, so i'm not sure about that.

if the books and/or smart money saw this coming, wouldn't the total have gone up?

That's my point (I just worded in poorly). They didn't, and neither did sharp money. How do you guard against a game like this? Or more importantly, how do you cap it? Or like the Ohio State game yesterday? Or the Kentucky game today?

[2daBank]

and how. oh well. i was due for a spanking after the last two days. just going to enjoy watching the 2H and root for KU since i have them big in a picks pool.

lol..i need unc to win this, obviously didnt know Marshall would be gone, then osu beating unc only to lose to uk in final..

dont worry bout NC he allergic to totals...you know what you doing with them brother, cant win them all but i know you hit more than not, actually know several cats that crush totals..just look at how fast they fluctuate during season off opener, obviously one of the better bets if you know what you doing..

[2daBank]

my boy NC sees a total go the wrong way and he is convinced they are the devil...

[Rick22]

my boy NC sees a total go the wrong way and he is convinced they are the devil...

[No coincidences]

my boy NC sees a total go the wrong way and he is convinced they are the devil...

"A total"? Look at yesterday's Ohio State game, today's Baylor game, or this Kansas game. You're better off tossing darts.

[2daBank]

"A total"? Look at yesterday's Ohio State game, today's Baylor game, or this Kansas game. You're better off tossing darts.

you always tell me this but me and Biff talk with guys that shred col hoops totals all season (Biff no slouch himself, it all numbers bro..in the end if yo do it right it will work out)...id imagine it not as easy in the tourney (especially this late, certainly dont see the huge fluctuation as books have more time to focus on limited gms)...Baylor/uk was a screw job but it happens, doesnt mean you are throwing darts, if you doing it right you playing percentages that will work in your favor long term..

no need continuing this in Biffs thread as we have been round and round on hoops totals to mlb totals, we just have to agree to disagree... not like wagers on sides dont turn to str8 shit when you play correct side, it happens, just trust your numbers and stay the coarse, if there wernt bad beats or unexpected outcomes none of us would have to work..

[BiffTFinancial]

"A total"? Look at yesterday's Ohio State game, today's Baylor game, or this Kansas game. You're better off tossing darts.

the 2H over in OSU/Cuse was an obvious play and an easy winner. same with Ohio/UNC and NCSU/KU unders Friday (UNC total won even though it went to OT, which never would've been anticipated in that game). same with Mercer/Fairfield under on the weekend, i was 3-1 on totals, this was the one loser. we can agree to disagree on this point - i have no interest in proselytizing for totals and changing your mind. if you don't like playing them, cool by me, but the KU/UNC 1H hardly convinced me that playing totals is crap shoot. in my mind, reducing your potential plays on a given game by 50% by removing totals is not sound logic. in fact, given how reliable unders have been in the NCAA tourney and how reliable overs have been in the lesser tourneys, i think it's a bad move, but to each his own, NC.

[BiffTFinancial]

3* Kansas/UNC 1H under 67' (-106) - LOSER

0-1 -3.18u Sunday.

20-14-1 +12.53u on NCAA Tournament to date.

[BiffTFinancial]

i will concede one point - perhaps playing totals this late in the season in the Elite Eight is not the best idea. that said, remember the Final Four last season. if all you did was play unders, 1H and game, in that cavernous venue in Houston with the brand new rims, you'd have been golden.

and as to point of how to guard against it, i did comment in Roaddog's thread that KU/UNC 1H total at 67' when game was 143 seemed fishy and too good to be true, which is why i initially played 2* instead of 3*. then, once Marshall officially ruled out, i got greedy. bottomline: the books did give me a sign, and i ran right through it. that was my mistake. live and learn. agree with 2dabank that best to agree to disagree here and move on. i'd much rather sit here discussing totals but work Monday calls, bah.

[HoulihansTX]

Only bet today in college is UN132.5 in the Wash St game. I expect the line to plummet due to this news.

[BiffTFinancial]

Only bet today in college is UN132.5 in the Wash St game. I expect the line to plummet due to this news.

i will admit that i saw the news and was thinking the same thing. was already leaning under after capping the game and seeing Wazzu's recent scores. thank for heads up, Houli.

[BiffTFinancial]

Monday 3.26.2012
2* Pittsburgh/Washington State 1H under 61' (-105)

[Madison]

BOL, Madison, hope it hits.

Well lost by 12 getting 10.5 but they did just about everything they could to blow it. Problem was I didn't know that Nene was not playing. Late decision I believe.

[BiffTFinancial]

Well lost by 12 getting 10.5 but they did just about everything they could to blow it. Problem was I didn't know that Nene was not playing. Late decision I believe.

that sucks. still, sounds as if your fade Celts theory has validity.

[BiffTFinancial]

Monday 3.26.2012
2* Pittsburgh/Washington State 1H under 61' (-105) - LOSER

5-8 -6.31u on NIT/CBI/CIT.

only 51 possessions 1H, but 73 points. that offensive efficiency of 1.43, unreal for these two teams (esp Wazzu missing top 2 scorers). 12-20 3PTs in 1H. moral of the story: don't play unders in the lesser tournaments. bah.

[BiffTFinancial]

leans for Tuesday

UMass +2'
UMass/Stanford over 149'
Minnesota +1
Minnesota/UW over 143'

[HoulihansTX]

That sucked yesterday...

Well UMass, and Big play on Wash for myself. I love how Minnesota has improved n the abscence of Ralph "Charmin" Sampson. I was saying this last year. Guy blows, and has no game. Addition by subtraction.

[BiffTFinancial]

That sucked yesterday...

Well UMass, and Big play on Wash for myself. I love how Minnesota has improved n the abscence of Ralph "Charmin" Sampson. I was saying this last year. Guy blows, and has no game. Addition by subtraction.

Washington? you mean Gophers? UW sucks on the road, no discipline, Minnesota has been playing great with new lineup and has the coaching advantage.

[BiffTFinancial]

Tuesday 3.27.2012
3* UMass/Stanford over 149' (-105)
3* Minnesota +1

BOL to all tonight.

[YOUNGBUCK]

bol biff im waitin on Washington under gonna let it keep goin up

[BiffTFinancial]

bol biff im waitin on Washington under gonna let it keep goin up

BOL, buck. i lean over in that game, but to be fair, MSG has been known to mess with teams' scoring before. here's hoping that if it happens, it happens to UW in the late game. hope that you cash on your plays tonight, pal.

[HoulihansTX]

No, I took Wash today.

[BiffTFinancial]

No, I took Wash today.

big on Romar, eh? well, one of us will be happy. BOL Houli.

[BiffTFinancial]

Tuesday 3.27.2012
3* UMass/Stanford over 149' (-105) - LOSER
3* Minnesota +1 - WINNER

1-1 -0.15u. 6-9 -6.46u NIT/CBI/CIT to date.

[BiffTFinancial]

lean Pitt 1H. like Pitt/Wazzu 1H under but don't think that my heart can take another one of those.

[RoadDog]

Take the 1h under. Wont be anything like you saw last game. Washington St. may score 15 points.