Hoops 2014

[BiffTFinancial]

slu was def the play at -3.5,, id prob play them up to -5, that defense doesnt et down and travels well, la salle does take care of the rock which a plus but their offense is trash, worse than last years team who only managed 54 on slu, i say keep riding the slu gravy train while they hot..i really like a lot bout that lsu team but had a hard time deciding if it was worth laying that number?

I'm in. I do love this SLU team and they just don't seem likely to lose focus here, and agree that La Salle doesn't have the firepower to scare them.

[BiffTFinancial]

Nice work Biff
Any thoughts on Baylor OK o/u?

Thanks! Will run Oregon/ASU and that total right now. Was leaning Sooners in standard Scott Drew fade.

[BiffTFinancial]

what was your number on ducks/asu? i made it 4-5 points higher than the 151 they hanging now..

I make it even higher than that, around the 159 that kenpom has, which makes it curious that it opened at 152 and then dropped. Not sure what to make of that. Of course, the reverse assessment applied to Huskers/Mildcats and i'm sure glad that i didn't pass on that...

[BiffTFinancial]

Nice work Biff
Any thoughts on Baylor OK o/u?

I have around 155. Lean over but like Sooners better. Baylor has covered twice in 2014.

[Reno_Thor]

Grabbed ASU/OR over at 150 myself. Also, not sure about the line movement myself but what the hell, seems low.

[2daBank]

you know me, that line movement shit doesnt mean jack to me ,, pisses me off if i dont get best of number but beyond that so what.. just like how those super low totals get bet up a lot seems like higher ones get bet down for reasons unbeknown to me? i dont see why the pace isnt there easily, i tried to get several guys in this gm into my draftstreet lineup cause seemed like value in a gm i projected lots of shots and points..

[SilverTongueFox]

Biff, have you been watching the Prov v Xavier game? Curious about pace of game. Combined 30 fewer possessions in this game than teams avg game. Shooting % not terrible. Did notice very few fouls. Teams have really slowed down today. Maybe a couple of OTs?

[BiffTFinancial]

Biff, have you been watching the Prov v Xavier game? Curious about pace of game. Combined 30 fewer possessions in this game than teams avg game. Shooting % not terrible. Did notice very few fouls. Teams have really slowed down today. Maybe a couple of OTs?

Ugh. That was awful. Lot less FTs than first meeting (24 down from 46). Ton of missed layups, esp by XU. Oh well.

[BiffTFinancial]

you know me, that line movement shit doesnt mean jack to me ,, pisses me off if i dont get best of number but beyond that so what.. just like how those super low totals get bet up a lot seems like higher ones get bet down for reasons unbeknown to me? i dont see why the pace isnt there easily, i tried to get several guys in this gm into my draftstreet lineup cause seemed like value in a gm i projected lots of shots and points..

I hear you. Total is rising at close. I passed but hope you hit!

[BiffTFinancial]

Heading out to eat for a bit. Passing on Duke game/1H, Utah State.

Eying Oklahoma, VCU, UGA 1H when i get back.

[SilverTongueFox]

Did you check out Tribe? Thinking I'm playing our alma mater's 1st half
Tribe +1.5 1st half
Dawgs -3 1st half

Bonnies choked away several leads. I'd expect it on the road but at home, give me break.

[BiffTFinancial]

Did you check out Tribe? Thinking I'm playing our alma mater's 1st half
Tribe +1.5 1st half
Dawgs -3 1st half

Bonnies choked away several leads. I'd expect it on the road but at home, give me break.

Passing on Tribe but hope you hit obviously. 3-0 start, then lost last three. Ugh.

[SilverTongueFox]

Passing on Tribe but hope you hit obviously. 3-0 start, then lost last three. Ugh.

Finally one I didn't have to sweat. Than you Tribe. Now let's go Dawgs

[Madison]

Biff, have you been watching the Prov v Xavier game? Curious about pace of game. Combined 30 fewer possessions in this game than teams avg game. Shooting % not terrible. Did notice very few fouls. Teams have really slowed down today. Maybe a couple of OTs?

Prov is tough to figure at times. They appear to vary their tempo. They did this to me earlier. Walking the ball around the perimeter.

[SilverTongueFox]

Dawgs lead 25-18 with 1:30 left on clock and with the ball. Back to back turnovers, A&M with a 2 and then a 3pt bucket one sec left and it's a loser. GD this shit makes me so mad sometimes. Ugh!!!!!

[BiffTFinancial]

Dawgs lead 25-18 with 1:30 left on clock and with the ball. Back to back turnovers, A&M with a 2 and then a 3pt bucket one sec left and it's a loser. GD this shit makes me so mad sometimes. Ugh!!!!!

Packed it in for the night after SLU game. Probably for the best. Passed on more losings leans that winning leans from 6 pm on. I've had three straight losing days and it feels as if i haven't won in a month (even though it felt as if i couldn't lose a week ago).

Have to maintain better mental toughness. Listening to some Jose Gonzalez/Junip to get myself back in proper positive state of mind. Fkn killer musicians. Pull yourself together and draw the line...

[BiffTFinancial]

Saturday 2.8.2014 final card
1* Virginia -7 - WINNER
1* Cleveland State +1 - WINNER
1* Nebraska/Northwestern under 119' (-107) - WINNER
1* Kentucky/Mississippi State over 142 - LOSER
1* Providence/Xavier over 140 (-102) - LOSER
1* St. Bonaventure -4 (-105) - LOSER
1* Saint Louis -4 (-105) - LOSER

3-4 -1.22u

3-0 start turned to straight shit. Three straight negative days.

Season to Date: 56-48-2 +4.07u

[BiffTFinancial]

Early sides leans for Sunday at first look
Sparty +3
Penn State -3'
Clemson/Cuse under 114' (i have 107-108 for this one, 110 at most)
St. John's +3
Oregon State +15

[2daBank]

love to see your number on temp/hou if you have a chance..once again i dont get the initial move, i woulda played over at 150, ignored the move and played ov 148.5.. the overs that do this ive struggled with much more than the unders that i disagree with the move tho..these are the 1s that freaking teams come out and kill the over in the 1st 10 minutes playing like crap then rest of gm pretty much plays out at the pace it should, hate that shit!. lol.

i like beavers and johnies as well.. sparty really tempting, think appling is make or break on whether i play or pass tho..

[BiffTFinancial]

love to see your number on temp/hou if you have a chance..once again i dont get the initial move, i woulda played over at 150, ignored the move and played ov 148.5.. the overs that do this ive struggled with much more than the unders that i disagree with the move tho..these are the 1s that freaking teams come out and kill the over in the 1st 10 minutes playing like crap then rest of gm pretty much plays out at the pace it should, hate that shit!. lol.

i like beavers and johnies as well.. sparty really tempting, think appling is make or break on whether i play or pass tho..

Morning, brotha! Will run numbers on Temple/Houston very soon.

I think that i'll be on Sparty with or without Appling. When he has played, he has not been himself shooting, and it's not as if Sparty lacks backcourt talent. I don't view Appling in his recent form as being that different from the replacement value that Izzo would get from Valentine or Trice (who combined for 13 assists vs 2 TOs when Sparty hung 82 vs PSU without Appling this week). I really wonder if we're going to know Appling's status much in advance of tip anyway. I can get +3' at BetUS right now and might go ahead and bite.

[BiffTFinancial]

Sunday 2.9.2014
1* Michigan State +3'

[2daBank]

Morning, brotha! Will run numbers on Temple/Houston very soon.

I think that i'll be on Sparty with or without Appling. When he has played, he has not been himself shooting, and it's not as if Sparty lacks backcourt talent. I don't view Appling in his recent form as being that different from the replacement value that Izzo would get from Valentine or Trice (who combined for 13 assists vs 2 TOs when Sparty hung 82 vs PSU without Appling this week). I really wonder if we're going to know Appling's status much in advance of tip anyway. I can get +3' at BetUS right now and might go ahead and bite.

fair points w/o appling and current form but my main thing is he is exactly what wiscy cannot defend,, i havnt really seen the other guys much so i dunno if they as good off the bounce and are capable of getting into the lane the way appling is?

[BiffTFinancial]

love to see your number on temp/hou if you have a chance..once again i dont get the initial move, i woulda played over at 150, ignored the move and played ov 148.5.. the overs that do this ive struggled with much more than the unders that i disagree with the move tho..these are the 1s that freaking teams come out and kill the over in the 1st 10 minutes playing like crap then rest of gm pretty much plays out at the pace it should, hate that shit!. lol.

i like beavers and johnies as well.. sparty really tempting, think appling is make or break on whether i play or pass tho..

I get 152-153 for Temple/Houston. Will give it a closer look, but that what i get initially.

[BiffTFinancial]

fair points w/o appling and current form but my main thing is he is exactly what wiscy cannot defend,, i havnt really seen the other guys much so i dunno if they as good off the bounce and are capable of getting into the lane the way appling is?

Appling is a special player, no doubt. Gary Harris certainly will abuse Wisky off the bounce, but that's not really your question (he was going to play 30+ minutes regardless). Valentine is bigger while Trice is more similar to Appling in terms of size. I will have to concede that neither will be as good as Appling at breaking down the Wisky defense off the bounce (though that's probably the role that Trice will play today if Appling doesn't go; i do think that Appling will go, his is so tough and won't want to miss a game in Madison). However, if Jackson and Brust for Wisky have to guard Harris and Valentine, Sparty will have a nice size/athleticism advantage there. Also, if Appling is 100% or certainly playing, i don't think that i'm getting +3' here. Bottomline: in Izzo i trust.

[2daBank]

I get 152-153 for Temple/Houston. Will give it a closer look, but that what i get initially.

i made little higher but i kinda weighted the fact that both teams have been mostly facing the bad asses of the conf that all be tenacious defense and just seeing a team across from them that far more generous on the defensive end could cause them both to play even a little more up and down as both offenses outta feel like this is easy after the teams they been seeing, especially hou as they have had very few gms not against good defenses, when they did get rutgers the gms were more opened up and just bout every gm temple has played not against the power defensive teams in conf have been high scoring..

[2daBank]

Appling is a special player, no doubt. Gary Harris certainly will abuse Wisky off the bounce, but that's not really your question (he was going to play 30+ minutes regardless). Valentine is bigger while Trice is more similar to Appling in terms of size. I will have to concede that neither will be as good as Appling at breaking down the Wisky defense off the bounce (though that's probably the role that Trice will play today if Appling doesn't go; i do think that Appling will go, his is so tough and won't want to miss a game in Madison). However, if Jackson and Brust for Wisky have to guard Harris and Valentine, Sparty will have a nice size/athleticism advantage there. Also, if Appling is 100% or certainly playing, i don't think that i'm getting +3' here. Bottomline: in Izzo i trust.

def agree with that, that why im kinda surprised chance he playing now as i somewhat assumed line says he was unlikely to go. harris should pimp them off the bounce no doubt.. you sold me, was sparty or pass all along but what the hell hard not to have some action on this one, lol... think im just playing the ml, if it within a possession ill take the +140 on the team i know can get a big stop late, this one i can live getting beat with a sparty loss by 3 or less as i just dont think they lose if it that close..

[BiffTFinancial]

adding

1* Clemson/Syracuse under 114' (-105)

Sunday 2.9.2014 updated card
1* Michigan State +3'
1* Clemson/Syracuse under 114' (-105)

[BiffTFinancial]

def agree with that, that why im kinda surprised chance he playing now as i somewhat assumed line says he was unlikely to go. harris should pimp them off the bounce no doubt.. you sold me, was sparty or pass all along but what the hell hard not to have some action on this one, lol... think im just playing the ml, if it within a possession ill take the +140 on the team i know can get a big stop late, this one i can live getting beat with a sparty loss by 3 or less as i just dont think they lose if it that close..

Let's get it.

[BiffTFinancial]

adding

1* Oregon State +15 (-105)

Sunday 2.9.2014 updated card
1* Michigan State +3'
1* Clemson/Syracuse under 114' (-105)
1* Oregon State +15 (-105)

[BiffTFinancial]

i made little higher but i kinda weighted the fact that both teams have been mostly facing the bad asses of the conf that all be tenacious defense and just seeing a team across from them that far more generous on the defensive end could cause them both to play even a little more up and down as both offenses outta feel like this is easy after the teams they been seeing, especially hou as they have had very few gms not against good defenses, when they did get rutgers the gms were more opened up and just bout every gm temple has played not against the power defensive teams in conf have been high scoring..

My biggest concern is that neither team's TO, ORB or FTA/FGA stats (esp Temple's) lend themselves to over (and if anything point to under). TOs and FTs contribute to over, while ORBs contribute to under. Temple doesn't commit or cause many TOs, and doesn't give or get many FTs, but gives up a ton of offensive boards. Houston is pretty neutral across those categories except for that they don't foul much. Likely a pass for me but hope you hit!

[BiffTFinancial]

adding

1* St. John's +3 (-105)

Great job of failing to get the best number on Clemson/Cuse total, Beavers. Both rose right after i played them. Double bah.

Sunday 2.9.2014 updated card
1* Michigan State +3'
1* Clemson/Syracuse under 114' (-105)
1* St. John's +3 (-105)
1* Oregon State +15 (-105)

BOL to all today.

[2daBank]

cant believe beavers line going up,, figured as much with cuse total,, ppl dont like playing unders on totals that low and seeing how it a tv gm gonna just wait and see where it goes until it shows signs of dropping..

[BiffTFinancial]

Sunday 2.9.2014 final card
1* Michigan State +3' - WINNER
1* Clemson/Syracuse under 114' (-105) - WINNER
1* St. John's +3 (-105) - WINNER
1* Oregon State +15 (-105) - LOSER

3-1 +1.95u

Season to Date: 59-49-2 +6.02u

[BiffTFinancial]

Early leans for Monday
WVU +2/over/WVU TT over
Providence +4'/under
Miami +5'/under
Towson -4
UVA 1H (guessing -6?)
Kansas State +3'

[BiffTFinancial]

Monday 2.10.2014
1* Virginia first half -6 (-115)