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  • CrazyCarl
    SBR MVP
    • 10-09-11
    • 1437

    #1576
    Originally posted by Kev the Brit
    Hi Wilba, yes, I agree that we need to see how each component version plays out and listing them in Steve's format achieves that requirement. No argument. However, and please correct me if I'm wrong, we also each decide at the outset of the season which version(s) we are going to play: V1 only, V1 and V2 only or V1, V2 and V3 and off we go.
    Kev
    Are you saying that it's not possible to ignore v1 and v2 plays, and only bet on the plays that are exclusive to v3?

    Or to ignore the plays exclusive to v2, and play v1 and v3 only?

    And I really don't care how Morrison classifies them, it's three different systems.
    Last edited by CrazyCarl; 12-23-12, 06:52 AM.
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    • Wallco99
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 01-01-11
      • 7261

      #1577
      Wallco NBA Chase 110
      2012-13 System to date: 28-0 (fin. series)
      System profit/loss: +28.00 units (fin. series)
      Current open series: 0

      (12/22/12):
      #28 Cleveland (+8) (A) - Win

      v1 Plays
      (A) 19-9
      (B) 5-4

      (C) 4-0
      (D) 0-0



      There are no system plays for (12/23/12)


      We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day, if the lines change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post.
      System rules and backtest can be found in post #219.
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      • thelimit0310
        SBR MVP
        • 01-24-11
        • 1233

        #1578
        7/5 Plays DEC 22

        No Plays

        7/5 Plays DEC 23

        No Plays

        Results:
        Bet 1: 7-8
        Bet 2: 5-3
        Utah 11/2
        Portland 11/25
        Boston 12/14
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        • Kev the Brit
          SBR MVP
          • 10-25-09
          • 2027

          #1579
          Originally posted by CrazyCarl
          Are you saying that it's not possible to ignore v1 and v2 plays, and only bet on the plays that are exclusive to v3?

          Or to ignore the plays exclusive to v2, and play v1 and v3 only?
          No, I'm not saying that it's not possible to ignore V1 or V2 plays. What I am saying, though, is that most of us play JM in one of the following 3 ways: V1 only; V1 and V2 only; or V1, V2 and V3. While anyone can play any of the versions, as he sees fit, I don't know anyone who chooses to play only V2 or V3, or V2 and V3. But, its a big World and I guess there is someone out there who does.

          Each to his own, I guess

          Kev
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          • Wallco99
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 01-01-11
            • 7261

            #1580
            Originally posted by thelimit0310
            7/5 Plays DEC 22

            No Plays

            7/5 Plays DEC 23

            No Plays

            Results:
            Bet 1: 7-8
            Bet 2: 5-3
            Utah 11/2
            Portland 11/25
            Boston 12/14
            I'm glad there's no plays today. That damn 23 seems to be our unlucky number this season.
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            • Wallco99
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 01-01-11
              • 7261

              #1581
              Originally posted by Kev the Brit
              No, I'm not saying that it's not possible to ignore V1 or V2 plays. What I am saying, though, is that most of us play JM in one of the following 3 ways: V1 only; V1 and V2 only; or V1, V2 and V3. While anyone can play any of the versions, as he sees fit, I don't know anyone who chooses to play only V2 or V3, or V2 and V3. But, its a big World and I guess there is someone out there who does.

              Each to his own, I guess

              Kev
              It literally takes 10 seconds to add the numbers together for the versions you are playing. I can't believe there is three days of arguing over it. I am not taking anyone's side, but this is really getting silly.
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              • J.M. Disciple
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 11-16-10
                • 5154

                #1582
                Phi (A) +6 [early game starts in 20 minutes. ]
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                • MARCUS
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 06-19-09
                  • 358

                  #1583
                  Originally posted by Wallco99
                  It literally takes 10 seconds to add the numbers together for the versions you are playing. I can't believe there is three days of arguing over it. I am not taking anyone's side, but this is really getting silly.
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                  • J.M. Disciple
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 11-16-10
                    • 5154

                    #1584
                    Dang a day off!!! At least closed the week breaking the 50 unit mark overall.

                    merry Christmas enjoy your holidays.
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                    • Mrscofield25
                      SBR MVP
                      • 02-23-11
                      • 2483

                      #1585
                      Merry christmas to all of you.
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                      • hagball52
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-22-10
                        • 3053

                        #1586
                        Merry Christmas
                        Last edited by hagball52; 12-24-12, 07:06 AM.
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                        • bauerranch
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 08-01-10
                          • 611

                          #1587
                          Merry Christmas to all members
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                          • Wallco99
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 01-01-11
                            • 7261

                            #1588
                            Merry Christmas Eve everybody.
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                            • thelimit0310
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-24-11
                              • 1233

                              #1589
                              No 7/5 Plays today
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                              • MARCUS
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 06-19-09
                                • 358

                                #1590
                                ..health,wealth and peace 2 all..God-bless.
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                                • Sandwich
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 01-21-12
                                  • 117

                                  #1591
                                  Merry Christmas guys, hope everyone has a great holiday.
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                                  • thelimit0310
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 01-24-11
                                    • 1233

                                    #1592
                                    Originally posted by Wallco99
                                    To further expand on last year's data, I combined the 1-3-5 and 7/5, and tested 1-7-5. It seems that the system last season would have done +119.88 units. The 7/5 did +99.98, which in itself is extremely impressive. The total loss for 1-7-5 would be 26.52 units, which is 4.85 units more than the 7/5 (21.67 u). This is more than made up on the A bet wins THIS PARTICULAR SEASON.
                                    Wallco please get back to my PM regarding the results of this 7/5 test when you can, I don't believe that number is accurate. My numbers don't fall in line with what you got. They match with the spreadsheet posted by nitsuj here (http://forum.sbrforum.com/nba-basket...l#post16071790 ) which leads me to believe you may not have accounted for something. I would like to iron out the discrepancies here.
                                    Last edited by thelimit0310; 12-24-12, 07:18 PM.
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                                    • J.M. Disciple
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 11-16-10
                                      • 5154

                                      #1593
                                      Have a couple A-bets tomorrow. Steve want to post plays tonight so no one interrupts their holiday tomorrow? I know the plays just giving a heads up for the early games.
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                                      • Wallco99
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 01-01-11
                                        • 7261

                                        #1594
                                        Originally posted by thelimit0310
                                        Wallco please get back to my PM regarding the results of this 7/5 test when you can, I don't believe that number is accurate. My numbers don't fall in line with what you got. They match with the spreadsheet posted by nitsuj here (http://forum.sbrforum.com/nba-basket...l#post16071790 ) which leads me to believe you may not have accounted for something. I would like to iron out the discrepancies here.
                                        I found my error, thanks for posting this. There were 4 games which I qualified based on M/L when the lines were low, instead of giving the favorite + points. I didn't see how we handled that situation in any of the 7/5 description posts, so I just assumed we did it the same way as JM does. Those 4 games would have resulted in 2 wins and two losses. Other than that, everything I had was the same as that spreadsheet.

                                        The new counts for 2011-12 are:

                                        7/5: +131.32 units
                                        1-7-5: +158.92 units

                                        Thanks for getting back to me. Now all seasons should be correct from here on.
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                                        • Wallco99
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 01-01-11
                                          • 7261

                                          #1595
                                          Officially, Merry Christmas Everyone!
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                                          • thelimit0310
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 01-24-11
                                            • 1233

                                            #1596
                                            No problem Wallco I'm glad that was cleared up. So it seems the A bets at -110 did go positive last season, I trust Wilba in his assessment that the A bets lose long term, but It's possible that's not the case. I look forward to your results Wallco.
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                                            • Mrscofield25
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 02-23-11
                                              • 2483

                                              #1597
                                              As JMD said in post #1593.

                                              Traditional JM 12/25 with 3 points bought.
                                              Odds from Bet365.

                                              BOS +6 V2. A. Starts in 30 minutes.
                                              NYK +7 V1. A.
                                              HOU ​+7,5 V3. A.
                                              Last edited by Mrscofield25; 12-26-12, 05:08 AM. Reason: Edited post, added info.
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                                              • stevex
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 05-02-10
                                                • 5122

                                                #1598
                                                Hey fellas thanks for picking up the slack, have been at my relatives the past 2 days. Will post the updated win/loss records tonight when I get home

                                                Merry Xmas to everyone and there families!
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                                                • Wallco99
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 01-01-11
                                                  • 7261

                                                  #1599
                                                  Originally posted by stevex
                                                  Hey fellas thanks for picking up the slack, have been at my relatives the past 2 days. Will post the updated win/loss records tonight when I get home

                                                  Merry Xmas to everyone and there families!
                                                  Enjoy your holiday.
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                                                  • bisturis
                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                    • 04-03-11
                                                    • 141

                                                    #1600
                                                    Merry Christmas Guys!!
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                                                    • Wallco99
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 01-01-11
                                                      • 7261

                                                      #1601
                                                      Wallco NBA Chase 110
                                                      2012-13 System to date: 28-0 (fin. series)
                                                      System profit/loss: +28.00 units (fin. series)
                                                      Current open series: 0

                                                      v1 Plays
                                                      (A) 19-9
                                                      (B) 5-4

                                                      (C) 4-0
                                                      (D) 0-0



                                                      There are no system plays for (12/25/12)

                                                      Happy Holidays!
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                                                      • Mrscofield25
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 02-23-11
                                                        • 2483

                                                        #1602
                                                        Ehm... Wallco?

                                                        What the h... happened to your NHL thread - a lot of posts is deleted?
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                                                        • Wallco99
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 01-01-11
                                                          • 7261

                                                          #1603
                                                          Originally posted by Mrscofield25
                                                          Ehm... Wallco?

                                                          What the h... happened to your NHL thread - a lot of posts is deleted?
                                                          Some little babies whined to the moderators. "There is NBA plays in our non existent NHL forum...wah...wah...wah. Bunch of fags!
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                                                          • knugen
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 12-09-09
                                                            • 2612

                                                            #1604
                                                            Wallco, how do u go on with tthe knicks series If u play the 1-7-5 system, i guess u take the loss and go on since they dont qualify for the 7/5 ?
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                                                            • Wallco99
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 01-01-11
                                                              • 7261

                                                              #1605
                                                              Originally posted by knugen
                                                              Wallco, how do u go on with tthe knicks series If u play the 1-7-5 system, i guess u take the loss and go on since they dont qualify for the 7/5 ?
                                                              Yes, -110 and move on. That is how the backtest has gone so far. The two others were "A" wins, so an overall +money day.
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                                                              • knugen
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 12-09-09
                                                                • 2612

                                                                #1606
                                                                Originally posted by Wallco99
                                                                Yes, -110 and move on. That is how the backtest has gone so far. The two others were "A" wins, so an overall +money day.
                                                                Ok thanks
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                                                                • Mrscofield25
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 02-23-11
                                                                  • 2483

                                                                  #1607
                                                                  Traditional JM 12/25 with 3 points bought. Odds from Bet365.

                                                                  BOS +6 V2. A. Win.
                                                                  NYK +7 V1. A. Win.
                                                                  HOU ​+7,5 V3. A. Win.

                                                                  I believe you'll take over from here Stevex.
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                                                                  • Mrscofield25
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 02-23-11
                                                                    • 2483

                                                                    #1608
                                                                    Originally posted by Wallco99
                                                                    Some little babies whined to the moderators. "There is NBA plays in our non existent NHL forum...wah...wah...wah. Bunch of fags!
                                                                    Some will always spoil it for others. Mind their own business!
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                                                                    • BuckeyeKaptn
                                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                                      • 11-16-12
                                                                      • 271

                                                                      #1609
                                                                      Originally posted by Wallco99
                                                                      Some little babies whined to the moderators. "There is NBA plays in our non existent NHL forum...wah...wah...wah. Bunch of fags!
                                                                      geez...i went there when i just wanted the plays really quick
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                                                                      • cmdyrds
                                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                                        • 08-20-09
                                                                        • 522

                                                                        #1610
                                                                        looks like today we got:

                                                                        v2 raptors
                                                                        v3 heat
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