John Morrison 2012-13 NBA Thread

[knugen]

Not looking good for any of our 7 units bet

[knugen]

2 c bets and pretty much money pending tomorrow

[yelohell]

2 c bets and pretty much money pending tomorrow

Philly tomorrow is a C bet, I think... Correct me if I'm wrong.

[Riceboi]

wolves gotta play spurs next, goodbye sweet money lol

[kdavis]

Just manage your bankroll and keep playing the system.

[J.M. Disciple]

MIA (B)
CHA (B)
HOU (C)

Based off not buying 3 points. I believe those are the only three plays tomorrow. Three new series start Sunday.

[ChiLLx]

This is what systems are made for boys. Stick to your guns and be smart.

[Akajason18]

Mia has been struggling lately

[yelohell]

Houston had a tough loss tonight at Boston, coming to Philly tom for a b2b who is also struggling lately.

[Vinnie Paz]

Isn't Philly a C bet on the Wallco chase as well?
So for guys who play both systems, how would you approach this? (Hou/Phil both C but playing each other)

[J.M. Disciple]

Heads up on NFL playoff game tomorrow. For those of you who have 5dimes you can do a bit of an arbitrage, but do not get carried away.

Greenbay: +2.5 (+112) [reduced section] $100 to win $112
SF: -3.5 (+125) [regular section] $100 to win $125

so as long as the game does not end in exactly 3 points, you will make at least $12 depending on how much you bet. Thing about this bet is its basically $200 / $12 so as long as the game does not end in exactly SF winning by 3 points 1 in every 16 games you make money. So far this season SF has not won by exactly 3 points, so seems profitable to me...

Thoughts?

[J.M. Disciple]

Isn't Philly a C bet on the Wallco chase as well?
So for guys who play both systems, how would you approach this? (Hou/Phil both C but playing each other)

Usually the answer to this is play favorite ML and dog ATS, but this game they are PK, so its a bit tough. Similar to Stiff's thread though, if two A bets are going against each you you play neither, than continue the losing series to win 2 units on B. To make math easier just bet both sides, lose the vig and hope Hou covers their C and PHi covers the D, so both systems win.

My best advice is learn to labby. You can always do martingale chase with these systems, but for the losing series, put it on a labby line and slowly chip away at it on the side. May take some time, but worth it long run or just run the labby period.


oh one more thing, you could create a teaser and try and middle both games.

[olmec]

Games for (1/11/13):
#33 Resumes (C) on 1/12/13
#36 Utah @ Atlanta (M/L) (B) (7:35 pm EST)

Our values are 1.1 / 2,31 /4,85 / 10.19, if i am right. Now i cant understand that we play Atlanta as a B bet with ratio like 1,45. This means we cant get the money that we lose in A bet.

(Sorry if this is a silly question) thanks for the answers

[Kev the Brit]

Our values are 1.1 / 2,31 /4,85 / 10.19, if i am right. Now i cant understand that we play Atlanta as a B bet with ratio like 1,45. This means we cant get the money that we lose in A bet.

(Sorry if this is a silly question) thanks for the answers

Hi olmec, the ratios you quoted are for the spread bets when the pick is not the favourite (known as the dog) and has a +ve handicap. When the pick is the favourite and has a -ve handicap, the system requires us to play the Moneyline (ML) for a straight up win without applying the handicaps. You therefore risk sufficient money to win your cumulative lost stakes so far plus your original target. Atlanta's betting trail was (for me, at Bet365):

A Bet: ML (Bet365 odds 1.57). 1.57 units to win 1 unit. A Bet lost 1.57 units. B Bet target is 1.57 units + 1 unit = 2.57 units.
B Bet: ML (Bet365 odds 1.55). 4.67 units to win 2.57 units. Bet won 2.57 units. To prove the math we deduct the 1.57 lost A Bet units and we have 1 unit profit.

Clearly, this can get to be a very high risk if the pick is a big favourite. Wallco is currently working on a filter to protect the system against high risk ML bets.....

Hope this helps
Kev

[Kev the Brit]

Isn't Philly a C bet on the Wallco chase as well?
So for guys who play both systems, how would you approach this? (Hou/Phil both C but playing each other)

Play both as normal. Phil has a D Bet if they lose. Hou is part of a system that includes multiple C Bet losses.

[olmec]

You therefore risk sufficient money to win your cumulative lost stakes so far plus your original target.

Thank you very much

[Wallco99]

Wallco NBA Chase 110
2012-13 System to date: 36-0 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +36.00 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 1 (-3.47 units)

(1/11/13):
#36 Atlanta (M/L) (B) - Win

v1 Plays
(A) 22-15
(B) 9-6
(C) 5-0
(D) 0-0


Games for (1/12/13):
#33 Houston @ Philadelphia (+1) (C) (7:35 pm EST)
#38 Miami @ Sacramento (**) (A) (10:05 pm EST)

** Denotes line not available at time of post


We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day, if the lines change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post.
System rules and backtest can be found in post #219.

[knugen]

Hm its scary that philly are a C bet for chase 110 when we have alot of money on houston on 7/5

[cubfan2121]

I will bet you 100 billion dollars 49ers win by 3

Heads up on NFL playoff game tomorrow. For those of you who have 5dimes you can do a bit of an arbitrage, but do not get carried away.

Greenbay: +2.5 (+112) [reduced section] $100 to win $112
SF: -3.5 (+125) [regular section] $100 to win $125

so as long as the game does not end in exactly 3 points, you will make at least $12 depending on how much you bet. Thing about this bet is its basically $200 / $12 so as long as the game does not end in exactly SF winning by 3 points 1 in every 16 games you make money. So far this season SF has not won by exactly 3 points, so seems profitable to me...

Thoughts?

[MARCUS]

Heads up on NFL playoff game tomorrow. For those of you who have 5dimes you can do a bit of an arbitrage, but do not get carried away.

Greenbay: +2.5 (+112) [reduced section] $100 to win $112
SF: -3.5 (+125) [regular section] $100 to win $125

so as long as the game does not end in exactly 3 points, you will make at least $12 depending on how much you bet. Thing about this bet is its basically $200 / $12 so as long as the game does not end in exactly SF winning by 3 points 1 in every 16 games you make money. So far this season SF has not won by exactly 3 points, so seems profitable to me...

Thoughts?

a "arb"..or "sure bet" is sure 2 win (+2.5 to +3% avg.) regardless of score,or who wins..i have packers +125...2 win by 3...bol

[thes0vereign]

The Heat/Kings line is up. Took Kings @ +7.5

[knugen]

The Heat/Kings line is up. Took Kings @ +7.5

Hmm ok so you are betting against the system?

[thes0vereign]

Hmm ok so you are betting against the system?

Kings are a play on the Chase 110 system. I play 7/5 AND Chase 110, so I get to bet on both sides today.

[knugen]

Tes of course i dont play chase 110 so i missed that

[thelimit0310]

7/5 Plays JAN 11

Minnesota +3 vs New Orleans - Bet 1
Houston +3 vs Boston - Bet 1

7/5 Plays JAN 12

Houston -1 vs Philadelphia - Bet 2

Miami - 7 vs Sacramento - Bet 2

Results:
Bet 1: 10-11
Bet 2: 5-3
Utah 11/2
Portland 11/25
Boston 12/14

[knugen]

Anyone know how many c bet we had total last season?

[Want2Win]

Wallco and The Limit:

I know you guys play both of the systems, so I am wondering what you guys are going to do today as far as Houston and Phil is concerned

Thanks for all the work the both of you guys do!

[knugen]

Shouldnt charlotte be a bet 1 today on 7/5?

[Huego]

Shouldnt charlotte be a bet 1 today on 7/5?

Ya, it looks like it. I'll wait for wallco or thelimit to confirm.

[ChiLLx]

Why is Charlotte not a play?

[Kev the Brit]

Shouldnt charlotte be a bet 1 today on 7/5?

Yes, it meets the criteria. Thelimit has already posted the plays for tonight, so its likely that he will not return to this forum and read our posts before the tip-off.

We know the rules, so lets not wait to be spoon fed. I'm playing it.

[Huego]

Kev, is there a filter with this system? Maybe we filter out the 5 worse teams etc.

[J.M. Disciple]

Shouldnt charlotte be a bet 1 today on 7/5?

With a loss of 78 to 99 and spread of +8 they did lose by more than 12pts, so you are correct. 3.5 filter is met.

[Kev the Brit]

Kev, is there a filter with this system? Maybe we filter out the 5 worse teams etc.

No filters

[Kev the Brit]

Any doubts about the 7/5 applying to Charlotte will be removed if you go here:

http://forum.sbrforum.com/nba-basketball-betting/1253913-john-morrison-2011-12-nba-thread-p55.html#post13698541

Allow the page to load and then it will take you to thelimit0310 post with the 7/5 rules