Money Line Parlays in the NBA = By Far the Best Way to Bet

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  • riskyProps
    SBR MVP
    • 11-11-10
    • 2201

    #351
    Every favorite beat the ML tonight. I had 9 of them. I got a return of +1300 on my bet. I'm a happy man tonight

    If you pick enough solid teams, ML parlays pays very well
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    • Nellyinctown
      SBR High Roller
      • 12-08-08
      • 216

      #352
      Originally posted by Nellyinctown
      I think that every point spread favorite on the board will win tonight on ML except possibly Dallas or Chicago. Will put a small parlay on this with a few two and three teamers.
      Well, I didnt put one in for all 11, just 7 of them. I am up $2,000 tonight, only loss was Boston -3, damn point spreads
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      • curious
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        • 07-20-07
        • 9093

        #353
        Originally posted by curious
        Big loss on Monday -$2000
        YTD 4-2 +$1560

        Tuesday
        $3000 to win $14,600
        RR x2, x3, x4, x5, x6, x7
        Phil -110
        Charlotte -190
        Atlanta -170
        Houston -525
        Denver -110
        Lakers -360
        Golden State -165
        I forgot to cash this yesterday, paid $3,353 profit. I thought this lost for some reason. Only Atlanta lost, everyone else won. LOL
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        • curious
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          • 07-20-07
          • 9093

          #354
          YTD Recap

          Let's see, I was at +$1560 (or something close to that)

          Then I had these losers: -$4560 and -$3480
          1 winner that I had forgot to cash. +$3353
          And today went 6-0 on a big ticket +$10,530

          +$1560
          -$4560
          -$3480
          +$3353
          +10,530

          Total YTD +$7,403

          I don't know what the win-loss numbers are, I'll figure that out tomorrow.

          This is a crazy thing we do, betting on sporting events. LOL

          I might take tomorrow off, the wife wants to decorate the Christmas tree, neither one of us are Christian but we LOVE Christmas, figure that one out. My wife is a Buddhist and I am like Riddick, "I absolutely believe in god and I absolutely hate the fu$@er".
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          • Nellyinctown
            SBR High Roller
            • 12-08-08
            • 216

            #355
            Originally posted by curious
            I forgot to cash this yesterday, paid $3,353 profit. I thought this lost for some reason. Only Atlanta lost, everyone else won. LOL
            Congrats man, I have tried Round Robins but never for ML but may start. It seems like a lot less of a gamble than RRs on the spread, and some of these games in the NBA you might as well so play blackjack instead of parlaying point spreads.
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            • Nellyinctown
              SBR High Roller
              • 12-08-08
              • 216

              #356
              I think tomorrow is a no play day but I might do a small play of Celtics ML with the Chargers ML. The NFL is pretty good for ML this time of year, but max 2-3 teams in the parlays.
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              • curious
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                • 07-20-07
                • 9093

                #357
                Originally posted by Nellyinctown
                Congrats man, I have tried Round Robins but never for ML but may start. It seems like a lot less of a gamble than RRs on the spread, and some of these games in the NBA you might as well so play blackjack instead of parlaying point spreads.
                I was very lucky early in my sports betting career. I started off following a guy who sells picks on the radio. He did pretty well for the baseball season that year. Then he totally tanked, I check his record from time to time, he has been in the tank for 3 years. Wow.

                Anyway, I was in Vegas and I ran into a couple of pros. Older gentlemen and they liked me for some reason and they taught me a couple of things. The first thing I noticed was that they NEVER take the spread. Not on any sport. So, I never take the spread.

                Now, a lot of people on here complain about the lines on ML, saying that you can't afford to lay 500 to win 100. But they are wrong. Playing the ML puts you in a tremendous advantage IF you know how to cap and know that the ML is correct (sometimes they lie).

                ML is the way to go, especially on parlays.

                Take tonight, I went 6-0 because I use the ML, if I had used the spread on those same games I would be 2-4.

                I don't even watch games, I don't like sports, well, and I have a young pretty wife. How many times have you watched a game, sweating, because your line was -7 and your team was up by 6 and there were a few seconds to go? I don't have to worry about that. I only have to win by 1.
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                • Bazz27
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                  • 02-21-09
                  • 196

                  #358
                  Giday there mate, your doing very well with your ML parlays, but havent the dogs been winning alot lately in nba/nfl n how can you buy picks from a guy on the radio - i would imagine they would be free to everyone thats tuned in so everyones getting them, or is this gee up..
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                  • brahmabull117
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                    • 11-08-10
                    • 8622

                    #359
                    Originally posted by curious
                    I don't even watch games, I don't like sports


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                    • himeshforex
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                      • 05-29-09
                      • 1414

                      #360
                      curios , im strangely like you
                      i like main lines , always believe in em , love parlays and dont watch all games, very few !
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                      • brahmabull117
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                        • 11-08-10
                        • 8622

                        #361
                        Originally posted by Nellyinctown
                        I think tomorrow is a no play day but I might do a small play of Celtics ML with the Chargers ML. The NFL is pretty good for ML this time of year, but max 2-3 teams in the parlays.
                        I would strongly recommend everybody here to play the spread on this niners/chargers game


                        49ers haven't shown much of an ability to play close games against decent opponents on the road. They lost by 25 on the road to the seahawks, by 21 to the chiefs, by 18 to the packers, and by 21 even at home just a couple weeks ago vs Tampa bay


                        the chargers on the other hand have blown out 4 out of the 5 bad teams they have faced at home this year


                        the line on this game is 9.0. Personally I think Chargers will win this by about 24 (like 34-10)
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                        • BernardMadoff
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                          • 12-12-09
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                          #362
                          Originally posted by curious
                          This discusses using 2 pick parlays only.
                          If you can do it this way, and not everyone can admittedly, make your parlays as two pick. At most books you can set up a round robin by 2 across all the teams you like. What this does is give you every possible 2 pick parlay across the listed teams. The better way to do a group of parlays is to bet them all to win the same amount, but I have not yet found an online round robin bet that would let you set them up that way so you have to do it by hand. If you use a local you can probably set the bet up that way. After I wacked my local I have had a hard time finding a new one but I digress.

                          You can create your own round robin by hand and I usually do it that way. I posted today's round robin the way the online books will force you to do it. Here is an example of a 3 pick round robin where you bet each game to win the same amount.

                          Charlotte -190
                          Houston -525
                          Lakers -360

                          Charlotte Houston -122 Risk $1220 to win $1000
                          Charlotte Lakers -105 Risk $1050 to win $1000
                          Houston Lakers -192 Risk $1920 to win $1000

                          Here, we have risked $4140 to win $3000. If one team loses we lose two bets and win one bet. Let's say that Charlotte loses, then we lose $2270 and win $1000 for a net loss of $1270.

                          Now lets do the same 3 plays in a 3 pick parlay to win $3000.
                          Charlotte -190
                          Houston -525
                          Lakers -360

                          We risk $2270 to win $3000.
                          Now if Charlotte loses we lose $2270.

                          Doing the parlays by 2 instead of by 3 is less risk.
                          Now, if 2 teams lose then the by 2 strategy really blows. We lose $4140. I have been doing this a long time and very rarely will you have 2 high odds teams lose in the same day. Over an entire season the x2 parlay strategy is better.

                          This is a risk management strategy and in gambling risk management is everything.
                          Ive thought about doing them but really dont understand them, this puts it a little more in perspective.
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                          • BernardMadoff
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                            • 12-12-09
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                            #363
                            Originally posted by curious
                            I forgot to cash this yesterday, paid $3,353 profit. I thought this lost for some reason. Only Atlanta lost, everyone else won. LOL
                            Im on 5Dimes, I dont see a round robin on there, is this the same as an if bet or action reverse?
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                            • curious
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                              • 07-20-07
                              • 9093

                              #364
                              Originally posted by Bazz27
                              Giday there mate, your doing very well with your ML parlays, but havent the dogs been winning alot lately in nba/nfl n how can you buy picks from a guy on the radio - i would imagine they would be free to everyone thats tuned in so everyones getting them, or is this gee up..
                              Are you smoking crack? He didn't give the picks out over the radio only told you how to buy them. Geeze.
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                              • curious
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                                • 07-20-07
                                • 9093

                                #365
                                Originally posted by BernardMadoff
                                Im on 5Dimes, I dont see a round robin on there, is this the same as an if bet or action reverse?
                                No.

                                A round robin is a parlay of the size you specify across all the teams you list.

                                Lets say you pick:
                                Lakers
                                Pistons
                                Celtics

                                A 2x round robin gives you 2 pick parlays in every possible way for the 3 teams.
                                A 3x round robin gives you a 3 pick parlay.

                                If you have 4 teams, say
                                Lakers
                                Pistons
                                Celtics
                                Bulls

                                A 2x gives you 2 pick parlays across all 4 teams.
                                A 3x gives you 3 pick parlays across all 4 teams.
                                A 4x gives you a 4 pick parlay.

                                A lot of books don't offer round robins so you have to place the bets manually, which is actually better because you want each bet to win the same amount, and you calculate that amount by taking the 2 teams with the worst line.

                                So, say you have 5 teams and 3 of them are -200 and 1 is -500 and 1 is -800. You calculate the odds of the -500 playing the -800 and determine how much you want to win on that game. That is the to win you use on all the games, even the 3x, 4x, and 5x. The reason is that a 2x is more likely to win than a 3x, and the 2 teams with the biggest line are more likely to win.

                                I don't list the parlays using this approach because I don't have time to type out all the games separately and no book that I can find let's you place the bets this way automatically, so you have to do it by hand. Given 6 teams and doing 2x, 3x, 4x, 5x, and 6x if you had to list all the games separately you would have over 100 games to type out and I doubt if anyone here wants to read all that mess. LOL
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                                • curious
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                                  • 07-20-07
                                  • 9093

                                  #366
                                  Originally posted by Bazz27
                                  Giday there mate, your doing very well with your ML parlays, but havent the dogs been winning alot lately in nba/nfl n how can you buy picks from a guy on the radio - i would imagine they would be free to everyone thats tuned in so everyones getting them, or is this gee up..
                                  I don't bet NFL so I can't help you there.

                                  I don't play close favs in the NBA, only blow out favs, I usually only take 7 point favs or higher. The other day I did a round robin with a bunch of close favs but I was fooling around. What I recommend is only take favs that are 7 points or more.
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                                  • curious
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                                    • 07-20-07
                                    • 9093

                                    #367
                                    Originally posted by BernardMadoff
                                    Ive thought about doing them but really dont understand them, this puts it a little more in perspective.
                                    Here is what I recommend and my friends and I have been doing this for a long time and never had a losing NBA season. Not even close.

                                    List all the teams that are favored by 7 or more.
                                    Cap the games to make sure that the handicappers aren't setting a trap.

                                    Play all the teams that are favored by 7 or more in 2 pick parlays across all of these teams. Bet to win the same amount on each parlay. This means you will bet more on the big favorites and less on the smaller favorites but don't take any team below 7 points.

                                    Now if you want to really push this you can set up your own parlay using single bets on games that are far enough apart time wise. I do this in college basketball all the time. Let's say that you have a game you like going at 1 PM and another game you like going at 7 PM. Instead of paying the vig on the parlay you make your own no vig parlay by betting the 1 PM game straight up and then letting the winnings ride on the 2nd game. Let's say the first game was a -300 team and you bet it $300 to win $100, and it wins. The later game you let the $100 winning ride on the play, let's say it was also a -300 team. You want to play this game to win $100 so you take the $100 you already won and let it ride, now risking $200. What you have done here is created a parlay with no vig. I do this all the time.

                                    I have some friends who don't do it this way. They want 1 to 1 odds so they pick enough games to get 1 to 1 odds. They combine NCAAB and NBA and take the most extreme odds. They are very successful, and I have done it this way also. Whether you use 2 pick parlays or bigger parlays is up to you but mathematically 2 pick are better. Takes a bigger bankroll of course.
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                                    • curious
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                                      • 07-20-07
                                      • 9093

                                      #368
                                      Rice -300
                                      Tulsa -450
                                      Nets TBD
                                      Celtics TBD
                                      San Diego -475

                                      Round robin 2x across all teams
                                      I will probably do this to win $3,000

                                      I'll update this later when I can get a line on Nets and Celtics, if the line is too low I will remove them.
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                                      • JBT
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                                        • 06-26-10
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                                        #369
                                        Originally posted by curious
                                        Who is talking about definites?
                                        MUherd37 for one.... and there have been others throughout this thread. Not keeping a list of them though, sorry...
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                                        • curious
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                                          • 07-20-07
                                          • 9093

                                          #370
                                          Originally posted by JBT
                                          MUherd37 for one.... and there have been others throughout this thread. Not keeping a list of them though, sorry...
                                          You mean the children who don't actually bet money? I don't think anyone pays them any attention.
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                                          • Sawyer
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                                            • 06-01-09
                                            • 7713

                                            #371
                                            curious,

                                            this is dangerous specially in nba. even lakers can lose vs indiana and charlotte at home. nets beat celtics. such low odds are not valuable imo. nba where amazing happenz, everything is possible.
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                                            • curious
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                                              • 07-20-07
                                              • 9093

                                              #372
                                              Originally posted by Sawyer
                                              curious,

                                              this is dangerous specially in nba. even lakers can lose vs indiana and charlotte at home. nets beat celtics. such low odds are not valuable imo. nba where amazing happenz, everything is possible.
                                              I don't have odds on these 2 teams right now. If the odds are less than a true ML for -7 spread then I am going to remove those games.
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                                              • curious
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                                                • 07-20-07
                                                • 9093

                                                #373
                                                Denver vs San Antonio why such a low line?

                                                In capping this game it looks like San Antonio ML is the play. I don't usually take games where the spread is this low but this looks wrong to me.

                                                Thoughts?
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                                                • Nellyinctown
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 12-08-08
                                                  • 216

                                                  #374
                                                  4 team parlay:
                                                  BOS -320
                                                  SD -525
                                                  Rice -300
                                                  Tulsa -450
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                                                  • curious
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                                                    • 07-20-07
                                                    • 9093

                                                    #375
                                                    Originally posted by Nellyinctown
                                                    4 team parlay:
                                                    BOS -320
                                                    SD -525
                                                    Rice -300
                                                    Tulsa -450
                                                    this looks like a really bad parlay
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                                                    • dwang0725
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                                                      • 09-23-10
                                                      • 330

                                                      #376
                                                      Yesterday in the NBA, it was a great day for the ML parlay. I hit a crazy 9 team ML parlay, playing PHX/MEM/LAL/NO/SA/DAL/CHI/PHL/MIA, all favorite MLs. I thought for sure this was a losing ticket as NO was losing by 16 at the half, but they pulled the game out!

                                                      I'm fairly new at the NBA, so I'm starting off with low amounts. I wish I would have played the RR that curious suggested (that play would have been sick!), but like I said, just getting my feet wet with the NBA. +$500 after the second day of betting (won with LAL/HOU the night before, but lost with Tenn/Louisville in NCAAB), so I'm not complaining! Will be following this thread closely.
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                                                      • curious
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                                                        • 07-20-07
                                                        • 9093

                                                        #377
                                                        Originally posted by dwang0725
                                                        Yesterday in the NBA, it was a great day for the ML parlay. I hit a crazy 9 team ML parlay, playing PHX/MEM/LAL/NO/SA/DAL/CHI/PHL/MIA, all favorite MLs. I thought for sure this was a losing ticket as NO was losing by 16 at the half, but they pulled the game out!

                                                        I'm fairly new at the NBA, so I'm starting off with low amounts. I wish I would have played the RR that curious suggested (that play would have been sick!), but like I said, just getting my feet wet with the NBA. +$500 after the second day of betting (won with LAL/HOU the night before, but lost with Tenn/Louisville in NCAAB), so I'm not complaining! Will be following this thread closely.
                                                        I would take tonight off, the games are rough.
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                                                        • brahmabull117
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                                                          • 11-08-10
                                                          • 8622

                                                          #378
                                                          Originally posted by curious
                                                          In capping this game it looks like San Antonio ML is the play. I don't usually take games where the spread is this low but this looks wrong to me.

                                                          Thoughts?

                                                          Denver is like 42-10 at home the last 2 years, wouldn't touch this game with a 10 foot stick
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                                                          • dwang0725
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                                                            • 09-23-10
                                                            • 330

                                                            #379
                                                            I agree. Games are tough tonight. I do like SD Chargers -9 in NFL though.

                                                            Although I lost my Tenn/Louisville bet on Tues, I think this strategy would work out quite well in NCAAB, especially early on in the season in non conference play.
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                                                            • Nellyinctown
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 12-08-08
                                                              • 216

                                                              #380
                                                              Originally posted by curious
                                                              this looks like a really bad parlay
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                                                              • curious
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                                                                • 07-20-07
                                                                • 9093

                                                                #381
                                                                Originally posted by Nellyinctown
                                                                I have the same picks in my bets that I posted before this crackhead, I was just funning around.
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                                                                • jolmscheid
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                                                                  • 02-20-10
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                                                                  #382
                                                                  Curious...so on your round robins, are you seriously placing over 100 bets Manually???
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                                                                  • curious
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                                                                    • 07-20-07
                                                                    • 9093

                                                                    #383
                                                                    Originally posted by jolmscheid
                                                                    Curious...so on your round robins, are you seriously placing over 100 bets Manually???
                                                                    Depends on where I place them. If I use a local, no. If I use a US book, yes. If I use a non-US book, no.

                                                                    Its not a big deal if you are serious about this.
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                                                                    • keel44
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                                                                      • 08-01-09
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                                                                      #384
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                                                                      Last edited by keel44; 12-16-10, 02:39 PM.
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                                                                      • jolmscheid
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                                                                        • 02-20-10
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                                                                        #385
                                                                        Hey Keel...could you check 7+ HOME favs?? That is my main filter....I think 7 is def. a key number in NBA too...
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