gl on the plays tonight guys
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DO WORK + KROW OD
do work! do work! do work! do work!
od krow! od krow! od krow! od krow!
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Labby system.
I'm just confused on how many lines to run.
I am following TPS, SBP, JM, and Crusher now.
If my labby line for example starts off as:
$10 $10 $10 $10
$10 $10 $10 $10
$10 $10 $10 $10
$10 $10 $10 $10
Do i create separate lines for each system?
My first bet would be adding the two ends together so $10 + $10 my first bet would be $20 Detroit [b wager] to win $18. If I lose that then my new line would look like:
$10 $10 $10 $10 $20
Then if there is a C bet or a new bet the next day I would bet $30 to win say $27.
Also I would need 3 or 4 lines running at a time in order to cover the multiple bets every day correct?Comment -
For those of you who use labby lines can someone explain how many lines you have going for each system?
How does the labby work if you have multiple bets on the same day? Do you have to create a new line for every bet?
For example if you had three labby lines going and they started out like:
$50 $50 $50 $50
$50 $50 $50 $50
$50 $50 $50 $50
But you had 3 plays for crusher, 1 play for Tps, 1 play for JM, 1 play for tps, how would you organize those bets into those 3 lines?Comment -
I would do a 2 line labby for each system just like how JW cash implements his.DO WORK + KROW OD
do work! do work! do work! do work!
od krow! od krow! od krow! od krow!
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so i would have like 8 labby lines?Comment -
I do a 2 line labby for every 3 game chase sequence I use......
I play the A Bet on Line 1
if the A bet loses I divide the loss and put 65% on Line 2
and the other 35% on Line 1
The reason is that the B Bet has a higher pct to win...
I also divide a loss into all 4 variables of the line....
i.e.
10-10-10-10
10-10-10-10
If the A bet loses ....I have a $22 loss....
And 65% of the $22 loss goes to Line 2 and 35% goes to Line 1
12-12-12-12
13.57-13.57-13.57-13.57
If B Bet loses I have a loss of $29.85
I simply divide that loss by 50% and add it to the 2 lines
and they look like this...
15.73-15.73-15.73-15.73
17.47-17.47-17.47-17.47
You can round those numbers up or down if you like....
My goal is to clear Line 1 TWICE before I increase my base wager....
So to clear Line 1 TWICE..means a Profit of $80.....so as I am
playing my lines each day....and I see a profit of $80 after a day's
games are tabulated...then I quit that particular labby regardless
of how the lines look.......
I start a NEW labby at
15-15-15-15
15-15-15-15
and you just ...wash..rinse..repeat...
A labby is just a great way to use different bet sizes to accumulate a
pre-determined profit goal...
And yes.....if you are doing
JM
Crusher
SBP
Solaman.....etc...
You should have a 2 line labby for each system you use...
Hope This Helps....Comment -
hey keep up the good work and good luck !Comment -
i haven't been on keeping up with this forum, but, you guys do have a lot of good info.
thanks guysComment -
JM
Crusher
SBP
Solaman.
these cappers have their own site?Comment -
All 3 versions in a nutshell: (based on a team starting a 3 gm. roadtrip).
V1= road tm. plays ALL 3 gms. against OPPOSITE conference tms.
V2= road tm. plays ONLY 2 of the 3 gms. against opp. conf. tms.(& 1 gm. in-conf.).
V3= road tm. EITHER plays 1 of the 3 gms. against opp. conf. tm.(& 2 gms. in- conf.), "OR", plays ALL 3 gms. against IN-CONFERENCE tms.
V ANYTHING GOES(or Vag)= Don't distinguish at all between the 3 versions, & just play ANY 3 gm. roadtrip that a tm. begins, after playing a home gm.
V1 EXCEPTIONS:
UPDATED V1's ('08-'10) state:
"I recommend that you only start betting on a series if the team’s consecutive 3-game road trip begins immediately after their home game. This also means that if a team is on a 6-game road trip vs. 6 opponents from the opposing conference, then you should only wager on the first 3 games (assuming that they played a home game immediately before starting the road trip).
Now, an exception would be that if a team has been playing road game(s) within their own conference before they start 3 consecutive games vs. 3 opponents from the opposing conference, then you should only treat the 3-game series vs. the opposing conference as eligible for play ONLY if that team has lost ALL of its road games from the beginning of the road trip by more than 3 points against the spread."
Original V1('07/'08) only states:
"One other thing to note is if your team is playing 6 games on the road vs all opponents of the different conference, then you can split that up into two different series, one beginning with the first game and one beginning with the 4th game."
More version info. on pg. 72, post # 2518.
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Winner winner, chicken dinner :-) Detroit covered the spread whether you got on at +8.5 or +10.5 (I was able to get +9.5 myself)
-SilkBCComment -
stanley...so glad you've noticed this trend. i didn't buy the points.Comment -
I have to agree, but it's Winna, winna, Original Tommy's Chili Burger!Comment -
STANLEY RULES AGAIN BELOW:
I understand that it's risky to chase teams and there are chances that you can lose series on these games. The same happens when chasing NHL teams. I realized a way that you can actually eliminate series losses. I have checked back previous seasons of NBA and NHL teams and their betting lines and it seems to make a lot of sense now. This means that there are some series games that you have to pass on, even if it wins.
So this is how it should work for both NBA:
NBA: Buy 3 points on any team that is on a consecutive road trip for at least 3 games if their next consecutive road trip for at least 3 games doesn't occur within one month later. If they are on a road trip for at least 4 games, then it stops on the "D" bet. Also, do not bet on them within a month before their last game of the season.
NHL: Bet on a team that is on a consecutive road trip for at least 3 games if their next consecutive road trip for at least 3 games doesn't occur within one month later. If they are on a road trip for at least 4 games, then it stops on the "D" bet. If they are favorites, bet on the money line. If they are underdogs, bet on the +1.5 puck line. Also, do not bet on them within a month before their last game of the season.
Here are examples in the NBA:
The Sacramento Kings series lost between 10/29/2008 and 11/3/2008. Everyone thought that you had to play a version 1 bet, which it lost, but they actually covered on against the Minnesota Timberwolves. So it's really regardless of conference and they didn't have another consecutive road trip for at least 3 games within a month after that series.
The Houston Rockets series lost between 12/23/2009 and 12/27/2009. They had a 3-game consecutive road trip within a month after that series. John Morrison made a B.S. excuse saying to bet on the money line on favorites after the Rockets lost out on that series between 12/23/2009 and 12/27/2009. So you don't bet on the first series (12/23/2009 and 12/27/2009).
The Denver Nuggets series lost between 3/23/2010 and 3/29/2010. This series occurred within a month before their last game of the season. Also, they won on the "D" bet with the 3-point buying. John Morrison said that they won on the "C" bet by playing the money line. You have to remember that you don't have to play the money line on favorites in the NBA.
The Sacramento Kings series lost between 2/17/2010 and 2/21/2010. They had a 3-game consecutive road trip within a month after that series. So you don't bet on the first series (2/17/2010 and 2/21/2010).
Here are examples in the NHL:
The St. Louis Blues series lost between 1/5/2006 and 1/15/2006. They had a 6-game series within a month after that series. So you don't bet on the first series (1/5/2006 and 1/15/2006).
The St. Louis Blues series lost between 3/16/2006 and 3/20/2006. This series occurred within a month before their last game of the season.
The Edmonton Oilers series lost between 10/22/2008 and 10/25/2008. They had a 7-game series within a month after that series. So you don't bet on the first series (10/22/2008 and 10/25/2008).
The Carolina Hurricanes series lost between 1/8/2009 and 1/13/2009. They had a 4-game series within a month after that series. So you don't bet on the first series (1/8/2009 and 1/13/2009).
The Anaheim Ducks series lost between 12/31/2009 and 1/3/2010. They had a 6-game series within a month after that series. So you don't bet on the first series (12/31/2009 and 1/3/2010).
The Dallas Stars series lost between 1/10/2010 and 1/14/2010. They had a 3-game series within a month after that series. So you don't bet on the first series (1/10/2010 and 1/14/2010).
The Anaheim Ducks series lost between 10/8/2010 and 10/11/2010. They had a 4-game series within a month after that series. So you don't bet on the first series (10/8/2010 and 10/11/2010).
So under these NBA and NHL guidelines, if teams lose on the first series, bet on them on the second series. Do not bet on them on the first series if their next consecutive road trip of at least 3 games occurs within a month later. This way, you will eliminate series losses.
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As i said earlier this the best filter for these systems and i think the guy deserve at least 2 points from everybody here....... BYE BYE
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..winna...winna....Chicken Fried Steak....dinna....
Great win with Detroit and SBP picks up another System Win with Denver....( he also had Detroit)
Big night coming up on Tuesday......
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STANLEY RULES AGAIN BELOW:
I understand that it's risky to chase teams and there are chances that you can lose series on these games. The same happens when chasing NHL teams. I realized a way that you can actually eliminate series losses. I have checked back previous seasons of NBA and NHL teams and their betting lines and it seems to make a lot of sense now. This means that there are some series games that you have to pass on, even if it wins.
So this is how it should work for both NBA:
NBA: Buy 3 points on any team that is on a consecutive road trip for at least 3 games if their next consecutive road trip for at least 3 games doesn't occur within one month later. If they are on a road trip for at least 4 games, then it stops on the "D" bet. Also, do not bet on them within a month before their last game of the season.
NHL: Bet on a team that is on a consecutive road trip for at least 3 games if their next consecutive road trip for at least 3 games doesn't occur within one month later. If they are on a road trip for at least 4 games, then it stops on the "D" bet. If they are favorites, bet on the money line. If they are underdogs, bet on the +1.5 puck line. Also, do not bet on them within a month before their last game of the season.
Here are examples in the NBA:
The Sacramento Kings series lost between 10/29/2008 and 11/3/2008. Everyone thought that you had to play a version 1 bet, which it lost, but they actually covered on against the Minnesota Timberwolves. So it's really regardless of conference and they didn't have another consecutive road trip for at least 3 games within a month after that series.
The Houston Rockets series lost between 12/23/2009 and 12/27/2009. They had a 3-game consecutive road trip within a month after that series. John Morrison made a B.S. excuse saying to bet on the money line on favorites after the Rockets lost out on that series between 12/23/2009 and 12/27/2009. So you don't bet on the first series (12/23/2009 and 12/27/2009).
The Denver Nuggets series lost between 3/23/2010 and 3/29/2010. This series occurred within a month before their last game of the season. Also, they won on the "D" bet with the 3-point buying. John Morrison said that they won on the "C" bet by playing the money line. You have to remember that you don't have to play the money line on favorites in the NBA.
The Sacramento Kings series lost between 2/17/2010 and 2/21/2010. They had a 3-game consecutive road trip within a month after that series. So you don't bet on the first series (2/17/2010 and 2/21/2010).
Here are examples in the NHL:
The St. Louis Blues series lost between 1/5/2006 and 1/15/2006. They had a 6-game series within a month after that series. So you don't bet on the first series (1/5/2006 and 1/15/2006).
The St. Louis Blues series lost between 3/16/2006 and 3/20/2006. This series occurred within a month before their last game of the season.
The Edmonton Oilers series lost between 10/22/2008 and 10/25/2008. They had a 7-game series within a month after that series. So you don't bet on the first series (10/22/2008 and 10/25/2008).
The Carolina Hurricanes series lost between 1/8/2009 and 1/13/2009. They had a 4-game series within a month after that series. So you don't bet on the first series (1/8/2009 and 1/13/2009).
The Anaheim Ducks series lost between 12/31/2009 and 1/3/2010. They had a 6-game series within a month after that series. So you don't bet on the first series (12/31/2009 and 1/3/2010).
The Dallas Stars series lost between 1/10/2010 and 1/14/2010. They had a 3-game series within a month after that series. So you don't bet on the first series (1/10/2010 and 1/14/2010).
The Anaheim Ducks series lost between 10/8/2010 and 10/11/2010. They had a 4-game series within a month after that series. So you don't bet on the first series (10/8/2010 and 10/11/2010).
So under these NBA and NHL guidelines, if teams lose on the first series, bet on them on the second series. Do not bet on them on the first series if their next consecutive road trip of at least 3 games occurs within a month later. This way, you will eliminate series losses.
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As i said earlier this the best filter for these systems and i think the guy deserve at least 2 points from everybody here....... BYE BYE
Dont like these " filters "......all they do is FILTER profit
from your acct......
By NOT betting every team when they go on a 3 game road trip
just means you are throwing money out the window.....
Ya gotta play if ya wanna win...........
Oh Yeah............Comment -
Investing in a team when they go on a 3 Game Road Trip is 41-2 in System Wins......
No silly Filters....No buying points.....no headache from figuring out if its V 1 V 2 or V3
No chasing.....No JM BS.....No stress......No Nothing.....
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..just sayin....Comment -
01/04
TPS Detroit [C wager] * i think its a C wager for TPS tomorrow. Looking back at their past results unless today was a C wager for TPS on Detroit. Im not sure what the money line was today though. They have lost their two previous double digit games ATS even with 3pts. Lost on 12/01/10 to 72-97 with a 11pt spread. They also lost to new Orleans with 10pt spread on the 8th, so i believe Detroit vs LAC tomorrow at +16 is a C bet.
John Morrison
v3: OKC +1 vs mem (after buying 3pts) [B wager]
v1: SAS -2 vs nyk[A wager]
v1: Por (spread not up yet) vs Dallas [ A wager]
v1: Tortonto +12 vs Chicago
I like the A wagers so i will actually be betting on them today.
*As wilba said these A wagers are bound to pick up soon.
*note these A wagers could be played separately from the actual system if that makes sense.Comment -
YES U'RE RIGHT (Detroit "C" bet), I HAVE IT NOTED DOWN SINCE DECEMBER....
you can check previous and current money-line link through here: http://www.scoresandodds.com/grid_20....html?sort=rotComment -
thanks for posting j.m. discipleDO WORK + KROW OD
do work! do work! do work! do work!
od krow! od krow! od krow! od krow!
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....I would seem to think that if one was really serious in making
money from this NBA system.........
...they would already have their own spreadsheet with all the plays
for that month.....in front of them every morning................
I would hate to have to rely on someone else posting plays that I would bet on......
I would wonder if the plays were complete and accurate.......
When you have your own spreadsheet....there are no questions....
,,,but, Hey...thats just me...................................... ............just sayin....Comment -
Alright I decided I need more discipline and since I seem to keep picking bad days to follow certain players such as SJ55 (who is 3-12 his last 15 bets) im going to stick with what I know to be profitable and listen to myself and Wilba for the most part.
Only going to be following John Morrison's B and C bets for now on. B wagers ill risk 6.5% of my bankroll. C wagers ill risk 18.5%, so per series ill only be risking 25% total of my bankroll.
Also I noticed if we applied Stanely's rules of not betting on a team if they have a game within 1 month after, then we would have only lost 1 series so far. Also apply the filter do not bet on a team if their series is their first road series of the season. Two important filters from what I understand.
With those two filters applies, if we had known of them before hand, then we would be up +40 units or more.
For now on I will only be following JM B and C wagers, TPS (ill be flat betting double digit under dogs of his system 2% of my bankroll), and SBP orginal system.
*if someone has a link for his spread sheet on the updated system I would greatly appreciate it. its hard to tell which ones are B and C wagers.Comment -
NBA JM system B 6.5% and C 18.5% wagers
Starting Bankroll $1,000
Series 1: $65 to win $38
New Bankroll $1,038
Series 2: $67 to win $39
New Bankroll: $1077
Series 3: $70 to win $41
New Bankroll roll: $1147
Series 4: $74 to win $45
New Bankroll: $1221
Series 5: $79 to win $46
New Bankroll: $1,300
Series 6: $84 to win $49
New Bankroll: $1349
Series 7: $87 to win $51
New Bankroll: $1400
Series 8: $91 to win $53
New Bankroll: $1453
Series 9: $94 to win $55
New Bankroll: $1508
Series 10: $98 to win $57
New Bankroll: $1565
series 11: $101 to win $59
New Bankroll: $1624
Series 12: $105 to win $61
New Bankroll: $1685
series 13: $109 to win $64
New Bankroll: $1749
Series 14: $113 to win $66
New Bankroll: $1815
series 15: $117 to win $68
New Bankroll: $1883
Series 16: $122 to win $71
New Bankroll: $1954
Series 17: $127 to win $74
New Bankroll: $2028
This Goes to show by using 6.5% on B and 18.5% on C or whatever it takes to cover your B losses and show the same profit after buying 3 pts (-170 odds for the most part on betus) You Can double your bankroll after 17 series. We have 95 series wagers left for John Morrison. This means if you only follow his system and he goes undefeated rest of your way you can turn a $1,000 bankroll into
After 17 series $2000
After 34 series $4000
After 51 series $8000
after 68 series $16000
After 85 series $32,000
Maybe my math is off on this... but lets cross our fingers and hope he goes undefeated rest of this season. Once I start winning say $200 per series Ill probably cap my unit margin off there.Comment -
Hi JM disciple, I appreciate your contributions to the thread and think you are a great guy, but I have been forced to say, a number of times now, PLEASE be careful with posting incorrect information - if you are not sure about a play then please do not post it, as this is very misleading to other people that read the thread. It is quite possible that some people today may have made a (losing) play on GSW, thinking that they were a TPS play due to your post, but they were not a TPS play.
TPS play teams must open their ML at +500 or more. GSW did NOT open at +500 or greater (for ML) and was hence not a play.
To be a TPS play, must be +9 dog or greater AND +500 ML dog or greater. Both of these rules must hold true when the lines open and throughout the day. No 'book except for one (matchbook) opened GSW at +500 or more. All other books opened at +4 hundred and something.Comment -
JM disciple in your above post you are not taking into account that only ~40% of JM series make it to the B wager. To play 85 series' when only playing from B you will have to wait an average of 212 series in total to get the 85 series' which you actually play.
In your post just above that one, you asked if anyone had a spreadsheet for a certain system's plays. The way I interpret it, you are talking about either SBP or TPS. For both these systems it is not possible to create a spreadsheet with upcoming plays. You only know if there is a play on the actual day of the game, as both of these systems depend of what line the sportsbooks release.Comment -
What is sooooo damn hard to figure out......
SYSTEM WINS
3 Game NBA Road 42-2
SBP Original 30-2
SBP Updated 30-2
Basketball CRUSHER 38-1
Hockey CRUSHER 37-0
Solaman 50-0
227-7
And yea...stay away from guys like SJ55...he is just
a spot player....he doesnt give you a 3 game system
You will make your money with 3 game sequences with a
good money management method......you cannot chase...
More profit in a 3 game system......Comment -
Sorry, I listed GSW as a play because on betus.com I seen the ML at like +550 when I looked at it. I also bet on GSW thinking it was a play. As I said before though im just flat betting it. I Need to start checking ML opens then. I thought it would be a play if it was +9 and +500 or more during any point of the day. I was misinformed in therefor misinformed others as well.
Earlier when we spoke a couple weeks back, when we talked about betting 11+ pt underdogs and buying 3pts, that 61% without buying 3pts had nothing to do with Money line correct?
The spread sheet I was talking about would be similar to this one:
this link shows the orginal system for SBP. I am looking for a spread sheet concerning the updated system. I am not looking for a spread sheet of future bets, just past bets, so that when they are posted daily, I will know if its A B or C.Comment -
Yes, you are absolutely right about having 85 series and winning so much money... I wasn't even thinking about A bets winning just going to B and C every series. I guess im a little tired and not thinking straight. Its good information though to see how your bankroll can grow so fast over the next couple seasons.Comment
u been following his plays long?
