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  • jphil
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 07-12-09
    • 757

    #1646
    Originally posted by Stevier100
    This is what i was trying to show in the picture attachment with this post
    thanx. that was an opportunity for me to double check whether betus did indeed change my status away from jm a couple of wks. ago. My line still stands at -175(before & after login).

    i'm still gettin -170 if 3 pts. are bought. Out of curiosity, do ya get the same?
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    • Wilba
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 10-29-10
      • 702

      #1647
      [QUOTE=jphil;7710677]
      Originally posted by rickbo528



      OT: i hear ya. Still curious if ANYONE has the beginning rpi's of those losing tms. @ the time? i still seem to think that there were at least 2 tms. that could have been eliminated from play if using jm's orig. .010 rpi filter. Probably most people (incl. myself) just chucked their mlb records out of disgust. Maybe i'll go through all the 2010 mlb posts for a clue.
      I am now thinking that 2/4 (maybe)? would have been cut out with the 0.01 filter, not 1/4. Cant tell you for sure though. There was definately one or two where the double swept losing teams RPI was definitely higher than the team that double swept them. (refer angels v Bmore)
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      • Wilba
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 10-29-10
        • 702

        #1648
        Originally posted by jphil
        Fair enough, and ya didn't misunderstand the question. If ya have no stats on the A/B's only, when i'm blindly assuming that they have the better winning %'s based on the more plays, then so be it. Thanx for the opinion.
        Researched it. These stats are 100% correct. If you played only a 2 game chase on all V1/V2 A/B bets (buying 3 points) since 2005 your record would be: 367 WINS FOR 53 LOSSES (WIN % OF 367/420 = 87.38%). When buying 3 points and paying -170 a 2 game chase will cost you 6.29 units. Hence 367 WINS x 1 unit = +367 units. 53 losses x 6.29 units = -333.37.

        This gives a total unit profit/loss of 367-333 units = +34 units (pretty paltry over 5 years)

        if you did the same method but with B/C 2 game chase your results would be 152 WINS FOR 9 LOSSES (WIN % of 152/161 = 94.41 %). Hence 152 wins x 1 unit = +152 units, 9 losses x 6.29 units = - 56.61 units.

        This gives a total profit/loss of 152-57 units = +95 units (basically 3 x more profit, even with well under half the action).

        This clearly shows why if you did choose to play only 2 games, you would be crazy to go near the A's instead of playing B/C.

        Also please note that with a 2 game 'chase' you can play to win 3.5 times what you can play to win in a 3 game chase, while risking the same amount. So if you risked the same amount / series as what you do currently on a 3 game series, then each of the unit amounts above is = to 3.5 x whatever you play to win now.

        Hope that answers your question as it comprehensively shows the diff in quality between A and C bets. cheers
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        • Stevier100
          SBR Rookie
          • 11-19-10
          • 42

          #1649
          Originally posted by jphil
          thanx. that was an opportunity for me to double check whether betus did indeed change my status away from jm a couple of wks. ago. My line still stands at -175(before & after login).

          i'm still gettin -170 if 3 pts. are bought. Out of curiosity, do ya get the same?

          It was -170 for 3 points but because it was -4 i did the moneyline but when i logged in it went from -175 to -190 so i waited till the off to see if it would change and it did and got the moneyline at -170 straight win!!

          Steve
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          • Stevier100
            SBR Rookie
            • 11-19-10
            • 42

            #1650
            Hi wilba< I'm with you fella on the B & C bets, is it possible you can check and see whats the largest run of A bet losses in a row just doing A bets using labby to small stakes?

            Cheers
            Steve
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            • thebestthereis
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 03-01-09
              • 11459

              #1651
              only thing matters is inside information, if you don't got it you have squat. period exclamation point.
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              • jmjj
                SBR High Roller
                • 11-17-10
                • 172

                #1652
                [QUOTE=rickbo528;7710393]
                Originally posted by jphil
                OT: MLB:



                I remember the July 26th Angel series well. I traveled to Vegas to bet the Marlins and Angel series. I lost a boatload of money on the Angels that week. that was the last JM baseball wager I made last season. Haven't really been playing his NBA plays either. All it takes is one series loss to ruin you. NEVER AGAIN.
                yeah I know what u mean rickbo b/c remember this one series loss equals 10 straight up losses in general so if we lost 4 times this past mlb season then that means we lost 4 series which equals 40 games we lost like wow mlb sucked this season for sure its unusual b/c 2009 was good
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                • jmjj
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 11-17-10
                  • 172

                  #1653
                  [QUOTE=jphil;7710677]
                  Originally posted by rickbo528



                  OT: i hear ya. Still curious if ANYONE has the beginning rpi's of those losing tms. @ the time? i still seem to think that there were at least 2 tms. that could have been eliminated from play if using jm's orig. .010 rpi filter. Probably most people (incl. myself) just chucked their mlb records out of disgust. Maybe i'll go through all the 2010 mlb posts for a clue.
                  hard to find that out jphil but I do know after the Pirates series I constantly checked it before and in between the series to make sure they all were right to bet and they were but the Pirates series he changed to fit his reasoning which has been everyones f ucking compliant against this clown b/c he never wants to admit losing unless he has no way he can f ucking manpuliate it to his advantage to get out of it like when the Giants lost which sucks even more b/c they started us off wrong and they f ucking go win the World Series how nice of them to be losers for us when we need them to win any rate doesnt matter now
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                  • jmjj
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 11-17-10
                    • 172

                    #1654
                    Originally posted by Stevier100
                    This is what i was trying to show in the picture attachment with this post
                    hey stevier u are going to continue to get that plus I cant view your jpeg is too small but doesnt matter I know what u are experiencing please go back and view my post #1542 that I addressed to u then to understand what is going on I addressed it a few weeks ago -)
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                    • JW Cash
                      SBR MVP
                      • 12-31-08
                      • 4453

                      #1655
                      Originally posted by Wilba
                      Researched it. These stats are 100% correct. If you played only a 2 game chase on all V1/V2 A/B bets (buying 3 points) since 2005 your record would be: 367 WINS FOR 53 LOSSES (WIN % OF 367/420 = 87.38%). When buying 3 points and paying -170 a 2 game chase will cost you 6.29 units. Hence 367 WINS x 1 unit = +367 units. 53 losses x 6.29 units = -333.37.

                      This gives a total unit profit/loss of 367-333 units = +34 units (pretty paltry over 5 years)

                      if you did the same method but with B/C 2 game chase your results would be 152 WINS FOR 9 LOSSES (WIN % of 152/161 = 94.41 %). Hence 152 wins x 1 unit = +152 units, 9 losses x 6.29 units = - 56.61 units.

                      This gives a total profit/loss of 152-57 units = +95 units (basically 3 x more profit, even with well under half the action).

                      This clearly shows why if you did choose to play only 2 games, you would be crazy to go near the A's instead of playing B/C.

                      Also please note that with a 2 game 'chase' you can play to win 3.5 times what you can play to win in a 3 game chase, while risking the same amount. So if you risked the same amount / series as what you do currently on a 3 game series, then each of the unit amounts above is = to 3.5 x whatever you play to win now.

                      Hope that answers your question as it comprehensively shows the diff in quality between A and C bets. cheers

                      I hear what you are saying.....

                      But I like to use a compounding variable as soon as possible......

                      I used to use a DAILY compounding variable when I was
                      flat betting....

                      I would say have a starting bank of $1000...and each daily wager
                      would be 2% of that $1000.....

                      If at the end of the day, the bank was $1150...next day,
                      each daily wager would be 2% of $1150....

                      If the bank at the end of the day was $875...the wagers
                      would be 2% of that amount.....

                      I am a strong believer in the compounding effect and to
                      implement it as quickly as possible....

                      I still use that method occasionally when I am not doing
                      a 3 game chase sequence...

                      With a Labourchere line of

                      50-50-50-50
                      50-50-50-50

                      I will increase my initial bet amount after I " clear "
                      Line 1 TWICE....in the example, that would be $400.

                      So, regardless what my lines look like....whenever
                      I am at $400 profit for that line......at the end of a
                      day....that line is finished....and I increase my initial
                      wager amount with a new labby line...

                      Again...taking advantage of the compouding effect..

                      Imagine Wilba what your 5 year example would look like after
                      a rapid compounding of profit.......

                      Yea......thats what I'm talking about......
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                      • jphil
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 07-12-09
                        • 757

                        #1656
                        Originally posted by Wilba
                        Researched it. These stats are 100% correct. If you played only a 2 game chase on all V1/V2 A/B bets (buying 3 points) since 2005 your record would be: 367 WINS FOR 53 LOSSES (WIN % OF 367/420 = 87.38%). When buying 3 points and paying -170 a 2 game chase will cost you 6.29 units. Hence 367 WINS x 1 unit = +367 units. 53 losses x 6.29 units = -333.37.

                        This gives a total unit profit/loss of 367-333 units = +34 units (pretty paltry over 5 years)

                        if you did the same method but with B/C 2 game chase your results would be 152 WINS FOR 9 LOSSES (WIN % of 152/161 = 94.41 %). Hence 152 wins x 1 unit = +152 units, 9 losses x 6.29 units = - 56.61 units.

                        This gives a total profit/loss of 152-57 units = +95 units (basically 3 x more profit, even with well under half the action).

                        This clearly shows why if you did choose to play only 2 games, you would be crazy to go near the A's instead of playing B/C.

                        Also please note that with a 2 game 'chase' you can play to win 3.5 times what you can play to win in a 3 game chase, while risking the same amount. So if you risked the same amount / series as what you do currently on a 3 game series, then each of the unit amounts above is = to 3.5 x whatever you play to win now.

                        Hope that answers your question as it comprehensively shows the diff in quality between A and C bets. cheers


                        WILBA: What about stats on v1 only? How about ML only stats on both versions combined, & separately? What about A & C stats (ML & w/ pts.) only on v1 & v2 separately, & combined? Can it be used in NHL(v1 only)? How's about MLB? Give us more!


                        Just kiddin guy! You're to be commended. Just FYI, i've been playin the B/C's. I'd believe anything at this pt. in order to make it a 2 gm. chase only! pts. bro!

                        p.s. how's about fadin B & C, if A wins?

                        p.s.s. Still need an in home, private tutor, for a full semester w/ the labby sys. And i did pretty good in private school 37 yrs. ago! Calculus was kind of a bitch (if there's even still such a subject). Maybe the labby is better w/ a 3 gm. chase sys.?
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                        • lilb999
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 11-13-10
                          • 997

                          #1657
                          Did portalnd really just lose to philly....WTF
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                          • edh1011
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 08-02-09
                            • 907

                            #1658
                            8 pts in the 4th qtr. bunch of sorry fuckers!!!
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                            • jphil
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 07-12-09
                              • 757

                              #1659
                              Originally posted by Stevier100
                              It was -170 for 3 points but because it was -4 i did the moneyline but when i logged in it went from -175 to -190 so i waited till the off to see if it would change and it did and got the moneyline at -170 straight win!!

                              Steve
                              That's great! i put mine in at 6:55 eastern. Good patience! (& possibly a waste of both our times).
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                              • bauerranch
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 08-01-10
                                • 611

                                #1660
                                Does not look good
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                                • jmjj
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 11-17-10
                                  • 172

                                  #1661
                                  Originally posted by lilb999
                                  Did portalnd really just lose to philly....WTF
                                  F UCK YOUUUUUUUU PORTLAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! u pieces of s hit I mean I only parlayed them for a 2 teamer for a win is all no big deal f ucking outrageous man who scroes f ucking 8pts in 11 mins in the f ucking 4th quarter? who does that shit?

                                  how nice of the timing we finally lose our first b bet of the yr on my dime I am about to say **** Johns system v1.0 and simply roll with James Jones system more plays and more A bet wins starting with the Pistons leading most of the game against Orlando and f ucking Portland cant beat the lowly 76ers get the f uck out of here makes me puke
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                                  • lilb999
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 11-13-10
                                    • 997

                                    #1662
                                    Id rather just put my money on the Portland (C) bet for the spurs tonight...Portland makes me sick
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                                    • edh1011
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 08-02-09
                                      • 907

                                      #1663
                                      Originally posted by jmjj
                                      F UCK YOUUUUUUUU PORTLAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! u pieces of s hit I mean I only parlayed them for a 2 teamer for a win is all no big deal f ucking outrageous man who scroes f ucking 8pts in 11 mins in the f ucking 4th quarter? who does that shit?

                                      how nice of the timing we finally lose our first b bet of the yr on my dime I am about to say **** Johns system v1.0 and simply roll with James Jones system more plays and more A bet wins starting with the Pistons leading most of the game against Orlando and f ucking Portland cant beat the lowly 76ers get the f uck out of here makes me puke
                                      what's the james jones system???
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                                      • jphil
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 07-12-09
                                        • 757

                                        #1664
                                        is the spread large enough for tomorrows C match vs. bost.? (+7.5)
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                                        • edh1011
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 08-02-09
                                          • 907

                                          #1665
                                          Originally posted by jphil
                                          is the spread large enough for tomorrows C match vs. bost.? (+7.5)
                                          i wouldn't waste anymore time with portland. they are clearly in a slump and can't score pts.
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                                          • jphil
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 07-12-09
                                            • 757

                                            #1666
                                            we've had worse, i'm sure. COVER!!!!!!
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                                            • lilb999
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 11-13-10
                                              • 997

                                              #1667
                                              you know your teams in a slump when you cant beat New Jersey or Philly...

                                              11 points in the 4th...I thought Roy is an All-star?
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                                              • Dutch Royalty
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 07-15-10
                                                • 134

                                                #1668
                                                hows jm doing this year?
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                                                • jphil
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 07-12-09
                                                  • 757

                                                  #1669
                                                  Originally posted by edh1011
                                                  what's the james jones system???
                                                  wasn't he that CULT guy from way back?
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                                                  • stevex
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 05-02-10
                                                    • 5122

                                                    #1670
                                                    If you're doing a labby then you have NOTHING to worry about with the [C] bet tomorrow on Portland.
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                                                    • JW Cash
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 12-31-08
                                                      • 4453

                                                      #1671
                                                      Originally posted by edh1011
                                                      what's the james jones system???



                                                      That system is simple......

                                                      You bet the team with the sexiest cheerleaders......

                                                      You put your ENTIRE bankroll on the wager.....

                                                      If you WIN.....you bask in the glorious warm sunshine of the tropics....

                                                      If you LOSE....you have a cup of purple kool-aid as soon as possible...
                                                      ...and forget about it...........simply forget about everything...........
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                                                      • jphil
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 07-12-09
                                                        • 757

                                                        #1672
                                                        ok. i give up. so who's gonna empty the worm can as far as jim jones? i'll be patient.
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                                                        • edh1011
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 08-02-09
                                                          • 907

                                                          #1673
                                                          there is a james jones thread on here. just search it. it's called nba triple play system. something about betting on heavy ass underdogs. which means you will be betting on crappy teams. it's another chase system that claims to have been perfect last season.
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                                                          • jphil
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 07-12-09
                                                            • 757

                                                            #1674
                                                            [quote=jmjj;7711401]
                                                            Originally posted by jphil
                                                            hard to find that out jphil but I do know after the Pirates series I constantly checked it before and in between the series to make sure they all were right to bet and they were but the Pirates series he changed to fit his reasoning which has been everyones f ucking compliant against this clown b/c he never wants to admit losing unless he has no way he can f ucking manpuliate it to his advantage to get out of it like when the Giants lost which sucks even more b/c they started us off wrong and they f ucking go win the World Series how nice of them to be losers for us when we need them to win any rate doesnt matter now
                                                            i know. past rpi's are a bitch to get hold of. Pitt. & even Giants ring a bell though. i'll be rescanning the 79 mlb/jm pgs. for the next wk. or so & hopefully get back to ya.

                                                            Oh!? the giants won the series? sorry, i was in deep depression after the phils 1 pt. loss to 'em in gm. 6 of the nlds. my bad.
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                                                            • jphil
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 07-12-09
                                                              • 757

                                                              #1675
                                                              thanx edh: i'll definately get to that on a sunny day. thanx again.
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                                                              • jmjj
                                                                SBR High Roller
                                                                • 11-17-10
                                                                • 172

                                                                #1676
                                                                Originally posted by edh1011
                                                                there is a james jones thread on here. just search it. it's called nba triple play system. something about betting on heavy ass underdogs. which means you will be betting on crappy teams. it's another chase system that claims to have been perfect last season.
                                                                its a good system trust me found about it a mos ago legit no bs and yes it s a 3 game system but not something to diss or u can I dont care and most of that James Jones thread are just f ucking pricks to deal with if u ask a question more than once they dont wanna deal with u so be warned if u have questions and dont wanna ask here b/c it will take up the wrong thread just message me and I will answer about James system its in my opinion better than Johns James A bet won tonight for us by covering while Johns b bet couldnt get it f ucking done enough said -)
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                                                                • knugen
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 12-09-09
                                                                  • 2612

                                                                  #1677
                                                                  Portland seems to be really bad
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                                                                  • jmjj
                                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                                    • 11-17-10
                                                                    • 172

                                                                    #1678
                                                                    Originally posted by knugen
                                                                    Portland seems to be really bad
                                                                    yeah I prefer my post to describe them knugen lol they are absolutely f ucking lame it is absolutely unexcuseable for a professional NBA team to score 11 pts in one quarter of a close game I had that happne another time last yr I believe when the Warriors didnt get the over b/c they scored like 9 or 10 pts in the 4th wtf??????????
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                                                                    • jphil
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 07-12-09
                                                                      • 757

                                                                      #1679
                                                                      there's always D bet on wiz's if necc.
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                                                                      • jphil
                                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                                        • 07-12-09
                                                                        • 757

                                                                        #1680
                                                                        OT: for those who have a tendency to repeat 6 posts in a row while trying to only transfer 2 pts. initially(one time); when ya see the box indcating "TRANSFERRING", go to the top of the pg. & click "REFRESH". This will avoid transferring 12 pts. when it could have been just 2 pts. That way ya don't have to humble yourself & ask for the other 10 pts. back. Just a trick of the trade for those who were'nt aware. Ya could wait a whole day sometimes for the damn thing to finally transfer.
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