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hagball52SBR MVP
- 09-22-10
- 3053
#6406Comment -
FreddoSBR Hustler
- 04-11-10
- 63
#6407SPURS -700 ML way to much I am also going to watch and work on MLBComment -
hagball52SBR MVP
- 09-22-10
- 3053
#6408Flipped you a couple. Hah, caught the Jazz and then re read the rules. The'yll prob be next. I expect the Spurs to get it today. GLComment -
krzychu78SBR Sharp
- 01-08-10
- 291
#6409JM's NBA system (injury filter and ML filter are not applied):
03/31/2011 Boston @ San Antonio- V2, C bet - WIN
V1record so far (finished series): 57-3
(A): 30-30
(B): 22-8
(C): 5-3
Lost series:
PHO 11/17-20
DET 12/07-10
UTA 01/17-21
V2 record so far (finished series): 30-1
(A): 17-14
(B): 5-9
(C): 8-1
Lost series:
MIN 10/30-11/03
V3 record so far (finished series): 61-3
(A): 36-27-1 (W-L-P)
(B): 21-7-1 (W-L-P)
(C): 5-2-1 (W-L-P)
Lost series:
CLE 12/04-07
TOR 01/29-02/02 (B bet and C bet were pushes according to covers.com)
GS 03/18-21
Next JM's plays:
04/03/2011 Phoenix @ San Antonio- V3, A bet
04/05/2011 Milwaukee @ Orlando- V3, A bet
04/05/2011 LA Clippers @ Memphis- V3, A bet
04/05/2011 Sacramento @ Houston- V3, A bet
04/06/2011 New York @ Philadelphia- V3, A bet
04/08/2011 Chicago @ Cleveland- V3, A betComment -
Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-01-11
- 7261
#6410Spurs?? -10?? How did they come up with this line?? Losers of 6 in a row and 4 ATS but they are favored by a TD and a FG? I guess they think that highly of S. Nash. ML is way too much juice for me. Guess I'm sitting this one out even though I played them the other night. Good Luck everyone.Comment -
Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-01-11
- 7261
#6411Chase 110 - Plays for 4/3/11
2010-11 System to date: 79-0
System Rules can be found in post #5000
System Backtest can be found in post #5000
Phoenix @ San Antonio Spurs (M/L) (A) *1:00 PM EDT start time*
If San Antonio wins at 1:00 PM on the (M/L), then there will be another play this evening:
Utah Jazz (+6) @ Sacramento (A) *6:05 PM EDT start time*Comment -
Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-01-11
- 7261
#6412I was going to post that after San Antonio game ended , to avoid any confusion. But I just realized that Utah was a 6:05 game, and I better give people some notice.Comment -
teeceeSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-18-09
- 6298
#6413i'm on the jazz +6.5 (hook buy), regardless of the outcome in the san antonio affair. i'm playing for a mere 12 to win 10. no biggie.
13 to win 10, behind the spurs. i'm definitely not a high roller.Comment -
Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-01-11
- 7261
#6414That's cool, but there is the potential for Utah and San Antonio to face each other in their respective (D) bets. For that reason alone, is why Utah wasn't an official play as of yet. However, San Antonio is destroying Phoenix, so start checking yor Utah lines, everyone.Comment -
teeceeSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-18-09
- 6298
#6415i'm up 90 this week. that's why i'm playing the jazz.Comment -
oklahomaSBR Wise Guy
- 11-22-10
- 602
#6416and spurs crush the suns, bol on utah tonight.Comment -
hagball52SBR MVP
- 09-22-10
- 3053
#6417Today going good so far. Played SAS on pointspread and won now I got 'em on a teaser with HOU. Hope to cash both. Good job Wallco.Comment -
Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-01-11
- 7261
#6418Chase 110 - Plays for 4/3/11
2010-11 System to date: 80-0
System Rules can be found in post #5000
System Backtest can be found in post #5000
San Antonio (M/L) - Win
Utah Jazz (+6 ½) @ Sacramento (A)Comment -
J.M. DiscipleSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-16-10
- 5154
#6419I just thought of another system using labby that can make a $hit ton of money$!$!$!$!$!$!$!$!
I need someone to talk to on aim that uses labby to make sure im doing it right. There are a ton of bets with this system a crazy amount of bets, so action is never dull! Very easy simple to follow, but i need someone to talk to about it, to make sure im doing it, so i can figure out how many units I can make on this system before i post any results..
someone please pM me and i can explain the details of this system. very simple, but i need someone who uses labby for it to work, it wont work with chase method.
who ever wants to help PM me or preferable aim me @ Austin J BatyeComment -
hagball52SBR MVP
- 09-22-10
- 3053
#6420Lucky for me I missed the Utah bet. Hope to cash on the [B].Comment -
J.M. DiscipleSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-16-10
- 5154
#6421I heard Labby only has to win about 48% of the time in order to show a profit. I believe it was JW cash who told me this, not sure of who it was that said it though. I have been looking at the unders for all the teams in the NBA and a 3game chase or even a 4 game chase won't work for this "under system."
I was thinking with the labby we could literally bet on every single game for every single team using the labby and show a profit betting the unders. I think public usually roots for the overs, so that helps the line hit under more often then not. I seen a few times where it did it about 7 straight overs, but even the labby can handle that if managed correctly.
So this is what I have so far. I am not sure how to exactly keep track of it yet or what kind of bankroll I would need for such a thing, but i believe it would be extremely profitable to do so, so my example of this would be to use a labby such as this:
5-5-5-5
*after 4 losses I would compound the line from
5 - 5- 5 -5 10 - 15 - 20 - 25
to this: 20- 20 - 20 - 20
and continue from there. the line would eventually get cleared and shouldn't have to compound it more then once in order to clear some of these lines. I just need to go through all the teams using this method to figure out how many units it could actually make.
question #1) What do you think is the best way to use labby? Should I wait for a longer stretch of more then 4 games before I compound it? I thought about doing 2 seperate labby lines for each team, but i think 1 labby line should be efficient. I also thought about compounding it after 3 losses instead of 4 or possible compound it even after 2 losses.
Question #2) Do you even think this is a profitable method? Ill do some testing on this tomorrow night using the basketball teams from this year and find out.
question #3) When doing this if my line is 5 - 5 - 5 -5 im risking $10 on the first bet to win like $9 per say and not betting to win $10 correct? I think you can do it either way, but i prefer to risk the amount rather then win that amount because it should be easier to keep track of.
Question #4) how do yo u keep your record / stats using the labby? Do you keep an excel sheet a long the side of a word document where you do your labby? I think it would be tedious to do it this way with a lot of # crunching, but i believe this is necessary.
Please get back to me on this. Thank YOu.
it doesn't feel like im doing labby correctly. Because if im doing $5 to say win $4 i will show a small profit doing so, but what about the times, say on another system when ever you do a ML bet and the last bet you loss was say $20, so your following bet is $25 but money line is like -150 so its $25 to win $12.50, that doesn't seem like it is making up for the losses using labby.
please help me with this labby thing. I would like to RIsk the 1st and last #2 on my labby lines so its easier to keep track of, rather then bet to win that amount because it wouldn't be as clean or look as clean betting to win the 1st and last # on the labby line. I hope that makes sense.Comment -
ghislaineSBR MVP
- 11-14-10
- 1131
#6422haha grrr, missed the first spurs win and we lost the jazz... but hey, we`ll cover the next.
doing labby, will bounce right backComment -
ghislaineSBR MVP
- 11-14-10
- 1131
#6423JM Disciple, I have always used labby, so can answer those questions. When it comes to the plays, still learning the ropes.
MM (money management) is my forte, coming from a day trading background into betting.
I use one labby line and always always BET TO WIN.
This is important, it is the only way the labouchere works, because the juice and odds keep shifting.
In order to have made up for the losses cent for cent, You need to bet to win.
I use just one line, and instead of compounding up, I rather divide and extend...
but not sure if this works for Your system, works for me using JM, Chase 110 and Crusher
so 5-5-5-5 and four losses ( has not happened to me yet !! )
5-5-5-5-10-15-20-25 ( now remember, it would not look really like this because of shifting juice,
might be more like 5-5-5-5-9,60-17.40-18-28.63 or something like that... when betting to win)
I would not do 20-20-20-20 but rather 8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8
This is just to be safe, will take longer to clear but keeps emotions in check and You in the game
Not sure if this helped, but great luck to all Your endeavoursComment -
Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-01-11
- 7261
#6424Chase 110
2010-11 System to date: 80-0
System Rules can be found in post #5000
System Backtest can be found in post #5000
(4/3/11) San Antonio (M/L) (A) – Win
(4/3/11) Utah (+6 ½) (A) - Loss
(A) 45-36
(B) 21-14
(C) 8-6
(D) 6-0
There are no system plays for (4/4/11)
Next games:
(4/5/11) Utah Jazz @ L.A. Lakers (B)
(4/5/11) Minnesota Timberwolves @ New Jersey (A)Comment -
GGPLAYERSBR MVP
- 03-26-09
- 2981
#6425
Prime example of not out thinking the system. I still let my emotions get the best of me at times. I believe SA realized it's do or die time if they want to keep LAL out of that top spot in the West. Seems like SA and Bos age are hurting them down the strecth. These guys are spurtering this last month of the season.Comment -
RAKSBR High Roller
- 11-29-10
- 237
#6426Thanks for the info. I had the same question do you BET TO WIN or BET TO RISK? Bet to win makes more sense, but i wasnt sure. Thanks
JM Disciple, I have always used labby, so can answer those questions. When it comes to the plays, still learning the ropes.
MM (money management) is my forte, coming from a day trading background into betting.
I use one labby line and always always BET TO WIN.
This is important, it is the only way the labouchere works, because the juice and odds keep shifting.
In order to have made up for the losses cent for cent, You need to bet to win.
I use just one line, and instead of compounding up, I rather divide and extend...
but not sure if this works for Your system, works for me using JM, Chase 110 and Crusher
so 5-5-5-5 and four losses ( has not happened to me yet !! )
5-5-5-5-10-15-20-25 ( now remember, it would not look really like this because of shifting juice,
might be more like 5-5-5-5-9,60-17.40-18-28.63 or something like that... when betting to win)
I would not do 20-20-20-20 but rather 8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8
This is just to be safe, will take longer to clear but keeps emotions in check and You in the game
Not sure if this helped, but great luck to all Your endeavoursComment -
DANO74SBR High Roller
- 09-08-10
- 221
#6427No plays today but tomorrow we've got a full slateComment -
ghislaineSBR MVP
- 11-14-10
- 1131
#6428haha, boohoooredCrusher has some for me !!
Yup tomorrow, what three JM and two Chase 110..Comment -
krzychu78SBR Sharp
- 01-08-10
- 291
#6429JM's NBA system (injury filter and ML filter are not applied):
04/03/2011 Phoenix @ San Antonio- V3, A bet - LOSS
V1record so far (finished series): 57-3
(A): 30-30
(B): 22-8
(C): 5-3
Lost series:
PHO 11/17-20
DET 12/07-10
UTA 01/17-21
V2 record so far (finished series): 30-1
(A): 17-14
(B): 5-9
(C): 8-1
Lost series:
MIN 10/30-11/03
V3 record so far (finished series): 61-3
(A): 36-27-1 (W-L-P)
(B): 21-7-1 (W-L-P)
(C): 5-2-1 (W-L-P)
Lost series:
CLE 12/04-07
TOR 01/29-02/02 (B bet and C bet were pushes according to covers.com)
GS 03/18-21
Next JM's plays:
04/05/2011 Milwaukee @ Orlando- V3, A bet
04/05/2011 LA Clippers @ Memphis- V3, A bet
04/05/2011 Sacramento @ Houston- V3, A bet
04/05/2011 Phoenix @ Chicago- V3, B bet
04/06/2011 New York @ Philadelphia- V3, A bet
04/08/2011 Chicago @ Cleveland- V3, A betComment -
Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-01-11
- 7261
#6430Prime example of not out thinking the system. I still let my emotions get the best of me at times. I believe SA realized it's do or die time if they want to keep LAL out of that top spot in the West. Seems like SA and Bos age are hurting them down the strecth. These guys are spurtering this last month of the season.Comment -
cmdyrdsSBR Wise Guy
- 08-20-09
- 522
#6431does anyone have the records for version one over the past years? someone had posted the following so i believe they are accurate. thanks.
Version 3
2009/2010: 67-2
2008/2009: 59-1
2007/2008: 63-1
2006/2007: 63-3
2005/2006: 63-7
2004/2005: 64-1
Version 2
2009/2010: 28-0
2008/2009: 29-0
2007/2008: 27-0
2006/2007: 23-0
2005/2006: 32-1
2004/2005: 30-2Comment -
J.M. DiscipleSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-16-10
- 5154
#6432So i finished testing Boston Celetics for the Labby system.
This is my excel sheet and as you can see it would of made me 30 units this season.
This is Risking the amount of money and not betting to win.
If you go through my excel sheet this is extremely profitable and allows you to bet every single game. If this works the same for all other teams as it did for boston and as it should we are looking at nearly +900 units for the season. (30 teams x 30 units each) with a labby line starting at 5 - 5 - 5 - 5 and compounding after 3-4 losses. = +900 units. Or i guess 450 units. depending if you say a labby line with 5 -5 -5 -5 is a $10 unit or a $5 unit.
Non the less extremely profitable and it should work for all sports.
You all are very welcome. I do not know why i did not back test this soon. I guess its because i didn't do the labby method.
I will be making another deposit very shortly it seemsComment -
J.M. DiscipleSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-16-10
- 5154
#6433so the way i did my labby was like this:
5 5 5 5
5 5 5 5 10
5 5 5 5 10 15
5 5 5 5 10 15 20
5 5 5 5 10 15 20 25
*compound
20 20 20 20
20 20 20 20 40 and I never once had to bet more then $60 on the entire season using labby for boston.Comment -
dlunc3SBR Hall of Famer
- 10-31-09
- 9129
#6434
Do you know who the worst team ATS was this season? I would be very curious to see your results using the same method with that team... dont think the results would be quite as pretty.. i could be wrong tho...Comment -
Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-01-11
- 7261
#6435So i finished testing Boston Celetics for the Labby system.
This is my excel sheet and as you can see it would of made me 30 units this season.
This is Risking the amount of money and not betting to win.
If you go through my excel sheet this is extremely profitable and allows you to bet every single game. If this works the same for all other teams as it did for boston and as it should we are looking at nearly +900 units for the season. (30 teams x 30 units each) with a labby line starting at 5 - 5 - 5 - 5 and compounding after 3-4 losses. = +900 units. Or i guess 450 units. depending if you say a labby line with 5 -5 -5 -5 is a $10 unit or a $5 unit.
Non the less extremely profitable and it should work for all sports.
You all are very welcome. I do not know why i did not back test this soon. I guess its because i didn't do the labby method.
I will be making another deposit very shortly it seemsComment -
clamchowderSBR Sharp
- 02-26-11
- 471
#6436I have a dumb question. What do the numbers above mean in English?Comment -
J.M. DiscipleSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-16-10
- 5154
#6437I thought i attached the Excel file, but now i see that it is saying an invalid file. I am not sure of the reason, but i am working on fixing it. For now you just have to take my word for it until i get some of these results posted.
Boston Alone made 30 units. I have not tested any other team, but unders for most teams work about the same.Comment -
J.M. DiscipleSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-16-10
- 5154
#6438for some reason, i still can not get the excel file to attached. I tried to resave it and change the name, but no luck. If someone can tell me how to attach a file through a private message, then i can try send it to that person and they can try to post it for me. For now I can not seem to do it. Maybe its the format i have it saved under. Ill try some other options first.
For now just pretend you are testing a labby mathod on all the unders for the NBA. I picked unders instead of overs because the public usually bets on the over, so in theory unders hit more often and that will allow us to clear more lines. In fact about 30 units or equvilent to 15 lines every season for each team!
5 5 5 5
5 5 5 5 10
5 5 5 5 10 15
5 5 5 5 10 15 20
5 5 5 5 10 15 20 25
*compound
20 20 20 20
20 20 20 20 40
20 20 20 20 60***I never reached this point with Boston.
*$60 was my biggest bet the entire season and still made 15 unitsComment -
J.M. DiscipleSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-16-10
- 5154
#6439Alright i figured out how to attach it finally, these are the results for Boston. The Labby system i used is explained above, you can test the results for yourself if you think my data is incorrect.
At one point in the labby line i was using i got my # line down to a single # just "5" so i went ahead and created a new line. I don't see anything wrong with that. Another point i had it down to just one # again "20" but i went ahead and bet that size and cleared my line.
Someone with more expertise using labby may be able to make more money then i, but I am thinking of starting a Labby Thread for this system, which could get really confusing cause there are so many bets. I think I would have to make like 30 excel sheets in order to keep track of everything for each team.
If anyone has a better way of keeping track of 30 teams using labby lines please let me know cause I really do not feel like making 30 excel sheets.
Thank You
JMD :-DAttached FilesComment -
J.M. DiscipleSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-16-10
- 5154
#6440Here are my results for the Nets using labby. Once again made a profit. All though the last 3 games were all losses, so that cut into the profit some for this season so far, but non the less it still show a 7.5 unit profit.
This LABBY METHOD im using is amazing. Once it reaches a sum of $80 I just compound it. I like this Excel sheet a lot more then my Boston one. On this one I put what my Labby line looks like in the column next to the profit column.
I think this helps everyone. Looks like i'll be making a deposit tonight. I just need to figure out what type of bankroll i need to have 30 labby lines going or possible even more labby lines depending on how many sports im doing..
Any tips of Bankroll management for this would be appreciated. I think a $1,000 deposit should be fine even though im following 30 teams. with starting lines for each team as 5 5 5 5.... what do you all think?
I'm already convinced only off two teams of research, only cause i browsed through the other teams and didn't see any problems i would run into. Just don't have the exact data for those teams yet.Attached FilesComment
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