As a Clevelander it all does not feel real

suckerforparlays · 07-09-10, 05:18 AM

what happens in cleveland only happens in cleveland

sneak-a-peak · 07-09-10, 12:39 PM

Originally posted by suckerforparlays

what happens in cleveland only happens in cleveland

Very F in true!

jgiun1 · 07-09-10, 12:43 PM

Dude, that's a nice time line and post you have........instant classic thread here.

Deuce · 07-09-10, 12:44 PM

Bahahahah

Terrible city.

2daBank · 07-09-10, 12:56 PM

Lee traded for "some Wilson mitts and a hooker" ....

milwaukee mike · 07-09-10, 01:28 PM

wow that puts into perspective that although milwaukee sports history is bad (no professional championships since 1971 bucks, no college since marquette 1977) it pales in comparison to that heartbreak. and since milwaukee is still a green bay packers season ticket base they usually don't mention that pro champ stat.

here's my most painful moments, starting with childhood
1982 brewers have the best team in baseball yet still choke away the world series to st louis
2001 bucks have one of the 2 best teams in basketball yet lose after the refs cheat them at every turn (look it up - when even mild mannered guys like ray allen and george karl get their only career fine for claiming the series was rigged). even with the ridiculous calls and suspensions milwaukee comes within an eyelash of winning the eastern conf finals when glenn robinson's shot and ray allen's follow just miss
2008 brewers are stacked, and are down 2-1 with the eventual champ phillies in the playoffs. interim manager dale sveum for some stupid reason starts an old, tired jeff suppan for game 4 instead of the young stud gallardo. sabathia would've been the game 5 starter
2010 bucks are stacked and playing better than any team in the east down the stretch when bogut takes a horrible fall and is out for the season/playoffs

sneak-a-peak · 07-09-10, 01:34 PM

Originally posted by jgiun1

Dude, that's a nice time line and post you have........instant classic thread here.

Thanks!

Sometimes I just don't think people nationally really understand the sports misery that takes place here year after year!

Dirty Sanchez · 07-09-10, 01:46 PM

Just heard on a Cleveland Sports Station...they were calling Miami's Big 3 as the "Judas Cartel"...lmao

MC PICKS · 07-09-10, 04:05 PM

Cleveland is the biggest shitbox on the planet, you should move, just not to my town. Quit crying you f**k.

milwaukee mike · 07-09-10, 04:16 PM

come on now, there are much bigger shitboxes than cleveland on this planet.

niger, afghanistan, etc are much bigger shitboxes
average income in the congo is $200/year for christs sake

ProfaneReality · 07-09-10, 04:26 PM

Cleveland.... atleast we're not Detroit.

sneak-a-peak · 07-09-10, 08:12 PM

Originally posted by MC PICKS

Cleveland is the biggest shitbox on the planet, you should move, just not to my town. Quit crying you f**k.

NBA 35-37
NBA PLAYOFFS 11-12
CBB 80-81-4
NFL 2-3
NFL PROPS 0-2
HOT Tips +78.25 UNITS
-MMA 1-1
-SOCCER 3-2
MLB 128-139-1 -19.43 UNITS

Nice garbage records prick- I wouldnt even gamble if I sucked that bad

CaptJames05 · 07-09-10, 08:15 PM

Dude... that's a bummer, but was it not expected? Did y'all think he was just gonna stay there forever? He is a grown man... he can do what he wants as a free agent

milwaukee mike · 07-09-10, 08:22 PM

wow sneak-a-peek we are in the same boat unfortunately as detroit/kansas city/etc

once proud industrial cities that now are made fun of and criticized just because our asshole leaders shipped off all the factory jobs to china to line their pockets

simple question for those calling cleveland a bad city, if your family raised you in cleveland and made you proud of your hometown would you move just because some ignorant people called it a shitbox?

i for one am visiting both cleveland AND detroit very soon, detroit on my way to niagara falls and cleveland on the way back.
i very much look forward to visiting both cities again and going to a baseball game in each

Sledge187 · 07-09-10, 08:24 PM

In 1988 I can remember being a kid and watching the Oilers and Browns play in the last game of the season. The Browns would win that game and one week later they would rematch in the Wild Card Game. The Oilers pulled out a thriller in Clevland 24-23. I'll never forget one of the radio guys afterwards saying how Houston has bad luck but not as bad as Clevland and that was back in 1988, lol!

sneak-a-peak · 07-09-10, 08:42 PM

[quote=milwaukee mike;5426871]wow sneak-a-peek we are in the same boat unfortunately as detroit/kansas city/etc

once proud industrial cities that now are made fun of and criticized just because our asshole leaders shipped off all the factory jobs to china to line their pockets

Ya no kidding! Enjoy your trip bud

3PtShooter · 07-09-10, 08:51 PM

only way to save the cavs now is to hire charles barkley ,,,asst GM or something he might be the only one to bring players to cleveland

Mac4Lyfe · 07-09-10, 09:48 PM

1899: The Cleveland SpidersTwo Cleveland traditions started with this team: deceitful ownership and historic losing.
Frank DeHaas Robison had built one of the most successful National League franchises with his Cleveland Spiders, including winning the 1895 Temple Cup, a postseason series played between the first- and second-place teams. But after the 1898 season, Robison thought not enough Clevelanders showed up for games, so he sent all of the team’s best players, including Cy Young, to another NL team he had purchased that year: the St. Louis Browns, soon to become the Cardinals. Robison turned over the Spiders' ownership to brother Stanley, who announced he would run the team like a sideshow.
The Spiders finished 20-134, a worst-ever-by-a-mile .211 winning percentage that makes the 1962 New York Mets look like the 1998 New York Yankees. The Spiders scored 529 runs and gave up 1,252. The staff “ace,” Jim Hughey, was 4-30 with a 5.41 ERA. The Spiders lost 24 games in a row and had six streaks of 11 or more losses. The team was so bad, it stopped playing in Cleveland altogether, spending about the last two-thirds on the season on the road. The Spiders were no more after that season, when the NL dropped its four least profitable teams.
Two years later, Cleveland got the Indians when the American League formed

Mac4Lyfe · 07-09-10, 09:50 PM

My favorite...

1974: Ten-Cent Beer NightOn June 4, a promotion for a game at Municipal Stadium against Texas promised beer for only a dime, with no limit on purchases. And only 25,134 people showed up. That was triple the usual crowd, but still, you couldn’t fill a stadium with 10-cent beer?
Those who arrived caused enough damage, however. Fueled by cheap and plentiful suds, and a beanball battle and on-field fight between the Indians and Rangers, the fans rioted, and the game had to be forfeited. It was hard to finish the ninth inning, with fans pouring onto the field, stealing players’ equipment, mooning other fans, hurling bottles and throwing chairs.
Incredibly, the Indians planned to hold three more 10-cent beer nights, until AL president Lee MacPhail turned off the tap. Said MacPhail, the master of understatement: “There was no question that beer played a great part in the affair.”
The dime brews would be merely a promotional gaffe, except that it capped a half-decade of civic embarrassments that earned Cleveland its “Mistake by the Lake” nickname: the polluted Cuyahoga River catching fire, Mayor Ralph Perk setting his hair on fire with a blowtorch and Perk’s wife blowing off a state dinner with President Nixon because it was her bowling night.

Mac4Lyfe · 07-09-10, 09:51 PM

I use to have season tix to the Barons before they folded...

1978: The Barons foldAfter the former Oakland/California Golden Seals suffered two lousy seasons in Cleveland, the NHL folded the Barons, making them the last team in any major sports league to go out of business.
The team played in the largest building in the NHL -– 18,544-seat Richfield Coliseum -– yet its best crowd was 13,000. The Barons’ fall portended the roughest year ever for Cleveland’s nationwide image.
In June 1978, the NHL Board of Governors voted to fold the Barons into the Minnesota North Stars. Then on Dec. 15, Cleveland became the first city to default on its debts since the Great Depression, and Mayor Dennis Kucinich was widely believed to be political toast at age 31.
But this embarrassment has a happy ending, sort of.
The Gund brothers, who owned the Barons and took over the North Stars (before later buying the NBA’s Cavaliers), used its Cleveland “half” of the Minnesota franchise and resurrected it as the San Jose Sharks, circling the franchise back to the Bay Area. And Kucinich was proven wise whe he refused to sell the city-owned electric company to avoid default -- Clevelanders have saved at least $195 million on their bills as a result. Kucinich is now a veritable Congressman-for-life and perennial Presidential candidate.

Mac4Lyfe · 07-09-10, 09:53 PM

I also had to put up with this fool when I had season tix to Cav's games and use to drive out to the stix in Richfield every night.

1980-83: Ted Stepien eraIt is hard to think of a team owner, in any sport, who did as much damage in so little time as Ted Stepien did in his three years with the Cleveland Cavaliers.
The local advertising magnate inherited a team that had declined since its mid-1970s playoffs days, but was still respectable. Stepien changed that in a hurry. He lavished eye-popping salaries on marginal players, got rid of first-round draft picks, changed the team’s fight song to a polka, and proclaimed half his team should be white because “I myself can’t equate to black heroes.”
The 1980-81 Cavaliers fell to 28-54, and bottomed out the next season at 15-67 under four coaches, including Chuck Daly. The Cavaliers lost an NBA-record 24 straight games under Stepien.
Stepien's biggest legacy is the rule that teams can't trade first-round draft picks in consecutive years, because Stepien imploded his team in part by trading every first-round pick through 1986.
Thankfully for Cavs fans, Stepien sold to the Gund brothers for $20 million. But most of the deal was the assumption of Stepien’s debts. He only received $650,000 in cash.
Oh, and the NBA restored the team's first-round picks when the Gunds took over.

JW Cash · 07-09-10, 09:55 PM

Originally posted by sneak-a-peak

1987 The Drive- John Elway goes 98 yards with 4 minutes left to go and nuts all over the Browns in Cleveland Stadium

1988 The Fumble- Ernest ******* Byner *********fumbles**********

1989 The Shot- ya we all know about this one too

MJ
1990 The Browns get their ass whooped in Denver for the AFC championship game
1991 Indians set record for most MLB losses in one season (105 at the time)

1992 Cavs lose to da bulls in Eastern Conference finals

1993 Cavs are swept in 2nd round to da Bulls

1994 Indians are the hottest team in all of baseball heading into strike day

1995 Browns move to Baltimore thanks to Art Modell

and the Indians lose 1-0 in game 6 of the World series after Justice was served

1996 Indians finish with the BEST record in baseball only to lose to Baltimore in the 1st round

Also Albert Belle leaves
1997 2 FREAKIN OUTS AWAY FROM A CHAMPIONSHIP!!! But no go thanks to Jose Mesa and a ball going thru the legs of Tony Fernandez at 2nd base!

1998 Indians go up 2-1 on the yanks in the ALCS only to lose the series 4-2 and yanks go on to sweep the Padres for a ring

1999 After going ahead 2-0 in 1st round Indians lose to Boston in 5
2000 Indians do not win the central for the first time. Browns horrible, Cavs irrelevant also Manny Ramirez leaves.
2001 Indians lose to Seatle in best of 5 series after being up 2-1 and have their ace Colon on the hill for game 4.
2002 Indians trade Bartolo Colon in his prime and all all stars to try and rebuild. Jim Thome leaves
2003 In the Browns one and only playoff game since returning Kelly Holcomb throws for 429 yards in a loss. The Browns had a 24-7 lead in the 3rd in Pittsburgh only to blow it with the Stillers taking the lead with 54 seconds left in the game

Also Cavs have worst finish in Cavs history at 17-65

2004 Lebrons 1st year. Miss playoffs by 1 farkin game.

2005 Lebrons 2nd year Cavs fire coach Silas while being the 5th seed in the East only to fadeout in the end and miss playoffs by 1 farkin game again!
Also Indians are in control of 1st place with a week left in the season but then lose 6 of their final 7 games (all at home) and Ozzie Guillen does the infamous choke display directed towards the Indians after his team wins the division

2006 Cavs go up 3-2 on Eastern Champs Pistons only to become victim of Sheeds guarantee! and quotes "that the sun shines on a dogs ass half the time"

2007 Cavs are swept in a embarrassing NBA finals by the Spurs and... Indians Go down in the ACS to Boston after being up 3-2. Boston went on to sweep Rockies in the world series of course

2008 Cavs come within 52 seconds of beating the Celtics in game 7 of the 2nd round and after the fact knowledge proves that no one else after that point pushed the C's to 7 games in their own quest for a ring

Also C.C Sabathia is traded for 2 Louisville sluggers and a bucket of balls
2009 Cavs bounced in Eastern Conference finals to the Majic after having best record during regular season. Also Cliff Lee was traded for some Wilson mitts and a hooker.
2010 LEBRONS LAST GAME AS A CAV IN CLEVELAND WILL BE KNOWN AS "THE QUIT"

They dont call Cleveland " The Mistake By The Lake " for nothing.....

Mac4Lyfe · 07-09-10, 10:02 PM

I froze my ass off in this game...

The 1980 season is still fondly remembered by Browns fans. After going 3–3 in the first six games, the Browns won three straight games with fourth-quarter comebacks, and stopped a late comeback by the Baltimore Colts to win a fourth. The Browns won two more games in that fashion by the end of the season, and even lost a game to the Minnesota Vikings on the last play when a Hail Mary pass was tipped into the waiting hands of Ahmad Rashad. Sipe passed for 4,000 yards and 30 touchdowns with only 14 interceptions (enough for him to be named the NFL MVP), behind an offensive line that sent three members to the Pro Bowl: Doug Dieken, Tom DeLeone and Joe DeLamielleure. The "Kardiac Kids" name stuck. A fourth-quarter field goal by Don Cockroft in the final game against the Bengals helped the Browns capture the division with an 11–5 mark, with the Oakland Raiders their opponent in the team's first playoff game in eight years. However, a heartbreaking end to this dramatic season came in the closing seconds when Rutigliano called what became known as "Red Right 88" and had Sipe pass toward the end zone, only to watch Oakland's Mike Davis intercept the ball. The Raiders went on to win the Super Bowl, and "Red Right 88" has numbered among the list of Cleveland sports curses ever since.

lyon804 · 07-09-10, 10:14 PM

WOW! All of your collective pain is to much for words.

Thanks to Cleveland though my beloved Braves got there world series in 1995. The only team the Braves beat in the world series in the 90's and they went 5 times.

Don't know how much you guys remember that Cleveland team but I did not give the Braves a chance that year. The Indians lineup was equivalent to the '27 Yankees.

Tom Glavine stuck it to Cleveland. Just unhittable throwing that dying quail changeup on the outside corner.

WOW! You all have been trough it all is an understatement.

ProfaneReality · 07-09-10, 10:16 PM

98% of people who rip Cleveland have never been there... just sheep following a popular joke.

sneak-a-peak · 07-09-10, 10:35 PM

Originally posted by lyon804

WOW! All of your collective pain is to much for words.

Thanks to Cleveland though my beloved Braves got there world series in 1995. The only team the Braves beat in the world series in the 90's and they went 5 times.

Don't know how much you guys remember that Cleveland team but I did not give the Braves a chance that year. The Indians lineup was equivalent to the '27 Yankees.

Tom Glavine stuck it to Cleveland. Just unhittable throwing that dying quail changeup on the outside corner.

WOW! You all have been trough it all is an understatement.

Oh yeah I will never forget that lineup! It was a magical year at Jacobs field that year!

1. Kenny Loften
2. Omar Vizquel
3. Carlos Baerga
4. Albert Belle
5. Eddie Murray
6. Manny Ramirez
7. Jim Thome
8. Paul Sorrento
9. Sandy Alomar Jr.

lyon804 · 07-09-10, 10:54 PM

Originally posted by sneak-a-peak

Oh yeah I will never forget that lineup! It was a magical year at Jacobs field that year!

1. Kenny Loften
2. Omar Vizquel
3. Carlos Baerga
4. Albert Belle
5. Eddie Murray
6. Manny Ramirez
7. Jim Thome
8. Paul Sorrento
9. Sandy Alomar Jr.

^^^

Yea, that lineup. The Braves did not have 2 guys on there team that could compare to the meat of that order.

How sick is that lineup when you have 2 future HOF's batting 6th and 7th.

Seriously are you not shocked Atlanta beat them? I am a life long Braves fan but I thought we were in over our head.

lyon804 · 07-09-10, 10:58 PM

The Game 6 clincher the Braves ran this lineup out there.

Grissom cf4010Lemke 2b2010Jones 3b3020McGriff 1b4000Justice rf2121Klesko lf1000 Devereaux lf1000Lopez c3000Belliard ss4000Glavine p

Glavine thru 8in 1 hitter. and as you said.. Braves won 1-0 behind Justice solo HR.

Brock Landers · 07-09-10, 10:59 PM

all correct except for the part about them being the hottest team in 1994, that was the White Sox and Expos.

Mac4Lyfe · 07-09-10, 11:05 PM

We also had a killer pitching staff... Martinez, Nagy, Orel Hershiser, Chad Ogea, Jose FU Mesa, Tavares, Eric Plunk... Leave it to the Indians to give the title to Atlanta.

Mac4Lyfe · 07-09-10, 11:09 PM

Originally posted by sneak-a-peak

Oh yeah I will never forget that lineup! It was a magical year at Jacobs field that year!

1.
2.
3.
4. Albert Belle
5.
6. Manny Ramirez
7. Jim Thome
8.
9. .

The three of those guys have close to 1500 total homeruns. How sick is that.

sneak-a-peak · 07-09-10, 11:09 PM

Originally posted by Brock Landers

all correct except for the part about them being the hottest team in 1994, that was the White Sox and Expos.

True enough. Changed it to "one of the hottest teams"

sneak-a-peak · 07-09-10, 11:12 PM

Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

We also had a killer pitching staff... Martinez, Nagy, Orel Hershiser, Chad Ogea, Jose FU Mesa, Tavares, Eric Plunk... Leave it to the Indians to give the title to Atlanta.

Ya and like Lyon said it was the Braves only one in 5 tries in the 90's

lyon804 · 07-09-10, 11:16 PM

Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

We also had a killer pitching staff... Martinez, Nagy, Orel Hershiser, Chad Ogea, Jose FU Mesa, Tavares, Eric Plunk... Leave it to the Indians to give the title to Atlanta.

Yes I was proud Atlanta won. Braves looked as if they were never going to get one with always coming up short earlier in the decade... As bob costas said after the game... "The team of the 90's now has a championship"

Just curious becaue I was only 16 yrs old in 95 what was the series price of these 2 teams. I imagine Cleveland was at least -170 - -250 to win the series.

Mac, I know you were old enough to bet the series.. Did you bet any games?