If james loses this game , he isnt no jordan!!!!!

[lonegambler]

JORDAN WOULD TAKE THIS GAME FROM OPENING TIP TO THE FINAL BUZZER AND ASSURE HIS TEAM THAT LOSING ISNT A OPTION FOR THIS PIVOTAL GAME 3 OR EVEN SERIES FOR THAT MATTER.JORDAN WAS A MAN ON A MISSION THIS TIME OF YEAR WHEN IT GETS ALOT TOUGHER TO PUT TOGETHER WINS AND PLAY WITH THE SENSE OF URGENCY THAT U NEED TO HAVE EVERYNIGHT IN ORDER TO BE SUCCESSFUL THIS TIME OF YEAR , THATS WHY HE WILL ALWAYS BE KNOWN AS THE GREATEST BASKETBALL PLAYER THAT EVER LIVED.IF JAMES WANTS TO BE IN HIS COMPANY OR MENTIONED IN THE SAME SENTENCE WITH JORDAN NOW IS HIS TIME TO MAKE A STATEMENT AND PUT CAVS ON HIS SHOULDER AND TAKE THEM TO A PLACE JORDAN TOOK HIS TEAMS , AND TAUGHT THEM EVEN IF U ARE A AVERAGE PLAYER I WILL MAKE U A STAR ALA SCOTTIE PIPEN LUC LONGEELY HORACE GRANT AND THERE IS ALOT MORE TALENT FOR JAMES TO WORK WITH ON HIS TEAM WITH WEST VAJERO ZEKE MO WILLIAMS JAMISON. TIME TO BE A SUPERSTAR LEBRON AND TAKE THEM TO WHERE JORDAN TOOK A BUNCH OF AVERAGE PLAYERS. TONIGHT IS YOUR SIGNATURE GAME LEBRON THIS WILL TELL ALL GL

[lyon804]

Couldn't agree more. The book is still out on Lebron, but if Cavs fail to win this series I think a couple more chapters need to be written. No doubt a tough game tonite, but this is what it is all about. Cleveland is ripe to take this one tonite. After tonite I think we will know who the real Cavs/Lebron is. If they lay an egg tonite it will be hard to recover mentally after the poor play the last 3 games. I like Cleveland's chances better than Boston's if the Cavs bring it tonite.

[lakerboy]

He was never Jordan anyways. Two different players in two different eras.

[HoulihansTX]

"WHERE JORDAN TOOK A BUNCH OF AVERAGE PLAYERS."

That statement is full of fail.

Jordan had "No Tippen" Pippen( A Top 50 Talent), and every other player that was on his Championship teams were role players who did their job. Also Phil Jack was running the ship. Mike Brown is a very smart guy IMO, but has made some huge matchup mistakes in this series.

[lonegambler]

Where would pippen have been if it wasnt 4 jordan? Hmmm maybe working and charles oakleys car wash oh please tex u make me laugh quite often

[HoulihansTX]

Where would pippen have been if it wasnt 4 jordan? Hmmm maybe working and charles oakleys car wash oh please tex u make me laugh quite often

OK. I agree that Lebron has been treated like he has won 3 championship already, but to say Jordan won by himself is incorrect.

[lyon804]

"WHERE JORDAN TOOK A BUNCH OF AVERAGE PLAYERS."

That statement is full of fail.

Jordan had "No Tippen" Pippen( A Top 50 Talent), and every other player that was on his Championship teams were role players who did their job. Also Phil Jack was running the ship. Mike Brown is a very smart guy IMO, but has made some huge matchup mistakes in this series.

That has to be the biggest contradiction from you ever. Mike Brown is not that smart Houli. Have you heard his interviews? Barely can string a sentence together. Mike Brown is a video coordinator. That was his past life and he might be doing that again soon. Brown, was brought on to be Lebron's "father figure".


As LB said..Lebron is no Jordan. Two different players in 2 differnt era's but I think the point the guy was trying to make is to have the will and determination of Jordan and will not take no for an answer. Jordan, was a beast of a competitor. He expected to win and he expected the effort from his teammates. Lebron, doesn't command that same respect Jordan did. Sure, his teammates like him and he is a fine player. Unlike many in this forum I got to watch Jordan his entire career and he was the most driven athlete ever. He was obsessed with winning and it consumed him like nothing else... I think Lebron want's to win but he is not obsessed with it. I think it would be nice for it to happen in his mind but he won't lose any sleep or money over it if the Cavs do fail to win anything ever. He is still young but his window is closing and might go down is the greatest player to never win a championship.

[sweetjones55]

LeBron is a freak of nature. He is going to have a triple double tonight with 40+ points, watch.

[kobefanatic]

i just hope lebron goes berserk and help me cash my over

[VIAGRA!NOW!]

Never will be another Jordan. Nobody is winning 6 rings with the same team anytime soon.

[Goat Milk]

Never will be another Jordan. Nobody is winning 6 rings with the same team anytime soon.

um...Kobe will do it before he retires. I guarantee Kobe wins 5-6 rings.

No one ever said Lebron was better or as good as Jordan anyway. If Lebron retired today, he wouldn't even go down as a top 15 player all time. The only way Lebron will even be considered better than Kobe (career wise) if he can manage to win at least 3 rings.

[uanl]

um...Kobe will do it before he retires. I guarantee Kobe wins 5-6 rings.

No one ever said Lebron was better or as good as Jordan anyway. If Lebron retired today, he wouldn't even go down as a top 15 player all time. The only way Lebron will even be considered better than Kobe (career wise) if he can manage to win at least 3 rings.

his window is closing ..it'll be interesting to see if he does..i aint a laker fan ..but i personally hope he gets a ring or two more..

[Goat Milk]

his window is closing ..it'll be interesting to see if he does..i aint a laker fan ..but i personally hope he gets a ring or two more..

How is his window closing? He's still a top 3 player in the world, despite all the injuries he has, and the best closer in the league by far. All you need to do is continue to surround him with great, young players like Gasol and Bynum and the Lakers will be contenders for the next 5 years. Kobe's got another 2 years of domination in him (as in being a top 3 player), then he will take a back seat to Durant and another, still will never fall out of the top 8 players as long as he's in the league.

[uanl]

How is his window closing? He's still a top 3 player in the world, despite all the injuries he has, and the best closer in the league by far. All you need to do is continue to surround him with great, young players like Gasol and Bynum and the Lakers will be contenders for the next 5 years. Kobe's got another 2 years of domination in him (as in being a top 3 player), then he will take a back seat to Durant and another, still will never fall out of the top 8 players as long as he's in the league.

Kobe is a great player, one of the best all time, no doubt... but it seems like his injuries are coming closer and closer together..im just saying...oh and gasol isn't that young, hes about 30..

we'll see ...

[poochiecollins]

Mike Brown is a very smart guy IMO

Why do you say that? Serious question. I don't know much about him, except not being impressed in hearing him during an interview and maybe a couple other snips.

[poochiecollins]

OK. I agree that Lebron has been treated like he has won 3 championship already, but to say Jordan won by himself is incorrect.

It warms my heart when people realize that players don't win championships by themselves in team sports.

[poochiecollins]

his window is closing and might go down is the greatest player to never win a championship.

I would bet a lot of money against Lebron never winning a championship. He'll likely go down as one of the best players ever.

[poochiecollins]

Never will be another Jordan. Nobody is winning 6 rings with the same team anytime soon.

I believe a fair part of that is a change of rules? Championships aren't a good tool for player comparison.

[VIAGRA!NOW!]

Kobe somehow always manages to sneak in a Lebron thread.

GM, if the Mamba does not sneak the title away from Lebron this year, the nails start hammering on that chase for 6 with LA. He may get one as a role player with Atlanta or Chicago in 2013

Here's a few reasons why there will never be another MJ, esp not Kobe....Michael played against a different era of ALL-Stars (maybe the toughest 84-90???) effortlessly. 3-peated twice as the Go-To, where Mamba played second fiddle to the Diesel, and Chicago remains the only team in NBA history besides the Pistons to win a finals without a dominant offensive big-man (Bill Cartwright, Wennington, etc.). Finally, look at his playoff stats and find a comparison that equals them.... Wake me when you find that!

[poochiecollins]

um...Kobe will do it before he retires. I guarantee Kobe wins 5-6 rings.

His skills are fading already.

No one ever said Lebron was better or as good as Jordan anyway. If Lebron retired today, he wouldn't even go down as a top 15 player all time. The only way Lebron will even be considered better than Kobe (career wise) if he can manage to win at least 3 rings.

Lebron is better than Kobe easily. Compare their numbers the last few years and account for Kobe having a better supporting cast to help him look more efficient. Career stats are the most meaningless in the NBA relative to other team sports. The large numbers that people don't care to remember are one reason, the other that the sport's consistent enough where players mostly have the same stats every season year after year.

[Mikail]

LeBron is going to be one of the greats no doubt but I am tired of him getting more credit than he has earned so far. Guy doesn't even have a ring yet. He is getting the attention that should be on Kobe. If he takes the Cavs to the finals this year and handles business and gets it done then the league and people can start giving him the props he is already getting. It's gonna be an interesting game tonight for sure.

[Goat Milk]

He is still young but his window is closing and might go down is the greatest player to never win a championship.

lol are you serious bro? Lebron will win at least 2 rings. He's like 25 or 26, he's got another 10 years. Every single championship after this year is going to run through Lebron and Wade for at least 5 years.

Not Kobe, not Durant, not D will, not Dwight. It will run through Lebron and Wade.

By the way ViagraNow,

The combination of Kobe, Lebron, and D Wade in the league today is a better trio that any 3 during the Jordan era. These 3 players will go down as 3 of the top 15 players in NBA history when they retire. Jordan era had unbelievable superstars, but I've never in my life seen 3 ballers like Wade Lebron and Kobe in one era. Durant doesn't even come close. I was a little too young to watch the Iceman, but Durant reminds me of him from what I've seen studying film.

We're witnessing history right now with these 3 guys. People always used to say Kobe can't win without shaq. People will always say Shaq can't win without a top 3 player.

[VIAGRA!NOW!]

I believe a fair part of that is a change of rules? Championships aren't a good tool for player comparison.

Rule changes, free-agency, twitter, etc. I agree. But we're talking about THE greatest basketball player of all-time. That's why year after year, there is always a comparison of some young gun to the legend. And nobody has lived or will live up to the challenge. The rings are just the beginning of the end for most of these up-and-comers.

[Goat Milk]

His skills are fading already.

Lebron is better than Kobe easily.

Yeah right now. We're talking if they both retired today. Lebron doesn't even come close. BTW, Kobe is a better closer (clutch shooter) today than he has been in his long career. Kobe's skills this year in closing games is the better than I've ever seen from a player in one season. Kobe's skills are not fading, he's just getting a little slower.

The Skill will always be there, it's the athleticism that wears off. The guy is the best mid range shooter ever to play the game. Always will be a better shooter than Lebron, even when he is 35 he'll be the best mid range shooter in the league.

[jsmithj88]

LeBron is going to be one of the greats no doubt but I am tired of him getting more credit than he has earned so far. Guy doesn't even have a ring yet. He is getting the attention that should be on Kobe. If he takes the Cavs to the finals this year and handles business and gets it done then the league and people can start giving him the props he is already getting. It's gonna be an interesting game tonight for sure.

lebron deserves all the attention he is getting. he is the best player last year, this year, and prolly every year for the next 5
kobe is not the best player in the NBA anymore

[Mikail]

lebron deserves all the attention he is getting. he is the best player last year, this year, and prolly every year for the next 5
kobe is not the best player in the NBA anymore

I respectfully disagree. Jordan is hands down the greatest player to ever lace up and ball in the NBA and until LeBron can secure a championship I won't even consider him to be at Kobe's level.

[big0mar]

Didn't Jordan's team win a playoff series without him?

Do the Cavs win 20 games without Lebron?

[Goat Milk]

I respectfully disagree. Jordan is hands down the greatest player to ever lace up and ball in the NBA and until LeBron can secure a championship I won't even consider him to be at Kobe's level.

Philly's is right:

Let's just get this straight right now.
-Jordan is the best player to ever live
-If Kobe wins 6 rings, he can be argued as the best player ever to live
-If Lebron retired today, he would be lucky to go down as a top 25 player.
-Lebron needs to win 4+ rings to be put in the conversation for greatest player ever.
-Lebron stats aren't better than Jordans. Jordan averaged 37 one season (Kobe the only player that came close since then), and he averaged 33, 8 and 8- a little better than Lebron's MVP season this year.

[jgiun1]

just hearing Lebron those fake "we as a team"- "we do it together" makes me sick........HE HAS AN EGO THE SIZE OF OHIO.......I hope he ends up Dan Marino and no rings for the so called KING

[Lib208]

hes no jrdan, he will lose

[Mikail]

With all the "hooplah" about LeBron the fact still remains... he hasn't been able to close the deal.

[lyon804]

[quote=Goat Milk;4441105]lol are you serious bro? Lebron will win at least 2 rings. He's like 25 or 26, he's got another 10 years. Every single championship after this year is going to run through Lebron and Wade for at least 5 years.

Not Kobe, not Durant, not D will, not Dwight. It will run through Lebron and Wade.



What conclusive evidence do you have to make those assertions?? I mean no time is better than now for Lebron. He has a good enough team to win now. He might have 10 more years, but anything can happen in that length of time. Lebron, is not consumed with winning a championship like Kobe is or Jordan was. Lebron is happy being Lebron and he knows rather he wins or not he will be the wealthiest player to ever play the game when he walks away. As far as years left... Lebron will lose some of his skills as he gets older most likely. Father time does catch up to players. Kobe is a terrific player still, but he is not athletically what he once was. Lebron, has been in the league 7 years now and after some time if they don't win it this year you must start to consider it a trend.


As far Wade and Lebron goes.. The championships are a long way from running thru them as long as the Lakers are still the Lakers and the Majic are still the Majic. Alot can happen in 5 yrs, but I wouldn't make any bold predictions just yet especially on the Cavs end. I don't see the Cavs getting much better than they are now so if they are not to win it this year than when will they??


I think it is important that the Cavs win this year, but I don't see them getting past Boston, then Orlando, and then the Lakers the way they are playing.

[1UP]

He wouldn't be Jordan if he did win this game. Far from it. You'd never see Jordan putting on the injury theatrics for the camera. Kobe is as close to Jordan as we've gotten. LeBron is more like a Magic with estrogen pumping through his blood stream.

[big0mar]

just hearing Lebron those fake "we as a team"- "we do it together" makes me sick........HE HAS AN EGO THE SIZE OF OHIO.......I hope he ends up Dan Marino and no rings for the so called KING

I don't think having a large ego and reveling in camaraderie with your teammates are mutually exclusive.

[big0mar]

If anything, LeBron being his own man, and not trying be anyone else is rather refreshing. Especially after years of watching Kobe try his hardest to be Jordan 2.0