To the atlanta hawks gm.

[JUST A MAN]

You need to hire a new coach. This guy could not get anyone to listen to him in the huddle. During the last few minutes of the hawks game, this coach could not get a player to listen to any of his plays. WTF?

I watch Skiles and saw a real coach over there. Drawing up a play, team listening. The result? A Milwaukee win, with an Atlanta flop.

[pavyracer]

The NBA is trying hard to boost the ratings. Watch the Hawks win the next two games at the end so people can have something to watch until the next round.

[gman2114]

chokers - pure chokers

[JUST A MAN]

A good coach could have won that game for Atlanta. No doubt.

[Brock Landers]

Black coaches

Amazign Adrian Dantley won last night, looked like a deer in the headlights all game.

[villain1212]

Crazy game, epic choke at home. It is soley the coaches fault here when you get that big of a choke job. Bad timeout management etc. They should get someone new in there next year and then they have got to keep Joe Johnson and maybe they'll make it to the second round for a change.

[paul8888]

hawks choked for sure, but i think they can take one in milwaukee.

[Brock Landers]

hawks choked for sure, but i think they can take one in milwaukee.

i think there is very little chance of that.

[gmcarroll33]

Crazy game, epic choke at home. It is soley the coaches fault here when you get that big of a choke job. Bad timeout management etc. They should get someone new in there next year and then they have got to keep Joe Johnson and maybe they'll make it to the second round for a change.

For a change, as in like "just last year?" And yes Woodson and the whole team displayed the worst final 5 minutes of playoff basketball I've seen in a while

[HoulihansTX]

Black coaches

Nate MacMillian

Alvin Gentry

Both very good coaches. Out of timeouts their teams score, and both make adjustments as a game matures.

Besides dont hate on black coaches, when the list of bad Caucasian coaches could fill the Bible.

The real point that should be emphasized is that their are more bad/average coaches than there are good ones.

[tltaylor89]

Hawks shitted himself.

[ProfaneReality]

ATL will have a new coach next year....but it wont be by choice. Woodson will leave for bigger $

[lakerboy]

Nate MacMillian

Alvin Gentry

Both very good coaches. Out of timeouts their teams score, and both make adjustments as a game matures.

Besides dont hate on black coaches, when the list of bad Caucasian coaches could fill the Bible.

The real point that should be emphasized is that their are more bad/average coaches than there are good ones.

Come on houli of course there are more names of bad white coaches cause 99% of coaches have been white.

Black coaches are not good except the odd one. Woodson was clueless last night- the players werent even paying attn to him- did you not see that during the timeout- he had the look of a resigned man. Soon to be gone.

Eddie Jordan/Wes Unseld/Mike Brown/Don Chaney/MO Cheeks/Stu Jackson()/John Lucas/Sam Mitchell


the list goes on and on

The only good black coaches ever were KC Jones and Byron Scott.

[JUST A MAN]

ATL will have a new coach next year....but it wont be by choice. Woodson will leave for bigger $

The guy is the worst. Top 10 for bad coaches.

I still cannot get outta my head how the Atlanta players were just ignoring him at the end of the game. Bibby just walked away. Horford was worrying about the 3 pointer counting as a 3.

The team was a total disaster. Coaches are the 90 percent of the package.

[Law-Byrnes]

Come on houli of course there are more names of bad white coaches cause 99% of coaches have been white.

Black coaches are not good except the odd one. Woodson was clueless last night- the players werent even paying attn to him- did you not see that during the timeout- he had the look of a resigned man. Soon to be gone.

Eddie Jordan/Wes Unseld/Mike Brown/Don Chaney/MO Cheeks/Stu Jackson()/John Lucas/Sam Mitchell


the list goes on and on

The only good black coaches ever were KC Jones and Byron Scott.

Yeah LB, and those idiots ran him out of the NO.

[soli]

I still like the Hawks to win this series

[michalis]

yeah byron scott was awesome if they would have left him alone he would've built NO up

[HoulihansTX]

Come on houli of course there are more names of bad white coaches cause 99% of coaches have been white. Black coaches are not good except the odd one.

So is it b/c they are Black, or just the coincidence that the Black coaches have struggled.

The common thread between all of those coaches is that they were all former players.

So I guess the real complaint is that former players are not good coaches, but of course there are former players that have found success i.e Phil Jackson/ Scott Skiles/ Doc Rivers/


To say Black coaches struggle b/c they are Black is not fair since their is such a small sample size of them. The proportion of black players to black coaches is not balanced. Also to plainly say that black coaches are not fit, b/c of their skin color is bigoted, and racist. Hopefully comments like that are beneath the majority of poster at the forum.

[Unicorn7]

You need to hire a new coach. This guy could not get anyone to listen to him in the huddle. During the last few minutes of the hawks game, this coach could not get a player to listen to any of his plays. WTF?

I watch Skiles and saw a real coach over there. Drawing up a play, team listening. The result? A Milwaukee win, with an Atlanta flop.

agree..thats what makes george karl so great. too bad he is very ill

[stealthyburrito]

i saw that shit and thought to myself: get their goddamn attention there's 10 seconds left in the game.

even after he called them to the huddle horford and others were still looking at the replay tv. no control over his team

[jjgold]

Atl does not play team ball, whoever gets the ball just shoots it

Skiles might be the best coach in the NBA

[THEGREAT30]

So is it b/c they are Black, or just the coincidence that the Black coaches have struggled.

The common thread between all of those coaches is that they were all former players.

So I guess the real complaint is that former players are not good coaches, but of course there are former players that have found success i.e Phil Jackson/ Scott Skiles/ Doc Rivers/


To say Black coaches struggle b/c they are Black is not fair since their is such a small sample size of them. The proportion of black players to black coaches is not balanced. Also to plainly say that black coaches are not fit, b/c of their skin color is bigoted, and racist. Hopefully comments like that are beneath the majority of poster at the forum.

There not and never have been. I've been around on and off for 1.5 years now and someone makes a racist comment atleast once an hour and it usually is made by so-called veterans and respected posters. So that leads me to expect that's what is respected around here.

[lex_sf415]

and avery johnson

[lex_sf415]

Come on houli of course there are more names of bad white coaches cause 99% of coaches have been white.

Black coaches are not good except the odd one. Woodson was clueless last night- the players werent even paying attn to him- did you not see that during the timeout- he had the look of a resigned man. Soon to be gone.

Eddie Jordan/Wes Unseld/Mike Brown/Don Chaney/MO Cheeks/Stu Jackson()/John Lucas/Sam Mitchell


the list goes on and on

The only good black coaches ever were KC Jones and Byron Scott.

and avery johnson

[lyon804]

What is so sad is the PC police here on a gambling forum. Whenever it is mentioned that black coaches are useless some here get hot under the collar about it. What's the big deal? It is what it is? If somebody says the black man dominates the white man playing basketball then everybody goes, but on the flip side the white man dominates the black man coaching, but most don't want to admit it. It is true people. Black coahes are useless. Being a good coach requires special skills that are not found in a black man. Same as being a good basketball player requires special skills not found in a white man.


Black people as a whole lack leadership skills it takes to be winners. Not all of them, but 95% of all black coaches are losers in all sports. Same as in business are any other leadership role they fail big time. In my county that is ran by black people they have bankrupted my county and school systems. This was not a problem when I was growing up under white people. We had money for the schools systems and county. Now, everything is bankrupted and controlled by black people.


How many competent black people have you met in life??


They just don't make good managers of others and lack the mental aptitude to perform at a high level. Black people were not born to lead, but to follow.

If all that is racist than you count me in. I am calling it like it is. Sorry I forgot my PC card today. Some of you people would live a better life if you recognized things for what they really are.



Now, on the flip side I will tell you the black man is a way better athlete than the white man as a whole, but that doesn't bother the PC police here.


It is what it is people.. get your head out of your asses and recognize things for what they really are. If you want to win ball games employ black athletes and white coaches.

[THEGREAT30]

What is so sad is the PC police here on a gambling forum. Whenever it is mentioned that black coaches are useless some here get hot under the collar about it. What's the big deal? It is what it is? If somebody says the black man dominates the white man playing basketball then everybody goes, but on the flip side the white man dominates the black man coaching, but most don't want to admit it. It is true people. Black coahes are useless. Being a good coach requires special skills that are not found in a black man. Same as being a good basketball player requires special skills not found in a white man.


Black people as a whole lack leadership skills it takes to be winners. Not all of them, but 95% of all black coaches are losers in all sports. Same as in business are any other leadership role they fail big time. In my county that is ran by black people they have bankrupted my county and school systems. This was not a problem when I was growing up under white people. We had money for the schools systems and county. Now, everything is bankrupted and controlled by black people.


How many competent black people have you met in life??


They just don't make good managers of others and lack the mental aptitude to perform at a high level. Black people were not born to lead, but to follow.

If all that is racist than you count me in. I am calling it like it is. Sorry I forgot my PC card today. Some of you people would live a better life if you recognized things for what they really are.



Now, on the flip side I will tell you the black man is a way better athlete than the white man as a whole, but that doesn't bother the PC police here.


It is what it is people.. get your head out of your asses and recognize things for what they really are. If you want to win ball games employ black athletes and white coaches.

You been around less than 6 months, so your everytime encompasses a real small window. Lenny Wilkens held the record for most wins by NBA coach until recently. White people dont care about facts its just what ever ignorance they come with they wish for others to take it as truth. Why dont all white people just go back to where you came from before you stole from the Native Americans?

[lyon804]

You been around less than 6 months, so your everytime encompasses a real small window. Lenny Wilkens held the record for most wins by NBA coach until recently. White people dont care about facts its just what ever ignorance they come with they wish for others to take it as truth. Why dont all white people just go back to where you came from before you stole from the Native Americans?

I am sorry you have a problem with it. Now, you are wanting to get personal and racist. Me, I was stating facts and for the record I didn't say all of black coahes were useless.. Just 95% of them are poor coaches.Sorry, I used broad sweeping language to you, but for the most part black coaches are useless, same as white players are useless in the NBA. But that's not all true for the record. There are a couple good black coaches in the NBA and there is a couple good white basketball players in the NBA. So what's the problem? Why are you mad? Are you black? Do you feel inferior? Please don't tell me you are white and having this problem??


If you feel inferior here because your black keep in mind you allowed it to happend. Nobody, can make you feel anything without your consent. Whatever problems you are dealing with are your personal problems not mine.


You are the racist here...talking about me go back were I came from. I am were I come from. I am a white American. Now, I realize America was taken by my ancestors, but they had to take it..It wasn't given to them. They fought for it and took it. You might should try that sometime rather than having your check come in the mail by the government some time. If you want better out of life you have to go out and get it, but I am afraid that doesn't regiester with you. If you don't like America and the white man that took it from the Indians then get the ****k out of here. It isn't pretty, but sometimes we have to break a few eggs to make a omlet.


Your comments are from an inferior loser. keep in mind though you made yourself feel like that, it wasn't me.

[lakerboy]

What is so sad is the PC police here on a gambling forum. Whenever it is mentioned that black coaches are useless some here get hot under the collar about it. What's the big deal? It is what it is? If somebody says the black man dominates the white man playing basketball then everybody goes, but on the flip side the white man dominates the black man coaching, but most don't want to admit it. It is true people. Black coahes are useless. Being a good coach requires special skills that are not found in a black man. Same as being a good basketball player requires special skills not found in a white man.


Black people as a whole lack leadership skills it takes to be winners. Not all of them, but 95% of all black coaches are losers in all sports. Same as in business are any other leadership role they fail big time. In my county that is ran by black people they have bankrupted my county and school systems. This was not a problem when I was growing up under white people. We had money for the schools systems and county. Now, everything is bankrupted and controlled by black people.


How many competent black people have you met in life??


They just don't make good managers of others and lack the mental aptitude to perform at a high level. Black people were not born to lead, but to follow.

If all that is racist than you count me in. I am calling it like it is. Sorry I forgot my PC card today. Some of you people would live a better life if you recognized things for what they really are.



Now, on the flip side I will tell you the black man is a way better athlete than the white man as a whole, but that doesn't bother the PC police here.


It is what it is people.. get your head out of your asses and recognize things for what they really are. If you want to win ball games employ black athletes and white coaches.

Solid post Lyon- the pc police are what is ruining our society.

[stealthyburrito]

What is so sad is the PC police here on a gambling forum. Whenever it is mentioned that black coaches are useless some here get hot under the collar about it. What's the big deal? It is what it is? If somebody says the black man dominates the white man playing basketball then everybody goes, but on the flip side the white man dominates the black man coaching, but most don't want to admit it. It is true people. Black coahes are useless. Being a good coach requires special skills that are not found in a black man. Same as being a good basketball player requires special skills not found in a white man.


Black people as a whole lack leadership skills it takes to be winners. Not all of them, but 95% of all black coaches are losers in all sports. Same as in business are any other leadership role they fail big time. In my county that is ran by black people they have bankrupted my county and school systems. This was not a problem when I was growing up under white people. We had money for the schools systems and county. Now, everything is bankrupted and controlled by black people.


How many competent black people have you met in life??


They just don't make good managers of others and lack the mental aptitude to perform at a high level. Black people were not born to lead, but to follow.

If all that is racist than you count me in. I am calling it like it is. Sorry I forgot my PC card today. Some of you people would live a better life if you recognized things for what they really are.



Now, on the flip side I will tell you the black man is a way better athlete than the white man as a whole, but that doesn't bother the PC police here.


It is what it is people.. get your head out of your asses and recognize things for what they really are. If you want to win ball games employ black athletes and white coaches.

I liked reading your posts, until this crap spewed from you.

[HoulihansTX]

I glad you few people have outed yourselves
As racist. To say others are unfit humans b/c of skin color is the kind of talk that divides nations. It should be reserved for KKK meetings, and other uneducated/ ignorant means of communicating those types of feelings.


I'm glad the poeple makin these comments are not in authoritative positions. As minorities looking for opportunites would be subject to discrimination.

But at least the internet allows people the means to express their feeling. Though without putting a face behind the words. I'm sure you guys sit and actl ike you like someone like Paco, but he is a man of color, and would not be looked at as an equal. Though I'm sure you fellas would think of some kind of qualifier that would allow his acceptance into your world, that is ruined by others of color.


Needless to say I am very disappointed

[lyon804]

I glad you few people have outed yourselves
As racist. To say others are unfit humans b/c of skin color is the kind of talk that divides nations. It should be reserved for KKK meetings, and other uneducated/ ignorant means of communicating those types of feelings.


I'm glad the poeple makin these comments are not in authoritative positions. As minorities looking for opportunites would be subject to discrimination.

But at least the internet allows people the means to express their feeling. Though without putting a face behind the words. I'm sure you guys sit and actl ike you like someone like Paco, but he is a man of color, and would not be looked at as an equal. Though I'm sure you fellas would think of some kind of qualifier that would allow his acceptance into your world, that is ruined by others of color.


Needless to say I am very disappointed

It is what is. You chose to make it racist. I don't feel bad about it. I think you took it the wrong way. I know you are a young man, but you don't have to be so sensitive about everything.


Besides, I am in an authoratative posistion and own my business and have graduated college already...thank you.

[lyon804]

Houli,


I also want you to comment on my initial point. Rather than copping out and assuming I am a racist why don't you take the time to acknowledge a double standard here. You and everybody else have no problem with the black athlete getting all the praise and recognized as superior to the white man in athletics. I agree with this too. I am a white man, but if I was starting a new franchise tommorow I would be looking for black athletes and not trying to find any white blue chippers. I would also be looking for a white coach that I though fit my values and had the leadership and mental aptitude to be a winner for me.


What is so racist here? Why do people get so offended over this? It is facts. How long have you been alive? Have you learned anything in your short existence on Earth?

BTW, I am not racist. I have no hatred towards another race. Some of my best friends growing up playing ball were blacks. I know black people well and I know they are not coaches by rule... Ocassionally, there are exceptions to the rule. I think Tony Dungy was one of the greates coaches of all time black or white or otherwise he was a winner and had special leadership qualitiesd.

[big0mar]

Houli, I also want you to comment on my initial point. Rather than copping out and assuming I am a racist why don't you take the time to acknowledge a double standard here. You and everybody else have no problem with the black athlete getting all the praise and recognized as superior to the white man in athletics. I agree with this too. I am a white man, but if I was starting a new franchise tommorow I would be looking for black athletes and not trying to find any white blue chippers. I would also be looking for a white coach that I though fit my values and had the leadership and mental aptitude to be a winner for me. What is so racist here? Why do people get so offended over this? It is facts. How long have you been alive? Have you learned anything in your short existence on Earth? BTW, I am not racist. I have no hatred towards another race. Some of my best friends growing up playing ball were blacks. I know black people well and I know they are not coaches by rule... Ocassionally, there are exceptions to the rule. I think Tony Dungy was one of the greates coaches of all time black or white or otherwise he was a winner and had special leadership qualitiesd.

Its not racist, its just prejudice. If you had the power to act on your prejudices, you would be racist. But I don't believe you have the power to dictate coaching moves.

Regardless, unless you can show me some evidence to actually back up your statement that whites are somehow inherently better coaches than blacks, I'm not buying it.

There are thousands of white coaches out there, and really maybe only 10 or so in the NBA that are worth two shits. The fact is, most coaches suck, relatively speaking.

[jjgold]

Come on houli of course there are more names of bad white coaches cause 99% of coaches have been white.

Black coaches are not good except the odd one. Woodson was clueless last night- the players werent even paying attn to him- did you not see that during the timeout- he had the look of a resigned man. Soon to be gone.

Eddie Jordan/Wes Unseld/Mike Brown/Don Chaney/MO Cheeks/Stu Jackson()/John Lucas/Sam Mitchell


the list goes on and on

The only good black coaches ever were KC Jones and Byron Scott.

Both had real good players too

[mtneer1212]

and avery johnson

And Doc Rivers has just been horrible in Boston.


How quickly we forget how the Celtics were a wasteland. And I am a fat white guy.