A Ring for the King - Williams22 Playoff Picks

williams22 · 04-26-10, 10:46 AM

Originally posted by sweetjones55

Williams could you please send me the excel spreadsheet you use to track your plays? Thanks in advance. asummerlin5@yahoo.com

Sent.

williams22 · 04-26-10, 10:57 AM

Magic -4 - 4 units

Mafia · 04-26-10, 11:04 AM

hey williams whats your opinion on Howard for this game, is he going to change anything in his approach, because the books are still offering 18.5 points and 12.5 rebs, if he plays 25 min again there is no chance that he can cover any of these..

sweetjones55 · 04-26-10, 11:17 AM

Thanks a lot Williams. I might have a winner on a team total on my hands, check my thread out.

tealish · 04-26-10, 11:23 AM

Nice to see you on Orlando. Public play, but I don't care. I really thinkt hey close this out

williams22 · 04-26-10, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by Mafia

hey williams whats your opinion on Howard for this game, is he going to change anything in his approach, because the books are still offering 18.5 points and 12.5 rebs, if he plays 25 min again there is no chance that he can cover any of these..

Betting a prop on Howard is like flipping a coin, much better bets to be made. Even if he plays 25+ minutes there is no guarantee he covers those (check out his scoring this series).

Originally posted by tealish

Nice to see you on Orlando. Public play, but I don't care. I really thinkt hey close this out

I think so too. I'm hoping Van Gundy ripped in to Howard about his stupid fouls (he had two AFTER baskets were made last game) and convinced him to stay on the court longer. If Howard is on the court more than 25 minutes Charlotte has to play flawless basketball to cover.

sweetjones55 · 04-26-10, 11:30 AM

Sent you some points for the spreadsheet, it looks really good btw. Well done.

williams22 · 04-26-10, 11:32 AM

Originally posted by sweetjones55

Sent you some points for the spreadsheet, it looks really good btw. Well done.

Thank you SJ, glad to be of help

yomillionaire · 04-26-10, 12:44 PM

Hey williams, you emailed me a solid spreadsheet never hooked you up with points sry bud, just sent some your way!

williams22 · 04-26-10, 12:47 PM

Originally posted by yomillionaire

Hey williams, you emailed me a solid spreadsheet never hooked you up with points sry bud, just sent some your way!

Thank you yomillionaire

williams22 · 04-26-10, 12:47 PM

Bucks +2 - 3 units
Magic 1Q -1 - 2 units

Handsome · 04-26-10, 12:50 PM

hi WIlliam what did you say about today pics?

lyon804 · 04-26-10, 12:57 PM

Oh yes, oh yes... I believe your king has sent in his ring size to the organization williams. I do not think they will be denied this year if Lebron has to play in the paint and guard Howard. Orlando is a funny team. They are good and play some D but they are so reliant on the 3. If majic are not shooting the 3's well it could be hard for them to beat Cleveland. Shaq should do the trick though. Gameplan should be to feed shaq the ball early and often and get Howard into his usual foul trouble. Cleveland didn't have that luxury last year and this was the main reason Shaq was brought in. Once Howard is out then Cavs can roam the perimiter and run Majic off the 3's. Sounds good in theory doesn't it?

williams22 · 04-26-10, 01:03 PM

Originally posted by lyon804

Oh yes, oh yes... I believe your king has sent in his ring size to the organization williams. I do not think they will be denied this year if Lebron has to play in the paint and guard Howard. Orlando is a funny team. They are good and play some D but they are so reliant on the 3. If majic are not shooting the 3's well it could be hard for them to beat Cleveland. Shaq should do the trick though. Gameplan should be to feed shaq the ball early and often and get Howard into his usual foul trouble. Cleveland didn't have that luxury last year and this was the main reason Shaq was brought in. Once Howard is out then Cavs can roam the perimiter and run Majic off the 3's. Sounds good in theory doesn't it?

My only fear is that we may make Jameer look like the best PG in the league.

First the Cavs have to battle through a tough series with Boston. Those games are gonna be physical and ugly...I can't wait

lyon804 · 04-26-10, 01:09 PM

Originally posted by williams22

My only fear is that we may make Jameer look like the best PG in the league.

First the Cavs have to battle through a tough series with Boston. Those games are gonna be physical and ugly...I can't wait

That is a good point. If mo is on them you can expect that. Unfortunately Lebron can't guard all the weapons of the Majic. Isn't that Jamari Moon a good perimiter defender? I don't get to watch cleveland often and I know he doesn't play much but I heard he could play defense. I aslo heard Delonte West was pretty good also. What about Anthony Parker? He has a nice size to him can he play defense?

williams22 · 04-26-10, 01:18 PM

Originally posted by lyon804

That is a good point. If mo is on them you can expect that. Unfortunately Lebron can't guard all the weapons of the Majic. Isn't that Jamari Moon a good perimiter defender? I don't get to watch cleveland often and I know he doesn't play much but I heard he could play defense. I aslo heard Delonte West was pretty good also. What about Anthony Parker? He has a nice size to him can he play defense?

Yeah, I think if Jameer is on a roll you will see a lot of Delonte on him with Lebron playing PG on the offensive side. Jamario and Parker are also very good perimeter defenders. The problem comes when the Magic start running a high pick and roll with Nelson and Howard because that causes all sorts of rotation issues.

lyon804 · 04-26-10, 02:17 PM

Originally posted by williams22

Yeah, I think if Jameer is on a roll you will see a lot of Delonte on him with Lebron playing PG on the offensive side. Jamario and Parker are also very good perimeter defenders. The problem comes when the Magic start running a high pick and roll with Nelson and Howard because that causes all sorts of rotation issues.

I ain't gonna lie I don't know ball like you and some others here, but for me I would have to take away something and I would pick my poison and see what happens. Too me Cleveland's biggest threat is if Majic goes nuts on the perimiter. They have many people I know that can shoot the 3 and if they all heat up it's a nightmare. Do you think you just let Howard get his and lock down the perimiter game best you can? I mean Cleveland is deep and could just let Howard earn it at the line. How much can Howard really score. I personally think if it was me I just let Howard go and by that I mean no double.

tealish · 04-26-10, 02:20 PM

Originally posted by lyon804

Do you think you just let Howard get his and lock down the perimiter game best you can? I mean Cleveland is deep and could just let Howard earn it at the line. How much can Howard really score. I personally think if it was me I just let Howard go and by that I mean no double.

This is Charlotte's best bet. I'll live with having Dwight beat me with unrefined post-moves all day.

Goat Milk · 04-26-10, 02:24 PM

Originally posted by williams22

Bucks +2 - 3 units
Magic 1Q -1 - 2 units

Will,

Didn't Jameer drop like 19 in that first quarter and shoot amazing and the Magic still only won that 1q by 2? What's your reasoning for taking the road team in the first quarter tonight?

williams22 · 04-26-10, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by lyon804

I ain't gonna lie I don't know ball like you and some others here, but for me I would have to take away something and I would pick my poison and see what happens. Too me Cleveland's biggest threat is if Majic goes nuts on the perimiter. They have many people I know that can shoot the 3 and if they all heat up it's a nightmare. Do you think you just let Howard get his and lock down the perimiter game best you can? I mean Cleveland is deep and could just let Howard earn it at the line. How much can Howard really score. I personally think if it was me I just let Howard go and by that I mean no double.

I definitely agree. The issue though is if they use Jameer and Dwight in a pick and roll. If Jameer is cold, you can go under the screen and prevent the penetration. However, is Jameer hits a few jumpers you need to chase him around the screen, which means the guy guarding the screener needs to hedge. This leaves Dwight to roll to the hoop for his usual catch and dunk. The only way to stop it is to rotate off of the perimeter guys, and even then your only resort is to foul as a 6'6" guy isn't going to stop Dwight. That's the scariest possibility.

If the Magic just try to pound the ball down low to Dwight and let him go 1-on-1 with Shaq I'll be happy as can be. His post moves are awful for a guy with his athleticism and his touch around the rimis poor as well.

williams22 · 04-26-10, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

Will,

Didn't Jameer drop like 19 in that first quarter and shoot amazing and the Magic still only won that 1q by 2? What's your reasoning for taking the road team in the first quarter tonight?

Yes, but everyone else started off ice cold. Dwight was also in foul trouble very early. If he is in the game Charlotte really struggles to score the ball. Also, now that this isn't a pressure game I expect Vince to have a better performance

lyon804 · 04-26-10, 02:41 PM

Originally posted by williams22

I definitely agree. The issue though is if they use Jameer and Dwight in a pick and roll. If Jameer is cold, you can go under the screen and prevent the penetration. However, is Jameer hits a few jumpers you need to chase him around the screen, which means the guy guarding the screener needs to hedge. This leaves Dwight to roll to the hoop for his usual catch and dunk. The only way to stop it is to rotate off of the perimeter guys, and even then your only resort is to foul as a 6'6" guy isn't going to stop Dwight. That's the scariest possibility.

If the Magic just try to pound the ball down low to Dwight and let him go 1-on-1 with Shaq I'll be happy as can be. His post moves are awful for a guy with his athleticism and his touch around the rimis poor as well.

Sounds about right to me. Howard is an awesome physical specimen but even I can tell he doesn't have much around the basket. He is still learning how to play the game, but you can learn on the job when you have his physical gifts. What a monster the guy is athletically. But, for real I can see what you are saying about post moves. You would have thought Ewing would have taught him more by now. Your right Howards best offense is a catch and dunk. That is what he is known for. He has no turn around jumper or up and under move. Really no moves at all. Just power. Has Howard ever taken a 12 ft jumper in the league?

Goat Milk · 04-26-10, 02:43 PM

yeah sometimes he takes them tries to bank them when hes a little more to the left or right of the elbow area but the chipmunk snaps at him when he does

lyon804 · 04-26-10, 02:46 PM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

yeah sometimes he takes them tries to bank them when hes a little more to the left or right of the elbow area but the chipmunk snaps at him when he does

You are referring to Van Dumbdy right??

Goat Milk · 04-26-10, 06:17 PM

Will,

I know your a quarter guy- what do you think about the Suns first quarter tonight? Roy will still come off the bench, so the suns should be able to control Miller and Aldrich offensively to begin with because they have a simplistic offensive formula when Roy is not in the game. And their offense should do what it needs to. I see Frye coming in around the 4 or 5 minute mark and knocking down a couple of threes before the 1q ends.

williams22 · 04-26-10, 07:56 PM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

Will,

I know your a quarter guy- what do you think about the Suns first quarter tonight? Roy will still come off the bench, so the suns should be able to control Miller and Aldrich offensively to begin with because they have a simplistic offensive formula when Roy is not in the game. And their offense should do what it needs to. I see Frye coming in around the 4 or 5 minute mark and knocking down a couple of threes before the 1q ends.

I agree. I don't like the Suns line for the game, but at -2 I love the first quarter.

Suns 1Q -2 - 4 units

Goat Milk · 04-26-10, 09:49 PM

Originally posted by williams22

I agree. I don't like the Suns line for the game, but at -2 I love the first quarter.

Suns 1Q -2 - 4 units

waited on it its at -2.5 -120 juice fvck that shoulda hopped on earlier

williams22 · 04-26-10, 09:51 PM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

waited on it its at -2.5 -120 juice fvck that shoulda hopped on earlier

I still think they cover, but that's pricey, especially when the game spread is only 7.5.

I'm thinking there will be in-game value on Portland about halfway through the first quarter.

williams22 · 04-26-10, 09:54 PM

Bet you are happy you missed it now Goat. Wow wtf Phoenix.

Goat Milk · 04-26-10, 10:25 PM

Originally posted by williams22

Bet you are happy you missed it now Goat. Wow wtf Phoenix.

lol yeah phx shit on them in the last 6 min and got shit on in the first 6. I fixed that error thx

williams22 · 04-26-10, 11:04 PM

Suns 2H -1 - 5 units
Portland is done.

b3diddy · 04-27-10, 12:25 AM

Originally posted by williams22

Suns 2H -1 - 5 units Portland is done.

great 2h call williams!! another good day for you

williams22 · 04-27-10, 12:28 AM

Another profitable day

Current Playoff Record:
32-17-2 +39.9 units

williams22 · 04-27-10, 12:29 AM

Originally posted by b3diddy

great 2h call williams!! another good day for you

Thank you b3diddy

Portland looked dead going into half, that was a fairly easy call.

lakerboy · 04-27-10, 12:40 AM

Williams

The laker line is looking this way to me. The line is high because the books arent interested in getting hit with sharp money. IF they opened at anything lower than 5 they would get pounded by laker hitters. I really feel either the lakers win BIG or okc wins su. I dont see a really close game. The Lakers did this shit last year in the rockets series and won big each time after losing big in houston. I dont see the line moving much.