A Ring for the King - Williams22 Playoff Picks

[tealish]

that team is garbage without Amare, he is there go to guy- not nash. You're overrating Nash big time and not giving Amare his credit. He's there best player by far.

You think Amare is more important to the Suns than Steve Nash? I disagreed with the guy's back to back MVPs, but you can't be serious with that.

[williams22]

You think Amare is more important to the Suns than Steve Nash? I disagreed with the guy's back to back MVPs, but you can't be serious with that.

I agree. If you put Amare on a team where the offensive had to run through him (like Bosh has to do) he wouldn't be nearly as successful.

[Goat Milk]

You think Amare is more important to the Suns than Steve Nash? I disagreed with the guy's back to back MVPs, but you can't be serious with that.

He's more important because Nash needs a Dynamic PF like Amare that can attack the rim and hit the jump shot off the pick and roll. Amare doesn't need Nash because he knows how to play iso ball, whereas Nash cannot. Nash will always just be a great pg that had 2 of the greatest (when all is said and done) PFs on his teams.

PHX wouldn't make the playoffs without Amare, and they wouldn't make it without Nash. 3 years ago Nash was much more important than Amare, but if you watch the suns this year, Amare is their go to guy in all clutch situations (not involving a 3 point shot), and it takes 2-3 guys in the paint to stop him.

[tealish]

Phoenix's entire offense is structured around Nash's playmaking abilities...He gets the ball to Amare in places where he can take 1-2 steps and be at the rim to finish. Finishing at the basket and a spot up jumper are what Amare's good at. He has no offensive moves in the low block, so taking away a guard like Nash who can find all those lanes, is taking away a huge chunk of Amare's offense. As explosive as he is, he can't create much on his own.
The guy is also non-existent on defense. How can you even attempt to argue that he will be one of the greatest PF's ever.... Offense alone, he likely will never crack the top 5.

[Goat Milk]

Phoenix's entire offense is structured around Nash's playmaking abilities...He gets the ball to Amare in places where he can take 1-2 steps and be at the rim to finish. Finishing at the basket and a spot up jumper are what Amare's good at. He has no offensive moves in the low block, so taking away a guard like Nash who can find all those lanes, is taking away a huge chunk of Amare's offense. As explosive as he is, he can't create much on his own.
The guy is also non-existent on defense. How can you even attempt to argue that he will be one of the greatest PF's ever.... Offense alone, he likely will never crack the top 5.

The guy is still young, he came from high school and his defense is only getting better. Watch Amare play this year 50% of his plays are iso plays man. He gets the ball at the elbow, faces up, and either knocks down a jumper or drive it to the rim and draws the foul every time or dunks on people. The Suns are using Amare so much more in iso this year Nash is not dominating the ball (although he still does) as much as in years past.

I agree about Nash he's amazing but think about this: If Nash didn't have a versatile PF like amare to work with in the pick n roll, wouldn't players be able to commit to Nash more and he'd be easier to stop because the guy setting the pick wouldn't really be a liability?

[jsmithj88]

haha, williams, another win at the buzzer
i see a pattern ..............

[williams22]

haha, williams, another win at the buzzer
i see a pattern ..............

Haha if it's working I won't question it!

[tealish]

The guy is still young, he came from high school and his defense is only getting better. Watch Amare play this year 50% of his plays are iso plays man. He gets the ball at the elbow, faces up, and either knocks down a jumper or drive it to the rim and draws the foul every time or dunks on people. The Suns are using Amare so much more in iso this year Nash is not dominating the ball (although he still does) as much as in years past. I agree about Nash he's amazing but think about this: If Nash didn't have a versatile PF like amare to work with in the pick n roll, wouldn't players be able to commit to Nash more and he'd be easier to stop because the guy setting the pick wouldn't really be a liability?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Amare is a piece of sh*t. The Suns may go to Amare more this year than in years past, but they are still fundamentally a run and gun team that relies on a guard like Nash for the pace that he's able to set. I don't have the #'s in front of me, but I'll be willing to bet that an overwhelming majority of the Suns' clutch points (last 2 minutes in a close game, lets say) are either assisted by Nash, or scored by Nash vs an unassisted Amare iso.

[williams22]

In-Game:
Spurs +2 - 2 units

[SwisherSweet420]

can someone tell me if sportsbook does in game

[williams22]

can someone tell me if sportsbook does in game

Not sure, I mainly use 5Dimes.

[shawnkang]

lol at goatmilk

you were reaching when you said tony parker is better than derrik rose and that SA would never trade parker for rose.

and now this. your delusional if you think amare is more important than nash. what did amare do before nash got there?

also chris bosh is better than amare no question and to say that nash played with the 2 greatest power forwards (notwizki and amare? lol) of all time is just insane. Have you ever heard of Tim Duncan and Karl Malone?

i cant respect your opions on basketball after that smh

[williams22]

Denver 1Q +1 - 3 units

[Goat Milk]

lol at goatmilk

you were reaching when you said tony parker is better than derrik rose and that SA would never trade parker for rose.

and now this. your delusional if you think amare is more important than nash. what did amare do before nash got there?

also chris bosh is better than amare no question and to say that nash played with the 2 greatest power forwards (notwizki and amare? lol) of all time is just insane. Have you ever heard of Tim Duncan and Karl Malone?

i cant respect your opions on basketball after that smh

I said after they retire. When Dirk retires, he'll go down as a much better player than Malone buddy. Dirk is the greatest big man shooter in the history of the nba. Only a NBA newbie would say derrick rose is better than Parker.

I didn't ask for your respect, you're no body.

[SwisherSweet420]

took spurs -4.5. Went against line movement and went with the gut that spurs need to score.

[shawnkang]

I said after they retire. When Dirk retires, he'll go down as a much better player than Malone buddy. Dirk is the greatest big man shooter in the history of the nba. Only a NBA newbie would say derrick rose is better than Parker.

I didn't ask for your respect, you're no body.

your right im a no body and your an nba expert

im curious to know where tim duncan is on your greatest power forwards list since when its all set and done dirk and amare are 1 and 2.

let me know nba expert

[Goat Milk]

your right im a no body and your an nba expert

im curious to know where tim duncan is on your greatest power forwards list since when its all set and done dirk and amare are 1 and 2.

let me know nba expert

Duncan is the greatest PF of all time. You might want to re-read that statement. I said 2 of the greatest, not THE 2 greatest

[tealish]

When Dirk retires, he'll go down as a much better player than Malone buddy.

You've gone too far.

[shawnkang]

Duncan is the greatest PF of all time. You might want to re-read that statement. I said 2 of the greatest, not THE 2 greatest

i went back and checked. my mistake about that goatmilk

dirk will go down as one of the top 10 PF's, not sure about amare though

[Goat Milk]

You've gone too far.

much better.

[tealish]

much better.

I can't believe I'm entertaining this, but here goes. First, though, I'm going to say I have mad love for the Big German. He's the best PF in the game right now and it's not that close. This is nothing against him, but merely in response to your ridiculous statement.
Malone 37000 points, 2nd all-time. Dirk 21,1000
Malone 25 and 10 for his career, including an insane 6 year stretch of 27+ and 11+ (Dirk's BEST PPG year of his career is lower than Malone's WORST in this 6 year span)
Are we really having this conversation?
Malone over 50fg% 12 times in his career, including 7 straight seasons. Dirk's done it once.
Malone 10+ boards in 9 consecutive years. Dirk NOT ONCE. Bagel.
Are we still discussing this...............

[tealish]

Best shooting PF does not equate Best PF. Let's keep that straight, Goat....

[shawnkang]

I can't believe I'm entertaining this, but here goes. First, though, I'm going to say I have mad love for the Big German. He's the best PF in the game right now and it's not that close. This is nothing against him, but merely in response to your ridiculous statement.
Malone 37000 points, 2nd all-time. Dirk 21,1000
Malone 25 and 10 for his career, including an insane 6 year stretch of 27+ and 11+ (Dirk's BEST PPG year of his career is lower than Malone's WORST in this 6 year span)
Are we really having this conversation?
Malone over 50fg% 12 times in his career, including 7 straight seasons. Dirk's done it once.
Malone 10+ boards in 9 consecutive years. Dirk NOT ONCE. Bagel.
Are we still discussing this...............

no discussion. it was a ludicrous statement by goat milk

[tealish]

no discussion. it was a ludicrous statement by goat milk

I'm surprised though. Aside from this, Goat knows basketball at least from the little I've seen. But this is definitely SMH material. Opinions are never wrong, because they're just that -- opinions....but this one is.

[williams22]

Nuggets 3Q -1/2 - 3 units
C'mon Denver show some life!

[Goat Milk]

man we got rocked with the nuggets tonight fvck them

[lyon804]

Williams, it looks like you spent some money on Denver too. Well, good thing is they are done and can get ready for a nice pool party at Adrain Dantleys house smoking some weed and drinking some O/E

[tealish]

Nuggets 3Q -1/2 - 3 units C'mon Denver show some life!

Damn tough break, Williams. Wrong quarter to show some life. Of course Melo & Co picks it up a bit when it's too little too late.

[zogdog]

Will Bocats cover tomorrow? They've been in all the games at the end, surely they can pull out a win or at least keep it within 4...

[Goat Milk]

Damn tough break, Williams. Wrong quarter to show some life. Of course Melo & Co picks it up a bit when it's too little too late.

lets put the malone dirk discussion on hold for a bit

This guy Paco is throwin one cheap shot after another and making up all these statements about what I supposedly "said"
fuel the fire pac. its all good

[tealish]

lets put the malone dirk discussion on hold for a bit This guy Paco is throwin one cheap shot after another and making up all these statements about what I supposedly "said" fuel the fire pac. its all good

lol no worries

[sweetjones55]

Williams could you please send me the excel spreadsheet you use to track your plays? Thanks in advance. asummerlin5@yahoo.com

[tealish]

Williams, if you look at the trash talk that is going on right now, you'll realize even more, how down right HILARIOUS it was for you to get an infraction the way you did

[williams22]

Williams, if you look at the trash talk that is going on right now, you'll realize even more, how down right HILARIOUS it was for you to get an infraction the way you did

Couldn't agree more. Luckily CrazyLou has his head on his shoulders the right way and reversed it for me.

[sweetjones55]

Hook me up buddy, Williams could you please send me the excel spreadsheet you use to track your plays? Thanks in advance. asummerlin5@yahoo.com